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Friday, March 31, 2023

Angels’ $245m man Anthony Rendon is caught on camera trying to PUNCH an Oakland A’s fan after grabbing him by the shirt in ugly Opening Day altercation: ‘You called me a b****?’

Los Angeles Angels third baseman Anthony Rendon was caught in a physical confrontation with an Athletics fan at Thursday’s opener in Oakland.

In a video that has since gone viral, the 32-year-old native Texan is seen grabbing the fan’s shirt before swinging and missing at the man as the Angels walked into the clubhouse following their 2-1 loss to the A’s.

‘What did you say?’ Rendon asked while grabbing the front-row fan by his shirt. ‘You called me a b****, huh?’

The man is heard denying Rendon’s accusation, but the Angels star wasn’t hearing it.

‘Yeah you did, yeah you did, mother*****’ Rendon said before taking an open-handed swipe at the A’s fan, who tells him to ‘calm down.’

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:03 PM | 75 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. salvomania Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:22 PM (#6122047)
What a knucklehead.
   2. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:23 PM (#6122048)
Rendon should be suspended for a month.
   3. kcgard2 Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:32 PM (#6122049)
I'm not sure in what world that's considered a punch, much less a PUNCH. Oh yeah, except the clickbait headline world. Still, why does Rendon care at all what a random fan did or didn't say? Bad look.
   4. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:33 PM (#6122050)
More of a swipe than a punch. If he did it to another player he’d get 4 games to think about it. This is much worse.
   5. Tin Angel Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:35 PM (#6122051)
Not to condone Rendon's actions, but...we've created quite a society here, where someone can insult another person for hours, and the second that person finally can't take it anymore and gets in their face about it, out come the cameras and it's "Look what this guy did to me!!" People suck.

Edit: Actually, on second thought Rendon's actions were totally fine. Screw loud mouths like this.
   6. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:36 PM (#6122052)
Fans shouldn't have free reign to insult and verbally abuse players, especially in close proximity, but pick your battles. If the offense was really just calling him a b****, then this is a bit overboard. He's a schmuck in the stands. You're the guy on a $245M contract.
   7. dejarouehg Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:37 PM (#6122053)
Rendon should be suspended for a month.
I don't particularly care for Rendon in general, especially when he openly stated that he doesn't really care for baseball. So let's say these exact same circumstances occurred with Mike Trout.....I would be completely supportive of him beating the crap out of an adult fan who hurled invectives at him. I'm so tired of fans acting like the purchase of a ticket entitles them to act like jackasses. If you're going to be a tough guy, then be the tough guy. Of course, once the player goes after the fan, then whatever happens happens.

I have seen players shoot daggers at the wrong fan who they thought shouted a disgusting comment at them.

I'll never forget walking out of Madison Square Garden many years ago when Tim Tuefel, then on the Mets, was on walking down the stairs in front of me with his wife when some animal behind me shouted "Tuefel Sucks!" Other than perhaps having greater economic exposure resulting from a civil suit than most, I see no reason Tueful shouldn't have walked up and clocked this guy.
   8. dejarouehg Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:37 PM (#6122054)
double tap
   9. dejarouehg Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:38 PM (#6122055)
You're the guy on a $245M contract.
What difference does this make?
   10. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:49 PM (#6122057)
Not to condone Rendon's actions, but...we've created quite a society here, where someone can insult another person for hours, and the second that person finally can't take it anymore and gets in their face about it, out come the cameras and it's "Look what this guy did to me!!" People suck.


Hard disagree, except for that last part. Rendon is a performer; that's why his compensation is like that.

You can't have your performers assaulting paying customers, whether you put on circuses at county fairs or big-league games.
   11. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 04:50 PM (#6122058)
Ok, I guess heckling players on the opposing team justifies the player getting physical with a fan. I’m always surprised at the groupthink here.
   12. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 31, 2023 at 05:03 PM (#6122060)
I agree, it wasn't a PUNCH, but it still wasn't ok.

If someone tells me I suck in public, it doesn't justify me physically assaulting them. There are some things that could be said which might justify such a reaction (i.e., racial slurs), being called a \"#####\" isn't one of them IMO.

Not to condone Rendon's actions, but...we've created quite a society here, where someone can insult another person for hours, and the second that person finally can't take it anymore and gets in their face about it, out come the cameras and it's "Look what this guy did to me!!" People suck.

Players have been heckled pretty much as long as the game has been around. Most of them know not to react physically. A few game suspension for Rendon seems appropriate.

Fan should probably be ejected (I know, the game was already over, but still) for using that kind of language as well.
   13. Tin Angel Posted: March 31, 2023 at 05:08 PM (#6122061)
What group think are you talking about it? I stated my opinion. I am in general all for loud mouths getting punched. Doesn't have anything to do with "group think." Where do people come up with this stuff where if someone doesn't agree with them it's group think. Would you also call it group think if everyone disagrees with me?
   14. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 05:26 PM (#6122062)
Ok, let me rephrase. A surprising number of the earlier comments expressed support for attacking loudmouth fans. I am pleased to see there are a number of us who don’t share that idiotic opinion. I apologize.
   15. smileyy Posted: March 31, 2023 at 05:31 PM (#6122064)
You can't have your performers assaulting paying customers, whether you put on circuses at county fairs or big-league games.


This.

Get the fan ejected and banned from the stadium. I'm pretty sure that kind of heckling violates the conditions of entry.
   16. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 06:06 PM (#6122065)
@15

I think when they settle out of court they will have to agree to keep letting him come to games.
   17. The Duke Posted: March 31, 2023 at 06:37 PM (#6122069)
I'd prefer to hear the whole story first. Was this a game-long invective being hurled his way? A one-off comment ? What do other fans and players say was happening? Context would be helpful here
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: March 31, 2023 at 06:52 PM (#6122072)
I think fans who hurl insults at players are jackasses who should be tossed on many occasions. And that players should obviously be suspended if they lay their hands on them (Gary Sheffield somehow excepted).
   19. You Cannot Transcribe Zonk Posted: March 31, 2023 at 06:52 PM (#6122073)
The Angels are like a supergroup that decides.... lets get a Jagger, a Bowie, a Cobain, whatever to be lead singer. Then - let's add a Richards, a Hendrix, a Page, etc to pair.

...and then finds Steven Adler puking and stoned to the beejesus in an alley and figures "Well, he's famous. That's another piece to the band".
   20. Bleed the Freak Posted: March 31, 2023 at 07:09 PM (#6122077)
17. The Duke Posted: March 31, 2023 at 06:37 PM (#6122069)
I'd prefer to hear the whole story first. Was this a game-long invective being hurled his way? A one-off comment ? What do other fans and players say was happening? Context would be helpful here


Agree, context please, this is tame compared to my memories...

For a real altercation, go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xtHJXXJVUU
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 31, 2023 at 07:14 PM (#6122078)
Rendon should be suspended for a month.
That’s nonsense, given what actually happened. MLB wants to maintain some sort of wall of separation between players & fans physically confronting each other, but there was no punch & no injury, just a swipe. Two or three games would be consistent with MLB’s past practice, a month would not be, and likely would be drastically reduced in arbitration.
   22. You Cannot Transcribe Zonk Posted: March 31, 2023 at 07:21 PM (#6122080)
I imagine the Angels would be horrified to have their 35m latter day Casey Blake suspended...
   23. Hombre Brotani Posted: March 31, 2023 at 07:47 PM (#6122082)
Social media made you all way too comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it.
-- Mike Tyson
   24. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 31, 2023 at 08:43 PM (#6122087)
Talk about a media created non-incident. AFIAC MLB should just pretend it never happened and let similarly inclined "fans" draw their own conclusions.
   25. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 31, 2023 at 09:12 PM (#6122089)
What kind of person goes to a game, or anywhere for that matter, and yells such stupid things at someone you don't even know?
Does this guy have a partner? Parents? Kids? What would they think? If I knew someone who did stuff like that, I'd be embarrassed.

Yes, Rendon should've just walked on by, but geez what kind of society do we live in whereby people can just talk to other people like sh*t? It's appalling.
   26. Howie Menckel Posted: March 31, 2023 at 09:26 PM (#6122091)
There are some things that could be said which might justify such a reaction (i.e., racial slurs), being called a \"#####\" isn't one of them IMO.


this is a really interesting comment, Dave, because racial slurs obviously are at another level and "you suck!" is crude but, c'mon.

am thinking about where \"#####\" ranks there. possibly some men would find that more enraging than others.

and no, I'm not justifying Rendon's actions. but I think it is worth talking about what level insult this is on the grand scale. I'm not sure.

and yes, this fan is a ######### - and if he becomes "famous" because of this - well, if you can't do the time.....
   27. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: March 31, 2023 at 09:40 PM (#6122093)
Yes, Rendon should've just walked on by, but geez what kind of society do we live in whereby people can just talk to other people like sh*t? It's appalling.
This one, unfortunately. It's a minority that feel this entitled to be uncivil, but they're awfully ####### loud.
   28. Tony S Posted: March 31, 2023 at 09:48 PM (#6122094)
Well, we don't know if this individual was screaming the epithet at Rendon all game, or just muttered it to him as he walked by at the end. Either way, it was douchey of the fan.

But "beetch" is mid-level when it comes to insults. I can't imagine most ballplayers haven't heard worse.

Also, why Rendon? He's always been a pretty innocuous player.
   29. Hombre Brotani Posted: March 31, 2023 at 10:00 PM (#6122096)
Also, why Rendon? He's always been a pretty innocuous player.
Opposing player. Some people don't need a reason beyond simply wanting to antagonize.
   30. Adam Starblind Posted: March 31, 2023 at 10:22 PM (#6122102)
. Two or three games would be consistent with MLB’s past practice,


Such as?
   31. Tony S Posted: March 31, 2023 at 10:33 PM (#6122105)

Ty Cobb was suspended for 10 games when he attacked a fan.

Back around 1980 or 1981, Cesar Cedeno leaped into the stands in Atlanta and pummeled a fan who had been heckling him all night (and apparently the previous night as well). Cedeno got kicked out of the game, of course, but I don't remember how long the suspension was after that (if any).

Rendon's punch didn't come anywhere near that level.
   32. SoSH U at work Posted: March 31, 2023 at 11:42 PM (#6122111)
Chad Kreuter and three Dodgers coaches got eight games each for fighting with fans at Wrigley in 2000 after a fan stole Kreuter's hat.

Frank Francisco was suspended for the remainder of the 2004 season after throwing a chair at an A's fan (and hitting the fan's wife). It also precipitated one of the more heated BTF threads.

Gary Sheffield got zero games for pushing a fan at Fenway who had leaned over the railing trying to get a ball in play, scraping Sheff in the process.

So, I don't know what Rendon will get.
   33. MuttsIdolCochrane Posted: April 01, 2023 at 07:33 AM (#6122119)
Going to sporting events and yelling at your team's opponents, how horrible and unique. Gives me the vapors.
   34. The Duke Posted: April 01, 2023 at 09:59 AM (#6122125)
I particularly enjoyed the grabbing of the shirt to deliver the message close up. He might get a slap on the wrist from touching the fan.
   35. A triple short of the cycle Posted: April 01, 2023 at 11:05 AM (#6122129)
Is there any confirmation of what the fan actually said?
   36. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 01, 2023 at 11:11 AM (#6122130)
Chili Davis got into it with a fan in on deck circle at County Stadium in the 90s.
   37. Adam Starblind Posted: April 01, 2023 at 11:12 AM (#6122131)
Fan-attacker apologists. How strange. Anyway, we’ll see. I don’t expect him to get a month, but if I were in charge I’d deal very harshly with him.

   38. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 01, 2023 at 11:13 AM (#6122132)
not to forget the Tony Phillips fight with a fan behind the LF bleachers at County Stadium, during that exceptionally long fog delayed 20-8 game.
   39. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 01, 2023 at 01:00 PM (#6122145)
The Cedeno thing lasted one game. Chub Feeney issued an indefinite suspension on Wed. and Cedeno didnt play. THur was an off day and the suspension was lifted on Friday based on I think that Cedeno issued a written apology and he didnt punch the guy he merely grabbed him. Apparently Cedeno's wife was there for the brunt of it and the guy was referencing Cedeno's manslaughter conviction.
   40. The Mighty Quintana Posted: April 01, 2023 at 01:14 PM (#6122148)
As a teenager, I used to heckle Kent Hrbek with "Look, everyone, it's Shamu!". 15 year-old me thought that was the height of humor. He should've slapped me.
   41. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 02, 2023 at 10:23 AM (#6122256)
Ty Cobb was suspended for 10 games when he attacked a fan.

Yeah, but Cobb climbed into the stands, ran up several rows, and started actually beating on the guy. Also, the guy had no hands.

Rendon's actions are not even in the same time zone.
   42. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 02, 2023 at 10:24 AM (#6122257)
Talk about a media created non-incident. AFIAC MLB should just pretend it never happened and let similarly inclined "fans" draw their own conclusions.

Concur. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

I also think there's a difference between insults that are basically "you're bad at baseball" (I put "you suck" in that category) and personal insults.
   43. Ron J Posted: April 02, 2023 at 02:09 PM (#6122266)
Thanks to (among others) Babe Ruth and Ty Cobb we have precedents. Mind you, the Cobb and Ruth stories are more extreme. Cobb gave a fan a terrible beating and Ruth went into the stands with a bat.

Cobb was suspended (leading to the Al Travers game before Ban Johnson backed off) and Ruth got suspended (one of either 4 or 5 suspensions that year -- sources give different numbers), fined $200, stripped of the Yankee captaincy (by order of Landis)

So fans have always heckled. At one time it was more common for players to respond with violence. And the league has never been OK about this.
   44. Brian White Posted: April 02, 2023 at 04:11 PM (#6122288)
I miss the day when we would heckle players by bringing signs to the ballpark that said things like, "Hunter Pence eats pizza with a knife and fork."

It's a much more civilized way to heckle.
   45. Cris E Posted: April 02, 2023 at 04:12 PM (#6122289)
One game, more netting near that walkway, more staff near players, suspend the knucklehead fan forever.
   46. shoelesjoe Posted: April 02, 2023 at 06:40 PM (#6122314)
Concur. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.


Disagree 100%. Players should never reach into the stands to put hands on a fan in anger. Never. Not ever. Not for any reason. A fan reaches onto the field to put hands on a player and 99.9% of the time they end up in handcuffs. The penalty for players should be equally harsh in terms of a suspension. Baseball doesn’t need a Ron Artest incident.
   47. BDC Posted: April 02, 2023 at 07:35 PM (#6122320)
Players should never reach into the stands to put hands on a fan in anger. Never. Not ever. Not for any reason

I agree completely and I can't really see the mindset of those who think Rendon was justified. He is the performer. He's got to have performance discipline. The relevance of his $245M contract – or even minimum salary these days, which is vastly more than almost any fan earns – is that you get paid to ignore verbal abuse. Obviously the stadium personnel can set a limit on such abuse and escort certain fans out – but let security deal with that part.
   48. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 02, 2023 at 08:40 PM (#6122329)

I agree completely and I can't really see the mindset of those who think Rendon was justified.


Snapper is being deliberately obtuse in order to provoke people or whatever it is he gets out of this. Clearly an organized sport making billions of dollars cannot go around letting its stars just grab whoever they want to by shirt collar and give them a good dressing down. Thats not how it works in any professional sense, be it sports or business.

Snapper clearly knows this, so grow the #### up.
   49. A triple short of the cycle Posted: April 02, 2023 at 09:38 PM (#6122335)
I would just add - the same standard should apply to a first year playing making minimum salary. You can't get into fights with the fans. I would hope that if a heckler was being so over the line as to provoke a physical response from a player - that someone would step in before it got to that point. Best thing would be for other fans to point it out to security.
   50. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 02, 2023 at 09:43 PM (#6122336)
I agree completely and I can't really see the mindset of those who think Rendon was justified.


I don't think anyone is condoning how Rendon responded. It was unacceptable and he should cop a fine and short suspension.

What myself and others are saying is just because you purchase a ticket to a game, doesn't give you cart blanche to shout any obscenities you want at any player at any time. No one should behaving like that anyway, it's despicable.

As pointed out above, this isn't "hey Hunter Pence removes the label off mattresses" level of cheekiness, it's just darn offensive and I'm sure the fan wouldn't say that to Rendon if he was passing him in the street.

If you're not bold enough to say something to someone's face, then you should keep your mouth shut.
   51. DFA Posted: April 03, 2023 at 02:10 AM (#6122346)
Late to the game, but Timmy Teufel sucks!
   52. The Honorable Ardo Posted: April 03, 2023 at 08:28 AM (#6122354)
If you're going to heckle, for God's sake stay away from profanity, racial comments, etc., and show some creativity. I once got Ross Detwiler to back off from his pre-game warmup at a AAA game (bullpens along the foul lines) and tell me to shut up after lines like, "Hey Ross! Your curveball is floating like a rubber duckie!" Liquid courage may have been involved.
   53. BDC Posted: April 03, 2023 at 09:26 AM (#6122361)
Years ago, the Yankees at old Arlington Stadium: Roberto Kelly was chasing a fly ball and his hat fell off. A guy near me started in with "Hey, Kelly! Get some glue for your hat!" Man, was that hilarious.
   54. Tony S Posted: April 03, 2023 at 09:36 AM (#6122364)

More positively, I was at an early-season game in Houston in the early 80s and Joe Niekro came up to bat. He was hitting .294 or something. My friend yells at him (we were in the box seats), "Hey Joe, if you get a hit here, you'll be batting .300!" Joe heard him and chuckled hard enough he had to back off the plate.

Joe didn't get a hit. :(
   55. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 03, 2023 at 10:45 AM (#6122379)
Snapper is being deliberately obtuse in order to provoke people or whatever it is he gets out of this. Clearly an organized sport making billions of dollars cannot go around letting its stars just grab whoever they want to by shirt collar and give them a good dressing down. Thats not how it works in any professional sense, be it sports or business.

Snapper clearly knows this, so grow the #### up.


Rendon shouldn't do it, but I don't give give two shits that he did. He should get a $500 fine.

   56. Itchy Row Posted: April 03, 2023 at 11:41 AM (#6122389)
Rendon shouldn't do it, but I don't give give two shits that he did
Well, that decides it then. Debate over.
   57. base ball chick Posted: April 03, 2023 at 04:30 PM (#6122459)
i remember the frank francisco thing

the fan said (and his wife agreed) that he goes to ballgames and sits right behind the opposition dugout JUST and ONLY so as he can scream insults t players

that is one sorry creature. not real too much of a man a tall. like i said back 20 years ago you don't see any kind of females doing that

this guy vs rendon is just as sorry

and of course rendon is not allowed to touch a fan no matter how bad he has it coming and those wanna be tough guys got it coming. of course rendon needs to get fined/suspended. you can't have the players getting physical with the fans

remember that old bugs bunny (i think) cartoon where the boy keeps poking the tiger in a cage with a stick? i know it is not real too Christian of me but theres sure times i wish the ballpark hecklers and internet goons suddenly discovered the tigers cage ain't got no bars
   58. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 03, 2023 at 05:13 PM (#6122471)

Disagree 100%. Players should never reach into the stands to put hands on a fan in anger. Never. Not ever. Not for any reason.

I think if a fan makes contact with a player and the player responds proportionately, that's ok. Sheffield wasn't punished for swiping back at a fan in the heat of the moment, and I think that was the right decision.
If he had gone into the stands and pummeled the guy that would not have been ok.
   59. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 03, 2023 at 06:00 PM (#6122476)
MLB announces Rendon gets a 5 game suspension
   60. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 03, 2023 at 06:07 PM (#6122478)
That's over $1million in pay, assuming he gets docked 5 days pay.
   61. Srul Itza Posted: April 03, 2023 at 10:13 PM (#6122512)
Reduced to 4 days after an appeal was filed and the parties settled.

Has there been any further reporting on what the fan did or said? Because it seems like something of an overreaction if all he said was \"#####\" (or "Beeyatch").

I mean, Rendon has been to New York, right? He has to have heard much worse, and there is no record of him going off there.
   62. Howie Menckel Posted: April 03, 2023 at 10:35 PM (#6122519)
fwiw, I've lived in the the greater NYC area all my life, and I would consider beeyatch to be quite high on the scale of "fighting words."

from the comments, I get the feeling that it's a different story in other locales, which I find interesting.

not justifying Rendon's actions, obviously. but to me, that word - like others even worse - seems designed to provoke a reaction.

I think we are in accord on "You suck" being pretty much standard issue insulting. the shouter not exactly covering himself in glory there, but it seems unlikely to provoke anything physical and probably even elicit a "F you" response only rarely.
   63. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 03, 2023 at 10:37 PM (#6122520)
Do suspensions still come with a commensurate loss in pay? Because that's a $857,000 fine. A bit more than snappy's naive $500.
   64. baxter Posted: April 04, 2023 at 12:59 AM (#6122541)
July 25, 1977; batting practice Chavez Ravine.

"Nice catch last night Bruce" to Mr. Boisclair after he dropped a foul ball the night before. If a certain keyboard warrior were not safely ensconced in the Pavilion and Mr. B's teammate had not restrained Mr. B from jumping into the stands (by wrapping his arms around Mr. B's waist as he began to scale the outfield wall), that certain keyboard warrior would not be around today (maybe a net benefit). Look, no swearing, no bad language, just a little thankful acknowledgement of great play

Here is the game:

Mets Bow, 5‐3, After an Error On ‘Last’ Out

https://www.nytimes.com/1977/07/25/archives/mets-bow-53-after-an-error-on-last-out-mets-fall-to-dodgers-53.html

As to Rendon, is his last name really Bevacqua? Because I would like to know what Tommy Lasanga felt about throwing at Rendon (who is starting to hit like Bevacqua). The Angels need some more tax breaks.
   65. shoelesjoe Posted: April 04, 2023 at 10:09 AM (#6122562)
Has there been any further reporting on what the fan did or said?


We don't know that the fan did or said anything. All we do know is what Rendon did and said. Earlier, I referenced the infamous Ron Artest incident in 2004. Artest went into the stands and attacked a fan who he thought had thrown a beer at him, when in fact the fan who Artest went after had done nothing. In this case Rendon apparently thought that this particular fan had hurled some ugly epithets his way during the game. But we have no idea if that fan (or any fan) said anything of the kind. Maybe Rendon misheard a relatively benign heckle by this fan, or something else that had nothing to do with him. Maybe Rendon was indeed the target of an ugly epithet, but from a completely different fan. Who knows? I'm assuming if such an insult was audible on the field of play then it was also audible to numerous other fans, ushers, and attendants in the stands. I don't know what the policy is in Oakland, but when I've gone to games in Tampa, Baltimore, and Detroit they make a point of warning fans that unruly behavior can result in them being removed from the park. If a fan is being truly abusive then that's a job for security, not some hot head in a baseball uniform.
   66. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 04, 2023 at 11:36 AM (#6122569)

fwiw, I've lived in the the greater NYC area all my life, and I would consider beeyatch to be quite high on the scale of "fighting words."

I agree, it's higher on the list, but it's definitely below the threshold where a player should be permitted to respond physically, or in general where a grown man shouldn't be able to restrain himself from doing so.
   67. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: April 04, 2023 at 02:52 PM (#6122589)
Ty Cobb was suspended for 10 games when he attacked a fan.

Yeah, but Cobb climbed into the stands, ran up several rows, and started actually beating on the guy. Also, the guy had no hands.


If the Rendon thing leads to the Angels sending out a group of sandlot schoolboys (including a future priest) into a game, I will literally die laughing...!
   68. Hombre Brotani Posted: April 04, 2023 at 03:35 PM (#6122595)
If the Rendon thing leads to the Angels sending out a group of sandlot schoolboys
The Angels tried that last year, and it wasn't funny at all!
   69. Lassus Posted: April 04, 2023 at 03:46 PM (#6122596)
and I would consider beeyatch to be quite high on the scale of "fighting words."

I get that apes and adolescents can understand words, but I'd put scale-reading beyond them.
   70. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 04, 2023 at 03:56 PM (#6122599)

I agree, it's higher on the list, but it's definitely below the threshold where a player should be permitted to respond physically...


If he calls you a "faggot" its all out war.
   71. Howie Menckel Posted: April 04, 2023 at 04:07 PM (#6122602)
If he calls you a "faggot" its all out war.

it was just a few months ago that I finished work early on a Thursday or Friday, so I stopped in at a local chain restaurant for the early part of happy hour.

I asked the bartender if he could put the Golf Channel on one of the TVs (I'm in a season-long golf pool - don't judge me !). for whatever reason, they put it on the TV directly to my left. ok, whatever.

so I'm watching the golf, and 20 minutes later another solo comes in and sits directly under the TV. So I'm back-and-forth watching and not watching - and this angers the guy sitting under the TV.

he asks, "What are you looking at?" and before I could explain - and frankly, make him look silly - he says, "Are you one of those 'faggots' or something?"

I pointed up to the TV and to my printout of my golf pool standings (hey, I'm old), but he didn't seem satisfied.

I bring the story up not only because there is the word oosted here, but because I haven't heard that word - or others like it - in real life in decades (thankfully). Only a handful of customers and I think two employees heard it.

Everyone who did hear it was in shock, basically (again, thankfully. I guess we have made some progress after all).

the bartender put the golf on the TV in my direct line of sight, so I didn't have to "look" at the guy again. I heard him mutter that same word again under his breath. When I finished up, I mentioned the latter point to the manager - who had heard the incident.

"Good," he said, "I was looking for an excuse to throw him out."

I would hope that in retrospect, he wishes he had done that immediately.
   72. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: April 05, 2023 at 09:50 AM (#6122675)
Do suspensions still come with a commensurate loss in pay? Because that's a $857,000 fine. A bit more than snappy's naive $500.


I think you could make a pretty good case that if Anthony Rendon drops $500 from his pocket onto the sidewalk, it would not make economic sense for him to take the time and effort to pick it up.
   73. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: April 05, 2023 at 09:50 AM (#6122676)
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   74. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: April 05, 2023 at 01:20 PM (#6122699)
So $25.5m comes out to $2900/hour, every day. So $48/minute. $4 every 5 seconds, which I estimate how long picking up and pocketing money would take. So I was being insanely hyperbolic.

But he absolutely should never use a coupon again.

   75. A triple short of the cycle Posted: April 05, 2023 at 09:17 PM (#6122802)
Of course I long ago stopped with picking up pennies. At this point I am ignoring nickels also. Dimes are next!

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