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Thursday, September 23, 2021

Atlanta Braves’ Adam Duvall has home run nixed after baserunning gaffe

Adam Duvall passed teammate Austin Riley while running the bases after a drive over the wall in left-center, costing the Atlanta Braves slugger his 38th homer of the season.

Duvall was ultimately credited with a two-run single on the bizarre first-inning play in Wednesday night’s 9-2 win over the Arizona Diamondbacks. It happened because Riley thought the ball had been caught.

With runners on first and third and one out, Duvall hit a deep fly ball off Merrill Kelly. Arizona center fielder Jake McCarthy leaped near the wall, and the ball deflected off his glove and into the first row of seats.

Riley, thinking McCarthy had the ball in his glove, retreated to first base as Duvall passed him between first and second. Duvall was ruled out at second on what’s known as a “runner’s fielder’s choice.” Freddie Freeman and Riley scored on the play to give Duvall 109 RBIs this season, which leads the National League.

“I wasn’t sure [McCarthy] didn’t catch it,” Braves manager Brian Snitker said. “You may be making the right play, but if the guy in front of you doesn’t, you’ve got to be aware of it. It’s not a bad rule at all.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 23, 2021 at 09:05 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 23, 2021 at 10:50 AM (#6041229)
Might cost him the MVP.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 23, 2021 at 11:00 AM (#6041234)
Nah, he’s still leading in RBIs.
   3. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: September 23, 2021 at 12:04 PM (#6041247)
Adam Duvall is sort of the spirit-animal for 2021 baseball isn't he? He's got 37 HRs but only 65 runs scored. Slugging >500 but about a 5-1 K/BB ratio.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: September 23, 2021 at 12:13 PM (#6041250)
Isn't this the third time this season a guy has lost a homer by passing a guy on the paths? I know Bellinger had one, and I thought it happened later to someone else.

Edit: Perhaps I'm thinking of the Pirate who lost one for missing first base.

   5. bfan Posted: September 23, 2021 at 12:16 PM (#6041253)
any word on whether the umpire made a clear call that would have helped the situation. The article mentions that Brian Snitker didn't know whether the ball had been caught, but Snitker is sitting in the dugout and doesn't have the responsibility to let people know what is happening on the field, as the umpire does.
   6. VCar Posted: September 23, 2021 at 02:28 PM (#6041312)
Adam Duvall is sort of the spirit-animal for 2021 baseball isn't he? He's got 37 HRs but only 65 runs scored.


reminds me of Brooks Jacoby around '87: 32 HR but only 69 rbi's
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: September 23, 2021 at 02:59 PM (#6041314)
Adam Duvall is sort of the spirit-animal for 2021 baseball isn't he? He's got 37 HRs but only 65 runs scored.
reminds me of Brooks Jacoby around '87: 32 HR but only 69 rbi's
Ironically, Duvall leads the league in RBI.
   8. The Honorable Ardo Posted: September 23, 2021 at 08:58 PM (#6041388)
It's the third lost homer on a baserunning gaffe this year, after Bellinger and Hayes. Retrosheet only lists three for the entirety of the 2010s.
   9. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: September 23, 2021 at 09:35 PM (#6041396)
any word on whether the umpire made a clear call that would have helped the situation. The article mentions that Brian Snitker didn't know whether the ball had been caught, but Snitker is sitting in the dugout and doesn't have the responsibility to let people know what is happening on the field, as the umpire does.


I just watched the replay on GameDay and I don’t think the umps knew if it got out so they didn’t make a call. I’d compare it to an ump telling the catcher to show him the ball on a tag play at the plate. I’m really not sure there is a lot of blame anywhere here. If you watch it its tough to tell. On replay what happened was the ball hit off the outfielder’s glove and popped over the wall, it wouldn’t have gone out if it hadn’t hit his glove (think Dave Henderson inthe 1986 ALCS). Riley maybe could have held up before running past Duvall, he was close enough to first base that he would have gotten back easily and hell Duvall, could have gone back to first so Riley would only be a step away.

But that’s a lot to ask in the heat of the moment. It’s just a tough tough situation. I guess with replay the ump should probably just make an immediate call and let replay sort it out.
   10. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: September 24, 2021 at 05:05 PM (#6041505)
Players who run past teammates on the base paths are dumbasses. You stop. You don't run past him. You tell him to turn around and continue. It's not hard. Pay ####### attention to what's in front of you.
   11. Jose Canusee Posted: September 24, 2021 at 08:38 PM (#6041532)
The Braves did this before when they broke up Haddix's no-hitter in the 13th. Some teams never learn.
   12. filihok Posted: September 25, 2021 at 12:09 AM (#6041590)
This is an unnecessary rule
   13. sunday silence (again) Posted: September 25, 2021 at 12:57 AM (#6041592)


The Braves did this before when they broke up Haddix's no-hitter in the 13th. Some teams never learn.


From Wikipedia:

In 1989, during a banquet attended by players from both teams commemorating the game's 30th anniversary, Milwaukee pitcher Bob Buhl told Haddix that the Braves' bullpen had stolen signs from Smoky Burgess, the Pittsburgh catcher, who was exposing them due to a high crouch. From their bullpen, the Braves pitchers repeatedly repositioned a towel to signal for a fastball or a breaking ball, the only two pitches Haddix used in the game.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2021 at 08:31 AM (#6041595)

This is an unnecessary rule


So should all baserunners be allowed to pass each other on the bases, or is it just on home runs (and possibly automatic doubles) where it should be acceptable?

But I disagree regardless. When you hit a homer, you have very few obligations to follow - don't pass anyone and touch all the bases. That's what constitutes a run, and you should be held to that minimum standard.
   15. Mike A Posted: September 25, 2021 at 01:08 PM (#6041613)
To be fair, Duvall was in his HR trot because it was...a HR.

He basically stopped as he was rounding 1st because he realized the HR had not been called a HR. Riley then 'reverse-passed' him running back to first to avoid being doubled up.

It was a difficult situation, and I'm not sure anyone is truly to blame, though I do think the umps could have ruled the HR sooner.

At least ump chief Sam Holbrook didn't call the IF fly rule on the play. /still bitter.
   16. Ron J Posted: September 25, 2021 at 02:35 PM (#6041623)
#14 I mean baseball could adopt the same kind of rules as a 6 in cricket. Hit it clean out and the runs are credited and you move on.

It's just very, very low on the list of changes baseball should even be considering.
   17. Jay Z Posted: September 25, 2021 at 05:47 PM (#6041641)
So should all baserunners be allowed to pass each other on the bases, or is it just on home runs (and possibly automatic doubles) where it should be acceptable?

But I disagree regardless. When you hit a homer, you have very few obligations to follow - don't pass anyone and touch all the bases. That's what constitutes a run, and you should be held to that minimum standard.


Maybe runners, after they currently score, should be able to go around the bases again. Three runs if you make it around twice, none if you fail on the second attempt. Also, runners can pass each other forward or backward. And go around the bases in either direction.

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