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Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Acing it: Success of Nats, Astros puts attention on starters

SCOTTSDALE, Ariz. (AP) — Washington went against baseball’s trend toward bulked-up bullpens, dedicating 39 percent of its payroll to three starting pitchers: Max Scherzer, Stephen Strasburg and Patrick Corbin. The trio triumphed, lifting the Nationals to the first World Series title in the team’s 51-season history,

Houston came within one win of its second championship in three seasons, led by a rotation headed by Gerrit Cole, Justin Verlander and Zack Greinke.

In a sport of copycats, will rotation arms regain prominence throughout the major leagues?

“That’s my favorite question of every GM meetings. It is the narrative of whoever won the World Series,” Los Angeles Dodgers president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman said Tuesday. “I think as you look back at the World Series champions the last five, 10 years, they’re all great teams and they all get there in slightly different ways.”

In other words, the sort of change we should expect, now that the limitations of the parade of relievers has become apparent…..

 

QLE Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:34 AM | 9 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: November 13, 2019 at 10:42 AM (#5900816)
When did great starting pitching go out of style - of course you want awesome starting pitching - it’s just really hard to find and afford ?
   2. bbmck Posted: November 13, 2019 at 04:26 PM (#5900940)
Among World Series winners, most regular season games of 6+ IP and 1 Run or fewer per 3 IP:

2019 Nats - 58
2018 Red Sox - 45
2017 Astros - 48
2016 Cubs - 80, most since 1969 Mets
2015 Royals - 48

2014 Giants - 63
2013 Red Sox - 59
2012 Giants - 68
2011 Cardinals - 56
2010 Giants - 65

The 1925 Pirates have the fewest with 38, the 1908 Cubs the most with 93.

Among World Series winners, most regular season games of 1+ IP and 0 Runs in relief:

2019 Nats - 251
2018 Red Sox - 320
2017 Astros - 301
2016 Cubs - 260
2015 Royals - 327

2014 Giants - 255
2013 Red Sox - 240
2012 Giants - 222
2011 Cardinals - 215
2010 Giants - 257

The Top 3 are listed above with the 2007 Red Sox considerably behind with 265 in 4th. This millennium is Top 18 and the 2005 White Sox with 190 in 21st trailing the 1996 Yankees and 1997 Marlins each with 200. The 1918 Red Sox have the fewest with 12.
   3. DL from MN Posted: November 13, 2019 at 05:23 PM (#5900963)
How did the Red Sox play 320 games in 2018?
   4. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: November 13, 2019 at 05:44 PM (#5900970)
So I assume the 2nd part of that list in #2 is the number of relief innings in which no runs were scored against the team in question?
   5. bbmck Posted: November 13, 2019 at 10:04 PM (#5901002)
Player games so on average just under 2 relievers usually pitching a scoreless inning every game of the season although allowing an inherited runner to score would also qualify, number after name is raising the requirement to 4 outs:

48 - Craig Kimbrel 4
46 - Joe Kelly 5
45 - Matt Barnes 5
31 - Heath Hembree 7
25 - Brandon Workman 5, Ryan Brasier 4

22 - Hector Velazquez 10
15 - Tyler Thornburg 1
12 - Steven Wright 6, Brian Johnson 7
9 - Bobby Poyner 3

8 - Carson Smith 0, Drew Pomeranz 3
4 - Marcus Walden 2
3 - Eduardo Rodriguez 2, William Cuevas 1
2 - Robby Scott 1, Justin Haley 1
   6. Spahn Insane Posted: November 14, 2019 at 12:26 AM (#5901020)
Yes, who knew before the 2019 WS that having three ace-level starters might be an advantage in a short series.
   7. Rally Posted: November 14, 2019 at 08:20 AM (#5901028)
Doesn't always work. Remember when Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling combined for 47 regular season wins and 650 strikeouts?

Then swept out of the playoffs in 3 games.
   8. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 14, 2019 at 11:40 AM (#5901109)

Among World Series winners, most regular season games of 6+ IP and 1 Run or fewer per 3 IP:

#2 so how do recent WS winners rank in these stats relative to the rest of the league? Presumably they're better than average but not always the best.
   9. bbmck Posted: November 14, 2019 at 02:43 PM (#5901176)
In the last 10 years:

102 - 2011 PHI
97 - 2013 DET
90-94 - 8 teams
85-89 - 23 teams
80-84 - 38 teams

75-79 - 44 teams
70-74 - 33 teams
65-69 - 31 teams
60-64 - 35 teams
55-59 - 41 teams

50-54 - 15 teams
45-49 - 12 teams
40-44 - 9 teams
35-39 - 4 teams

34 - 2019 BAL
32 - 2019 MIL
28 - 2019 TOR
27 - 2012 COL
21 - 2019 LAA

The 30 seasons under 50 are 17 in 2019, 7 in 2018, 3 in 2017, 2016 MIN, 2015 COL and 2012 COL.

The fewest making the playoffs are:

55 - 2019 MIN, 2016 BAL
49 - 2019 TBR
47 - 2019 NYY
46 - 2018 MIL
32 - 2019 MIL

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