Seems like a lot of animosity towards the Angels. I guess they think they won't move. How much control do the Dodgers have on where Anaheim can move? Seems like you ought to be able to stay in LA area even if you want to leave Anaheim.

How much control do the Dodgers have on where Anaheim can move?

I don't think the Dodgers have any control over an in-market move, unless there was a special deal. When the Yankees used to talk about moving to NJ, I never heard anyone say the Mets could block it. I think the Giants-A's thing is a special agreement.

When the Yankees used to talk about moving to NJ

I was always sorry the Yankees (or Mets, actually) didn't somehow move into the west side train yard. That would have been fun. Well, at least for me.

Seems like a lot of animosity towards the Angels. I guess they think they won't move. How much control do the Dodgers have on where Anaheim can move? Seems like you ought to be able to stay in LA area even if you want to leave Anaheim.

Moreno already tried this. He wants a huge area to develop for a fraction of its value and no desirable location is going to agree to that.

Arte should look into the Irwindale gravel pits.

Moreno has threatened to move the team to Long Beach or Tustin (among others), but I think both had too many issues to be viable without a lot of concessions being made by one side or the other. His hope was always to get a guy like Sidhu in power in Anaheim, who basically ran for mayor on the premise that the city should be run by Disney and the Angels, and then ram a deal through while he had greedy advocates in his corner. A deal could still theoretically be constructed that makes sense for both the city and the team, but Moreno has a long history of being spiteful and ornery when he feels like he, and by extension his organization, is not being given the respect he deserves.

I have a feeling this is going to get uglier before it gets better. I know MLB has to approve moves, but I don't know how far that power extends. Can Moreno unilaterally move the team within the same market? Will he try to move the team out of the market completely? Or will both sides find a way to coexist and keep the franchise here? As an Anaheim resident, I certainly hope for the latter, but I'm also glad that the deal has been rejected as it stood. I just wish it didn't cost the city $100 million in fines for doing it wrong the first time.

Honestly, if they move out of market, and I can watch on MLB.TV, I'm cool with that. Anything to watch Trout, Ohtani, and Sandoval without paying for cable....

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I feel like it’s a bad look for Moreno and MLB if he starts threatening to move the team out of Southern California because the city nixed a deal obtained via bribery.

The problem is that any potential deal is going to be watched closely by 1) the state or 2) the feds to make sure nothing untoward goes down.

I feel like it’s a bad look for Moreno and MLB if he starts threatening to move the team out of Southern California because the city nixed a deal obtained via bribery.

Would anyone take the threat seriously enough to care? It is theoretically plausible for Moreno to move the Angels to another city in LA/OC/Riverside, but the idea that he would move the team to Portland, Las Vegas, or Nashville is not credible.

Of course, loony Georgia Frontiere did move the Rams from Anaheim to St. Louis…

I was always sorry the Yankees (or Mets, actually) didn't somehow move into the west side train yard.

The Jets infamously tried to move to the west side of Manhattan adjacent to the Javits Center maybe 15 years ago. it was a weird "Transformers" plan where the stadium was connected to that convention center and supposedly could double as an expansion for events. all part of the failed NYC bid for the 2012 Summer Olympics.

Long Beach has a message to the Angels: Come on down!

According to the original proposal, the Long Beach stadium would be built on what is known as the “Elephant Lot,” a 13-acre site where circus elephants used to gather. In 2019, the city and the Angels discussed options for a 55-acre proposal, which would have enabled the team to surround the stadium with some of the same entertainment concepts that had been planned around Angel Stadium.

the idea that he would move the team to Portland, Las Vegas, or Nashville is not credible.

They could play the half a season in Montreal that the Rays won't be playing.

a 13-acre site where circus elephants used to gather.

Seems tailor-made for the A's

The Jets infamously tried to move to the west side of Manhattan adjacent to the Javits Center maybe 15 years ago

Right, I remember this, that's why I mentioned it. With all the talk, some wag somewhere probably brought up baseball, and it was at the end of Shea's time, etc. It was just a fun thing to contemplate, and imagine the aerial views ala PacBell and San Francisco. I lived literally one block south on 29th and 10th for a couple of years, 2005. Was broken into once because the (pre-park, completely abandoned) High Line was across an adjoining roof that lead to our kitchen window.

According to WSJ: Disney is now implicated in the favors for money schemes including some role the stadium deal. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of wokesters. If they think Desantis is a problem wait until the Feds sink their teeth into years of local corruption.

Edit: Nevermind.

#15: That's what the Ignore option is for, my guy.

I don't remember baseball ever being proposed for that west side location. The other use besides football would have been an MLS team, which eventually became the NYCFC franchise that plays at Yankee Stadium.

Giuliani was the one who wanted to bring the Yankees to the West Side.

Mr. Giuliani, as mayor, never made it a secret that he had a thing about baseball. He even subverted the city's charter revision process when he wanted a Yankee stadium on Manhattan's West Side, a dream that slipped from him during his eight-year term, which ended in December.