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Monday, July 31, 2023

Aaron Civale traded to Rays for Kyle Manzardo

The Rays made an aggressive move Monday afternoon to add another talented arm to their rotation, acquiring right-hander Aaron Civale from the Guardians for highly touted first-base prospect Kyle Manzardo. Manzardo, 23, is ranked by MLB Pipeline as the No. 37 prospect in the game.

jimfurtado Posted: July 31, 2023 at 05:34 PM | 8 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: July 31, 2023 at 06:01 PM (#6137778)
Interesting trade - an old fashioned baseball trade - as the saying goes
   2. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: July 31, 2023 at 07:07 PM (#6137781)
2 smart teams that punch way above their weight(well payroll) nearly every year. I expect this to work out for both clubs.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: July 31, 2023 at 07:14 PM (#6137785)
Nah, even by old-fashioned standards this is an interesting trade. A team a half-game out of first trades a pitcher with a 2.50 ERA at the deadline? Teams never did that. The Guardians also have a 26-yo 1B who's been putting up good numbers for the last couple of years.

But ya gotta trust these two teams. If there's one things the Guardians are great at, it's knowing the exact minimum needed to compete in the ALC. And Civale has never made it through a full season (career high 21 starts) and that 2.50 ERA is a run below his FIP with a mediocre K rate. So i assume they've decided losing 2 months of Civale won't hurt their chances much. The Rays of course also know what they're doing so I assume they did not just trade the next Freddie Freeman (but maybe the next Nate Lowe).
   4. sotapop Posted: August 01, 2023 at 02:39 PM (#6137825)
Worth noting for any who didn't RTFA, Civale has two more years on his contract, so this isn't just a short-term rental for the Rays. Given how snakebitten their rotation has been, this makes sense long-term. And if the starters do stay healthy, and the Rays make the playoffs, this could allow them to shift someone their bullpen -- which has been horrendous this year.
   5. Russ Posted: August 02, 2023 at 10:35 AM (#6137900)
I always imagine that these trade negotiations between two good organizations have same amount of mutual respect as the first sword fight between the Man In Black and Inigo Montoya. "There’s something I ought to tell you. I’m not left-handed either."
   6. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: August 02, 2023 at 11:54 AM (#6137902)
As a Cleveland fan, I like it. They're only a contender this year because the rest of the division is worse.

The Guardians continue to churn out passable pitchers-they have three rookie starters in their rotation right now who have a combined 3.41 ERA. But they perennially need help on offense. Naylor has played well, so maybe they can just slide Manzardo in at DH, especially since they also moved Josh Bell.
   7. Stevey Posted: August 02, 2023 at 12:15 PM (#6137906)
They're ... a contender this year

But that's all of that sentence that needs to be said. I get that they have significant flaws, they needed the kind of bat this kid could develop into, and they sold high on a guy that most of the fanbase was quite unhappy that he pitched at all in the 2022 postseason. But no one asks how you made the playoffs, just if you did. This team is perpetually planning for three years down the road. The chances seem incredibly high that as soon as Manzardo becomes a key piece to the org, like Civale has become, they'll be looking to trade him for someone who can help another three years further down the road. At some point you have to stop competing for the fewest $ spent per WAR belt and start competing for the real prize.
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