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Tuesday, December 17, 2019

Adam Warren to rehab from Tommy John with New York Yankees

NEW YORK (AP) — Adam Warren will rehab from Tommy John surgery with the New York Yankees.

Warren agreed Monday to a minor league contract with his former team but is not expected to pitch next year while he recovers from surgery that took place in September.

A 32-year-old right-hander, Warren debuted with the Yankees in 2012, was traded to the Chicago Cubs in December 2015, reacquired by New York in July 2016 and dealt to Seattle in July 2018. He signed a one-year contract with San Diego as a free agent ahead of the 2019 season and was 4-1 with a 5.34 ERA in 25 relief appearances through June 7, then was placed on the injured list the following day with a strained right forearm.

A question, for the contract mavens among us:

How do we interpret this contract?

 

QLE Posted: December 17, 2019 at 01:43 AM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: adam warren, tommy john surgery, yankees

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   1. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: December 17, 2019 at 08:47 AM (#5909190)
Tommy John with New York Yankees

I read this and thought, "Is it 1988 again?"
   2. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: December 17, 2019 at 09:03 AM (#5909193)
A question, for the contract mavens among us:

How do we interpret this contract?


The Yankees using their money wisely to buy some good will from a player that may be of value to them at a later date?
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 17, 2019 at 09:12 AM (#5909196)
How do we interpret this contract? 

It's a two-year minor league deal. The salary is $800K if he makes the big league roster, with $700K in incentives.

So, the goal is for Warren to rehab in 2020, and then pitch for the Yankees in 2021.
   4. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 17, 2019 at 09:51 AM (#5909211)
If they wanted to pay someone to rehab from Tommy John, David Robertson was available!
   5. caspian88 Posted: December 17, 2019 at 09:58 AM (#5909216)
The Yankees did this to Jon Lieber about 15 years ago. He missed the first season and gave them 176 innings at a 104 ERA+ the second season, plus three decent postseason starts.

I'd say more teams should do this, but I suppose I don't know how often a pitcher is available in free agency who I know will be out in year one but has a strong chance to come back in year two.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: December 17, 2019 at 10:03 AM (#5909221)
I didn't know minor-league contracts for veteran players could be for more than 1 year.
   7. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: December 17, 2019 at 10:50 AM (#5909240)
The Rays also just did this with Eovaldi. 1 yr @ $2M with an option for a 2nd yr at $2M. He didn't pitch at all the first year, then threw about 50 innings and was traded for Jalen Beeks.
   8. PreservedFish Posted: December 17, 2019 at 10:57 AM (#5909245)
If you need TJS and you're a free agent, are you just #### outta luck? Does MLB insurance pay for it? Who pays for your rehab?
   9. Blastin Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:10 AM (#5909250)
I wish I loved something as much as Cashman loves Warren.

(But seriously, zero risk, why not.)
   10. Blastin Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:10 AM (#5909251)
David Robertson was available!


He's not, though. He is not a free agent.
   11. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:12 AM (#5909254)
I think the Phillies would be willing to make a deal.
   12. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:17 AM (#5909258)
This is something that probably happens more often than people realize. In addition to examples from other teams, over the years the Cubs have done this with Ryan Dempster (worked out for them, both with him pitching well for the Cubs and for getting traded for Kyle Hendricks), Drew Smyly (didn't work out, he was salary dumped so the Cubs could keep Hamels last year), Kendall Graveman (didn't work out, Cubs didn't pick up his option).
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:19 AM (#5909259)
If you need TJS and you're a free agent, are you just #### outta luck? Does MLB insurance pay for it? Who pays for your rehab?

Your previous team (the one you sustained the injury with) is on the hook for the medical bills and rehab costs. You don't get paid though.
   14. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:23 AM (#5909261)
I saw Eovaldi's lone AAA outing in 2017 (he pitched in relief in two minor league postseason games that year) and remarked to my date what an unexpected treat that was. She was .... less impressed?
   15. JJ1986 Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:27 AM (#5909263)
I think a lot of these have been major league contracts. The Rays gave a 2-year minor league deal to rehabbing Neil Wagner years ago and I think they did another pitcher the next year.
   16. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: December 17, 2019 at 11:42 AM (#5909272)
I saw Eovaldi's lone AAA outing in 2017 (he pitched in relief in two minor league postseason games that year) and remarked to my date what an unexpected treat that was. She was .... less impressed?

I assume you never called her again, right?
   17. Walt Davis Posted: December 17, 2019 at 03:08 PM (#5909344)
Seems to me this is done fairly often but I also didn't realize you could sign a multi-year minor-league deal ... but then I guess that rarely comes up or makes any sense while it does here.

The tough decisions are often around arb-eligible pitchers. Pretty sure the Cubs once tendered Prior (for no pay rise, maybe even the max cut) even though they knew he'd likely be out the entire year and then I think the next year non-tendered him but signed him for a much lower price hoping he'd finally get back. OK, looks like my memory is probably off -- if the Cubs did this, it would have been for 2007 then non-tendered him and he signed with SD for 2008. But he might have still be on his original contract for 2007.
   18. Der-K: at 10% emotional investment Posted: December 17, 2019 at 03:17 PM (#5909350)
I assume you never called her again, right?

Heh - we're still an item.

Most of the time I hear about minor leaguers signing minor league deals (not counting their equivalent of the reserve clause), it's injury related - but I think I heard of at least one guy signed such a deal while healthy this off-season (don't recall who).
   19. RoyalFlush Posted: December 17, 2019 at 05:45 PM (#5909399)
The Royals did this with Medlen, but I don't think it was a minor league deal. They signed him in '14 with the hopes he'd pitch in '15. He only threw 15 few games in '15 and then the Royals signed him again for '16 where he only threw about 6 games.

Didn't really go well.

   20. manchestermets Posted: December 18, 2019 at 06:13 AM (#5909457)
Heh - we're still an item.


And this is why contracting forty minor league teams is a bad idea.

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