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Friday, June 26, 2020

Andrew Toles jailed for sleeping behind the Key West airport, police say

A 28-year-old Major League baseball player was jailed this week after police said they found him sleeping behind the Key West airport.

Andrew Alvin Toles was arrested June 22 on a misdemeanor charge of trespassing after he refused to leave the area, according to the arrest report from the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office.

Police listed his address as the “streets of Key West.”...

An outfielder for the Los Angeles Dodgers, Toles spent last year on the restricted list, after leaving the Dodgers’ spring training facility in late May due to a personal matter, according to reports by MLB.com. Because of the pandemic, baseball play is currently suspended until July 1, when teams can report to their spirng training sites for practice.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 26, 2020 at 04:06 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. depletion Posted: June 26, 2020 at 11:07 PM (#5959791)
Obviously a talented guy, who has had issues dealing with the discipline necessary for baseball. From this incident it seems, perhaps, he is not a bad guy, but has some behavioral health issues. Good luck to him.
   2. asinwreck Posted: June 27, 2020 at 03:35 PM (#5959857)
Upsetting news; I did not realize he was struggling this much.
   3. . . . . . . Posted: June 28, 2020 at 08:45 AM (#5959931)
I don't think he has behavioral health issues, he has mental health issues. Really sucks.
   4. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 30, 2020 at 06:05 PM (#5960463)
More on Toles:

The next time the Dodgers knew about his whereabouts was when they received a call from the Phoenix police in early February. He crashed his car and was walking along a desert highway disoriented, and dangerously dehydrated, unaware of his whereabouts. He was admitted to a Phoenix area hospital, and Toles’ mother, Vicky, contacted the Dodgers, seeking help.

“He recognized me in the hospital from our time together in Tampa,’’ said Dodgers medical director Ron Porterfield, who had spent 21 years with the Rays. “He said my name, but he didn’t even know how he got from LA to Phoenix. He asked me to take him home. I said, 'Where are we going?’ He said, 'To my apartment.' But he didn’t know where his apartment was."

Toles spent two weeks in the hospital, with Porterfield finally being granted permission to access his medical records. Toles was mandated by the court to a county facility, and later transferred to a behavioral health treatment center until mid-April. It was the longest stint he had ever spent in the hospital.

He was officially diagnosed with bipolar disorder and schizophrenia.

The Dodgers and the Toles’ family kept his illness and whereabouts a secret to the outside world. The Dodgers told reporters he was absent from the team because of “personal reasons.’’ The family told friends that Toles was simply working out and rehabbing from his knee injury.


   5. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: June 30, 2020 at 06:16 PM (#5960464)
I remember Toles from the 2016 NLCS. He was pretty good in a limited appearance, 6-13 with 4 R and 2 RBI.
   6. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: June 30, 2020 at 06:40 PM (#5960470)
I urge everyone to read the full article. This is what happens because as a matter of policy, we allow people who are in a floridly psychotic state to retain control over their treatment, including the ability to refuse treatment beyond a 72-hour hold.
   7. depletion Posted: July 01, 2020 at 01:26 AM (#5960514)
Driving a long distance for no reason whatsoever, not even to “see the sights”, is not atypical of bipolar people. A woman in a group I was in did such behavior - awake for 26 hours without taking stimulants. She was such a bright , pleasant young lady. I get sad when I read stories like these. Regarding #6, it is not easy to determine the threshold for involuntary stays in a facility. There have been people “committed “ by family members for the wrong reasons. It is not an exact science to find the threshold for holding someone.
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: July 01, 2020 at 10:29 AM (#5960533)
Regarding #6, it is not easy to determine the threshold for involuntary stays in a facility. There have been people “committed “ by family members for the wrong reasons. It is not an exact science to find the threshold for holding someone.
It's true that it is not an exact science, and that there will be borderline cases for any standard used. And I don't doubt that family members have abused the process in some cases.

However -- and I say this as someone who has been the "first responder" for a longtime friend who has struggled with cycles of manic episodes and hospitalizations over many years -- at least from what I've seen, the error is now very much on the side of undertreatment. Doctors and hospitals fear lawsuits (####### lawyers) and will only hold someone involuntarily if he/she is openly expressing suicidal or homicidal desires. If they're merely incapable of sustaining lucidity and are inevitably going to resume the spiral, well, that's too bad for them and their family and friends.

Either the "danger to self or others" standard needs to be explicitly broadened to include significant risk to their own well-being beyond just imminent physical harm, or the standard needs to be changed to "incapable of lucid decision-making" or something like that.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 01, 2020 at 01:34 PM (#5960562)
However -- and I say this as someone who has been the "first responder" for a longtime friend who has struggled with cycles of manic episodes and hospitalizations over many years -- at least from what I've seen, the error is now very much on the side of undertreatment.

Yes. The Cook County Sheriff often has said he runs the largest mental hospital in the country. Seriously mentally ill people only get committed after they commit a crime.
   10. Mayor Blomberg Posted: July 01, 2020 at 02:08 PM (#5960566)
I've been teaching in a state prison for over two decades. Not an inmate in the system who doesn't know that.
Deinstitutionalization was half a good idea. The other half, services, never manifested. (I saw that first hand when I worked in community mental health.)
   11. Dr. Vaux Posted: July 01, 2020 at 03:06 PM (#5960584)
It's ridiculous for that to be a crime. Deinstitutionalization was indeed half a good idea, but replacing an institution where they're at least supposedly trying to help a person, even if that leaves much to be desired, with one where a person is in even more danger of both physical and psychological trauma, makes it even worse. Walking along disoriented is a lot better than being in prison.
   12. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 01, 2020 at 03:16 PM (#5960586)
Walking along disoriented is a lot better than being in prison.

Problem is that a lot of these "disoriented people" end up committing violent crimes, because when off their meds, they're batshit crazy.

You either put them in a mental institution where they are compelled to accept treatment, or they'll end up in prison, often after hurting someone else.
   13. depletion Posted: July 02, 2020 at 12:59 AM (#5960664)
There almost zero mental institutions that are not prisons. Hospital psych wards are not suitable for long term stays, because there’s almost nothing to do outside sleeping. You can catch some YouTube’s that show what the older institutions were like: plenty of outdoor work-like activity (farm related), indoor work doing some modest crafts. All those places are closed. For the most part it’s prisons or extremely expensive joints.

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