long covid is real. i feel bigly for this poor guy and am glad he opened up about it because a lot of guys won't

i know plenty of folks of different ethnicities/races and ages and $$$ and trump luvvvvvers who got it. and you don't always recover neither. there is brain problems and heart problems and kidney problems and stomach problems. and im sure theres plenty of other problems too.

i don't guess they actually know why so many people get long covid and why some people don't get better

this guy is lucky his family got $$$ and could take him somewhere good and even then he's still suffering for over a year

Walsh believes that COVID-19 could have played a role in his issues.

So...this is Trump's fault, right?

trump luvvvvvers who got it

Yep.

That's NOT what she was saying. She's saying it doesn't matter what you believe, or who you believe in, or how much you have, the S--t is real, with real bad consequences for a sizable percentage of the population.

I worry about all my grandkids. I have 6 of them, ages, 2,3,6,9,11,&16;
They've all had multiple confirmed Covid infections. God knows what's in store for them down the road. :(

I worry for the everyone else's kids and grandkids, and young people in general too. Screw us old f__kk___s. For us it is what it is.....by the time the full long term effects are known more fully we'll be dead and gone anyway.

i don't guess they actually know why so many people get long covid and why some people don't get better

the short answer, last i heard (i'm not a medical researcher - i do know a long covid researcher but have not checked in with them in awhile on this), is that they don't. there are known risk factors and theories about mechanisms but it's early.
we do know that this kind of thing is something we are TERRIBLE at diagnosing and treating (look at lyme disease or chronic fatigue for examples on a much smaller scale).
here's an article that i thought was decent: Where are the treatments for Long COVID?

From what I've read COVID doesn't have long term effects that are any different than lots of respiratory infections. That's not to say that there isn't "long COVID", just that it's probably no more prevalent than "long X" where X is any other serious respiratory disease.

Long story short, respiratory diseases can have serious long term effects; this is not something new with COVID.

From what I've read COVID doesn't have long term effects that are any different than lots of respiratory infections.

My long-time friend was an infection disease specialist for Los Angeles county for years. She quit after 2021 and hasn't worked since. #### like this is the reason why. No matter what her quals are, nothing she says can beat "from what I've read...."

Walsh believes that COVID-19 could have played a role in his issues.
So...this is Trump's fault, right?

Troll harder.

COVID can manifest itself in many ways that are not respiratory, and some people never have respiratory symptoms at all. But sure, let's call it a respiratory infection. Much is not known about it at all.

From what I've read COVID doesn't have long term effects that are any different than lots of respiratory infections.

beyond that the effects here appear to be more diverse (and setting aside that other respiratory infections may not be the best comp), there's the prevalence issue (covid rates were super duper high compared to many other infections) and, of course, the unknown of it all. (which you can take in a variety of ways, some positive.)
i also think that the idea that "other infections also have 'long versions'" is a mixed bag. it's good in that those effects are already baked in to our health care system, it's bad in that we do an awful job of measuring or treating them. (this is not meant as an particular indictment of the us health care system - no systems are good at this.)
we do know that our system is now failing some stress tests, with many caregivers leaving the industry when we will need more of them for the foreseeable future (and not just because of covid - population is still aging, still with a lot of comorbidities).

RMC

so sorry i was not real too clear. goodness youda thought i said tigers suck or something

let me try again -

human beings, straight, gay, other, any size, any age, any race, any religious blief including none a tall, thin, fat, couch potato, elite athlete, smart dumb and all folks in between or any combo

ANY human can get long covid which can last a month, year, forever or anywheres in between.

- as for trump - i wish he had worn a mask and not said all that seriously STOOPID stuff about bleach and ivermectin (which is what you give dogz to treat mange and covid ain't mange). i REALLY applaud him bigly for operation warp speed and his "beautiful vaccine" which i wish he had bigly urged his acolytes to take with the covfefe

hombre

- i'm tired of the "from what i've read" just as much as your friend. far as i am concerned internet influencers are as believable as some guy asplain to me how he respeck me in the morning.
- that said
it is mah not so umble opinyin that the govt does its very best to ignore any disease/condition that is long term that don't have no positive test result.
like long covid. like chronic fatigue. like anything else you can't give a drug for. because it costs $$$$$

btw - on another subject,
hombre,
i owe you an apology bigly yuge
like 15 or something years ago, i told you i could not bleeve there was such a thing as prejudice against asians. (by Whites, i mean. i knew dammm well WE had plenty of prejudice)

i was bigly yuge RONGGGGG and i wish it was you bigly yuge rongggg but nope. i am very sorry for my ignorance

everyone else sorry for changing the subject but it was necessary

My long-time friend was an infection disease specialist for Los Angeles county for years. She quit after 2021 and hasn't worked since. #### like this is the reason why. No matter what her quals are, nothing she says can beat "from what I've read...."

I could be wrong but I do not think he was saying it was not a big deal or that it was not happening. Long Covid is more in the news because a ton of people got Covid and we are seeing a lot of cases of long Covid. As to whether or not it is MORE prevalent than other raspatory illnesses I think it is possible that is the case, but will probably not be figured out for a while.

I have never been diagnosed with Covid, have had 5 tests over the first year+ of covid, all came back negative, at the same time I wonder if my medical issues of late might have some link to covid. (congestive heart failure, memory/brain issues, blackouts/whiteouts, pneumonia, etc)

covid is not a respiratory illness. it infects a lot more places including blood vessels

what respiratory illness (virus) causes long anything? a respiratory virus has to just infect ears, nose, throat, lungs and nothing else, so no cheating with epstine barr or something like that

Walsh believes that COVID-19 could have played a role in his issues.
So...this is Trump's fault, right?

Troll harder.

Not at all. Never liked the man for anything except his entertainment value, which is wearing thin.

goodness youda thought i said tigers suck or something

That's a bit like saying "water is wet". (Although, they are playing surprisingly unhorrible at the moment...)

I've been extremely lucky, COVID-wise: I got "short COVID" in Jan 2021; I felt bad for maybe a day. (Tested positive for two weeks, tho.) My wife has never had it (knock wood), even though she's a schoolteacher.

For some subset of the population, long covid seems to act as a "multiplier effect" on other health issues. Walsh's issues sound like they may not originate as long covid, but they likely are being amplified by having covid in the past.

This is going to impact more and more of the population as time goes on. The gift that keeps on giving. U.S. life expectancy may take a looooong time to bounce back from the recent drops.

cfb

you prolly DO have long covid. i know a couple people who gone the way you did. also people who had some kind of "mild cold" or just a bad headache for a few days and then a couple months later had liver failure or kidney failure or have heart problems. 2 were late 50s - one had high blood and the other was, um, not thin, and 2 more were young healthy people in the 20s without nothing wrong with them. thing is you can't PROVE it came from covid. who gets tested a bunch of times without being real sick.

i know more who knew they were sick but not that sick with positive covid test but never got better including one who has trouble standing up and walking, and another whose brain is bad and the memory is so bad they can't work or do pretty much anything kind of like alzheimers at age 28

me i still wear a mask everywhere because i don't want no covid and i might could WANT things to be like they used to be but not happening

[I get nervous posting about COVID because I think it's pretty important to get stuff right and not spread misinformation and I am not a scientist or public health worker.]

I also still mask, but it's more about not wanting to risk infecting others ... I don't know who at, say, the grocery store is immunocompromised and whatnot and the act of wearing a mask is near costless for me (they don't bother me for the first few hours). That said, I don't know anyone else beyond my partner (an epidemiologist) and a few other health researchers who still do so. (Note: though I never masked pre-COVID - never considered it - non-COVID stuff now enters my calculus, like if flu season is raging or whatever.)

The other thing in that calculus that is specific to COVID is trying to get a handle on what the transmission rate is at a given point of time. (Here, I defer to a friend who monitors levels in wastewater - testing has kind of collapsed.) For a long time, people had stopped (partly because both political parties were trying to minimize the risks) masking or taking other precautions even though transmission rates were still really high. They're not really high right now... it would now be eminently "reasonable" not to mask (all this stuff is "imo") and whatnot in many situations where I would have not thought so a few months ago. But, me? I still mask if I'm just going to be at the grocery store for 30 min or whatever. Can't hurt, might help.

what respiratory illness (virus) causes long anything?

There are some, they just don't actually put the word 'long' on them. They modify the name with 'Chronic' typically.

Yeah, I am not an expert but I think a number of factors can trigger myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS). I've seen people write about long COVID and ME/CFS kind of interchangeably, with the notion that COVID is just another trigger for ME/CFS -- but because most of the population got infected with COVID at some point, there are a *lot* of "long COVID" cases out there.

One thing that I learned during the pandemic is that a lot of diseases that we think of as chronic/severe are actually only that way in a small percentage of cases. For example, polio is asymptomatic in nearly 3/4 of childhood cases and mild in nearly 1/4. It's only about 1-5% that have severe symptoms and 0.1%-0.5% that have the paralysis that we typically associate with polio.

there were obvious neurological warning signs for this alleged "jered", years before covid was even a thing. i mean, he couldn't even spell his first name correctly.

there were obvious neurological warning signs for this alleged "jered", years before covid was even a thing. i mean, he couldn't even spell his first name correctly.

I think I like the more jovial Stiggles.

At the risk of adding to things people read on the Internet...

Mrs. Pope got COVID just over a year ago. Mild symptoms, got better quickly. However, the next week her plantar fasciitis flared up. She had had one instance of that, about 4 years ago. No problems since then. She talked about it to her physical therapist and the PT said that she has seen a lot of people who get COVID and then immediately some old issue crops up. One patient had a lot of pain where they had broken their arm a decade before. One patient had patellar tendinitis that had cleared up with physical therapy and all of a sudden came back. Her feeling was that COVID seemed to attack people wherever they were weak, mostly having nothing to do with anything respiratory.

Obviously these are anecdotes, so who knows. I'm sure that patellar tendinitis flares up in people all the time and the person may only have noticed it happened after having COVID. But there are a lot of stories out there and I don't know if it's being adequately studied.

it's being studied (i've literally read a draft on a tangential paper), studies just take time
kind of related - this tweet (disease research by topic, over time)

[22]:

it could be scurvy.