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Wednesday, September 30, 2020

As Marlins prepare for postseason, is the franchise turning a corner under Derek Jeter?

And, three years into the regime of owner Bruce Sherman and CEO Derek Jeter, they’re actually pretty good. Thirty-one wins isn’t a juggernaut, but what about 31 wins when 18 roster spots were changed out between games three and four? What about 31 wins when the Philadelphia Phillies had 28, and the New York Mets and Washington Nationals had 26? There’s something about showing up and playing hard, about finding a few wins where others are finding alibis, about taking the first wobbly steps toward turning the course — and reputation — of a franchise that only recently became deserving of that sort of effort.

So, on the sixth anniversary of a day he was the designated hitter in Boston and did not play shortstop and legged out an infield single and was pinch run for by a catcher and then never played again, Derek Jeter was on a Zoom call — audio only — explaining that it has been a long road, that there might be something good out there, that this alone — a best-of-three in Chicago starting Wednesday afternoon — ain’t it. Then, after the first two years of his CEO-ship ended in last place (by a lot), there’d be nothing awfully wrong with second place either.

“When we first got here, look, from the outside looking in, and I lived on the other side of Florida for 20-plus years, you heard stories about the fanbase here and the lack of trust,” he said. “When I got here, I said, listen, we’re here to listen to you. I can’t tell you I’m going to make your experience better if I don’t know what your experience has been. I can’t expect you to trust me if you don’t know me. We have to earn your trust. And I think slowly but surely we’re starting to earn the trust. But we still have a long way to go.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 30, 2020 at 09:44 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: September 30, 2020 at 06:17 PM (#5979969)
Screw them. Their negligence almost cost us the 2020 season. For some reason they're everyone's darlings now.
   2. The Yankee Clapper Posted: September 30, 2020 at 07:12 PM (#5979981)
Well, the Marlins did significantly outperform expectations. Maybe I missed it, but I don’t recall anyone suggesting they would make the playoffs during the offseason, spring training, or summer camp, and especially not when much of the team came down with the 2020 plague early in the season. Of course, whether they have actually turned a corner depends on if they can keep up the momentum next season under what should [hopefully] be more normal conditions.
   3. JRVJ Posted: September 30, 2020 at 09:09 PM (#5980023)
The Marlins have an insanely low payroll next year (according to BRef, they only have $15MM committed to two players next year, and only 4 players in arbitration, all of which are in their final year).

They should be turning an operating profit this year, even without the 17 fans in the stands they were getting last year, and should have money to invest next year.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: September 30, 2020 at 10:33 PM (#5980054)
I know they're uncommon in the US but I'm guessing the Marlins are stuck in a roundabout and will be heading back down then in the same direction they were before too long.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 30, 2020 at 10:33 PM (#5980055)
The 2019 Marlins had a 60-game stretch from May 17 to July 26 where they went 29-31 in a season where they ultimately lost 105 games, so I'm not sure I'm ready to crown their ass this season.
   6. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 30, 2020 at 11:30 PM (#5980088)
Fact: the Marlins have not lost a playoff series in their franchise history. Doubt it lasts this year.
   7. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: October 01, 2020 at 01:08 AM (#5980118)
I live in a city with over 100 roundabouts and nearly once a week I see a car w Florida plates going around and around. I'll need to see if its Jetes.
   8. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: October 01, 2020 at 01:24 AM (#5980124)
It's easy to hate on Jeter, but considering the significant Latin American population in South Florida, it's a good thing for baseball if somehow the Marlins turn into a respectable and competitive franchise. I hope his moves pan out.
   9. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: October 01, 2020 at 01:31 AM (#5980125)
considering the significant Latin American population in South Florida, it's a good thing for baseball if somehow the Marlins turn into a respectable and competitive franchise
I mean, that’s pretty much been the point, and the goal, since 1993. Hasn’t really worked yet.
   10. Fiore Gino Posted: October 01, 2020 at 08:22 AM (#5980140)
A Marlins/Astros World Series would be a horrific scenario
   11. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 01, 2020 at 11:10 AM (#5980186)

I've been thinking for a while that this feels like the kind of season that the Marlins are going to win the World Series. And it still feels that way.

That being said...

They had a 26-34 Pythagorean record this season.

Their best hitter was a 31-year-old SS who outperformed his career OPS+ by 59 points this year (141 vs. 82).

Sixto Sanchez appears to be the real deal, but the rest of their rotation looks like they outperformed expectations.

So I agree with Walt.
   12. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: October 01, 2020 at 07:13 PM (#5980359)
I'm not sure I'm ready to crown their ass this season.

If you did, I'm sure they'd send you a gift basket...
   13. Howie Menckel Posted: October 01, 2020 at 08:02 PM (#5980372)
Marlins 2020 ERA Title Qualifiers (60 IP minimum)





   14. Howie Menckel Posted: October 01, 2020 at 08:05 PM (#5980373)
20 NL pitchers qualified (or 23 if 59.6 IP counts) - 4 of them Cubs (2nd, 7th, 17th, 19th)

Rockies were 13th, 15th, 16th

leader Bauer 1.73, trailer Cueto 5.40
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: October 01, 2020 at 09:52 PM (#5980395)
Marlins 2020 ERA Title Qualifiers (60 IP minimum)


And only one Cardinal (the ancient workhorse Wainwright did it, but no one on the rest of the staff was remotely close). The fact the Marlins and Cardinals each lost more than a week of games, and had to jam those makeup games into 7 and 11 doubleheaders, was going to make it much harder for their starters to reach the requisite innings thresholds. In contrast, the Cubs played four double dips and the Rockies only played one.

   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: October 01, 2020 at 10:27 PM (#5980407)
Marlins 2020 ERA Title Qualifiers (60 IP minimum)
The lack of any staff workhorses should add to Mattingly’s Manager of the Year credentials. More difficult to continually scramble to put a staff together than to pencil in established starters every 5th day.
   17. DJS Thinks Apples and Oranges are Similar Posted: October 02, 2020 at 02:27 AM (#5980489)
Screw them. Their negligence almost cost us the 2020 season. For some reason they're everyone's darlings now.

Yeah, some people act like COVID-19 spread was something that just happened to them that they heroically overcame.

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