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Friday, June 02, 2023

Aaron Boone’s Rate of Ejections Is Embarrassing ... And Historically Significant

How foolish does Boone look by getting thrown out so often? Boone has been ejected more times in his six years (30) than Dusty Baker has in his 26 years managing (25). He has been ejected more in the past 1​​⅓ seasons (13) than Dave Roberts has in his nine seasons (10). His place on this list says it all:

Boone gets thrown out more often than anybody in the past 62 years. It is crazy that Boone is getting thrown out more often than Weaver did. The Earl of Baltimore feuded so often with umpires he was thrown out of both games of a doubleheader—three times. He was the first manager thrown out of a World Series game. His feud with umpire Ron Luciano was so legendary the AL stopped scheduling Luciano to work Orioles games. When an umpire once offered to show Weaver his rule book to explain a call, Weaver shot back, “That’s no good. I can’t read Braille.”

And yet Boone—without the need to argue any call on the bases—gets thrown out more often than Weaver.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 02, 2023 at 06:23 PM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. tell me when i'm telling 57i66135 Posted: June 02, 2023 at 06:28 PM (#6131313)
eh. let him cook.
   2. The Duke Posted: June 02, 2023 at 10:18 PM (#6131354)
Definitely not a good look. I don't really get the animated screaming matches. LaRussa generally just want out and talked quietly except for the big meaningful challenges
   3. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: June 03, 2023 at 06:50 AM (#6131371)
Apparently umpires refer to him as Karen Boone.
   4. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 03, 2023 at 09:40 AM (#6131374)
99 times out of 100 he's complaining about visibly bad calls, but I'd feel more sympathy for him if he'd drop his opposition to robo-umps.
   5. Nasty Nate Posted: June 03, 2023 at 11:50 AM (#6131389)
[Earl Weaver] was the first manager thrown out of a World Series game.

1969 World Series Game 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0J170GnvF8U

Although I'm not sure he was the first.
   6. SoSH U at work Posted: June 03, 2023 at 01:59 PM (#6131391)
Although I'm not sure he was the first.


He wasn't. Charlie Grimm was ejected in Game 3 of the 1935 World Series.
   7. Rob_Wood Posted: June 03, 2023 at 02:36 PM (#6131395)
I am following in the exalted footsteps of Dave Pappas and David Vincent in searching for/managing the Retrosheet ejections database.

As far as I can tell, Detroit Tigers manager Hughie Jennings was the first manager to be ejected in a World Series game (Game Two October 9, 1907 vs Chicago Cubs).

   8. The Honorable Ardo Posted: June 03, 2023 at 02:47 PM (#6131398)
I don't mind Boone getting ejected so long as he lives up to Don Zimmer's standard.
   9. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 03, 2023 at 03:04 PM (#6131401)
Jerry Seinfeld said that Zimmer was the inspiration for Koko the Monkey.
   10. shoelesjoe Posted: June 03, 2023 at 05:06 PM (#6131413)
99 times out of 100 he's complaining about visibly bad calls


Which is true of every manager who's ever argued with an umpire. The difference is that Boone seems to argue every single time close calls go against the Yankees. The Orioles had a three game series in NY couple weeks ago, and in game one the home plate ump missed a significant number of ball/strike calls, most of which favored NY and went against Baltimore. You can see the umpire scorecard for that game here:

https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1661380079182663682

Did Orioles' manager Brandon Hyde jump out and get in the umpire David Rackley's face about it? Of course not. Hyde (like most managers) realizes that sometimes umpires have bad days, and over a season these calls tend to even out. BTW -- Boone's team won that game by one run.

Skip forward two days and the Orioles are up in the top of the first inning. Home plate ump misses two "on the black" strike calls to Gunnar Henderson. Camera shows Boone in the dugout and you can tell he's not going to make it to the third inning. This is literally 20 pitches into the game and the Orioles announcers aren't talking about if Boone is going to get tossed, but when. You can see that umpire scorecard here:

https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1662104651120926720

At some point this kind of behavior goes from a manager trying to support his players to the manager trying to intimidate the umpiring crew. Especially when its happening in Yankee home games where the crowd can be somewhat more motivated than in other parks. I'd love to see a breakdown of Boone's ejection history during home games vs away games. My guess is he's been a lot more likely to get the heave-ho during home games.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: June 03, 2023 at 05:33 PM (#6131419)
note that the WFAN mouth-breathing radio call-in crowd has been demanding the pelts of both Boone and GM Cashman for a couple of years now. that pennant drought since 2009 - their only pennant in two decades - is not sitting well, at all.

some overlap in regulars at home games, and he probably gains a little 'cred' with that crew.
owner Hank doesn't care, of course - as long as the luxury suite and club seat renewals continue apace.

but a passive Boone won't gain any favor with the Romans in the crowd.

not a defense of his behavior, but it doesn't shock me.
   12. Rob_Wood Posted: June 03, 2023 at 07:00 PM (#6131428)
Here is the tally I get for Boone's 30 career ejections as a manager:

17 Visitor

13 Home
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: June 03, 2023 at 07:16 PM (#6131429)
the rabid game-attenders and WFAN callers watch nearly every game, home or away.

and unlike Lou Grant, they don't hate "spunk."

;)
   14. Tom and Shivs couples counselor Posted: June 04, 2023 at 07:56 AM (#6131456)
In the vid in post 8 the ump who comes in to be the mediator is JOE WEST.

Crazy
   15. Tony S Posted: June 04, 2023 at 08:25 AM (#6131457)
that pennant drought since 2009 - their only pennant in two decades - is not sitting well, at all.


Historically, the Yankees haven't done particularly well in the first two decades of a century.

Their rings are actually ahead of last century's pace.

:)
   16. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 04, 2023 at 10:39 AM (#6131463)
Yes, but now they've got to win 3 more in the next 6 years to stay ahead.

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99 times out of 100 he's complaining about visibly bad calls

Which is true of every manager who's ever argued with an umpire. The difference is that Boone seems to argue every single time close calls go against the Yankees. The Orioles had a three game series in NY couple weeks ago, and in game one the home plate ump missed a significant number of ball/strike calls, most of which favored NY and went against Baltimore. You can see the umpire scorecard for that game here:

https://twitter.com/UmpScorecards/status/1661380079182663682


I watched that game, and definitely remember the bad calls against the Orioles. But obviously no manager's going to complain about bad calls that favor his team, even when the home team announcers are noticing them.**

To the extent that I complain about bad calls against the Yankees, it's in great part because Judge consistently gets more bad calls on him than anyone. What I can't figure out---though I'm sure others have their theories---is how Boone reconciles his justified complaints against home plate umpires with his opposition to robo-umps, since robo-umps would eliminate 99% of his complaints. (For any other bad calls there's replay.)

** It's funny though not surprising to hear former player announcers react differently to ball and strike calls. An ex-pitcher like Smoltz on Fox seems to regard gift strikes as a pitcher's birthright, as he constantly says about pitches outside the zone that "that could've been called a strike", but never says about a gift strike that "that should've been a ball." OTOH a retired batter like O'Neill is much more willing to call out gift strikes, while the non-player Kay is much more neutral.
   17. The Yankee Clapper Posted: June 04, 2023 at 02:24 PM (#6131485)
Robo-umpires are a dangerous step toward robo-managers.
   18. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 04, 2023 at 04:15 PM (#6131495)
Robo-umpires are a dangerous step toward robo-managers.

And robots taking over the world! It's the slippery slope to end all slippery slopes!
   19. Rob_Wood Posted: June 05, 2023 at 10:59 AM (#6131553)
I am following in the exalted footsteps of Dave Pappas and David Vincent in searching for/managing the Retrosheet ejections database.


Jeez, of course I meant "Doug Pappas" who did a lot of work tracking down and codifying historical ejections. He is best known for his pioneering work in "the business of baseball".

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