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Tuesday, November 23, 2021

Baker Bowl Brawl: “Lefty” Weinert Battles Casey Stengel to a Draw

On May 7, 1923, Weinert was called into a game against the Giants at Baker Bowl in the top of the first inning. Lee Meadows, the Phillies starting pitcher had already given up five runs without recording an out. Weinert worked his way out of the inning, allowing one more run. The Phillies were behind 6-0 before coming to bat.

In the second inning, Weinert got the first two outs, when Casey Stengel came to the plate. It was the first time Weinert had ever faced Stengel. At this point in his career Stengel, a left-handed batter, was platooned and rarely faced left-handed pitching. Weinert and Stengel had been teammates for a brief time in 1920 and 21 with the Phillies, before the Phillies traded Stengel to the Giants. Stengel was not a happy player with the Phillies and whether there was any bad blood between Weinert and Stengel is not clear. At any rate, Weinert promptly plunked Stengel on the shoulder with a pitch. An unhappy Stengel took his place at first base. The New York Daily News reported that Weinert hit Stengel “accidentally.”

Weinert singled and scored on a Walter Holke double in the second, but the Giants got to Weinert for three more runs in the third and the score stood at 9-1 as the Giants came to bat in the fourth. With one out Stengel came to the plate again. The first pitch was high and tight. Stengel had seen enough. He threw his bat at Weinert and then charged the mound, and, according to the Jewish Baseball Museum, was spewing anit-semitic epithets on the way.** Weinert met him as he came out and “after a brief exchange of taunts” the two grappled and hammered each other with body blows as their teammates tried futilely to break them apart. Finally, four of Philadelphia’s Finest had to come out of the stands to break up the fracas.

Both Stengel and Weinert were “banished in disgrace by umpires McCormick and Derr.” The Giants eventually won the game 13-8. After reviewing the umpires’ report on the fighting incident, National League President, John Heydler, suspended Stengel for 10 games. Weinert was not suspended. Whether this incident earned Stengel a place in manager John McGraw’s doghouse, or whether he was injured in the fracas is not known, but Stengel did not start another game for the Giants for two months.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 23, 2021 at 10:02 AM | 3 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Rough Carrigan Posted: November 23, 2021 at 10:07 AM (#6054221)
Weinert must've really hit Stengel hard. Afterward the writers couldn't make heads or tails out of what he was saying.
   2. Jose Canusee Posted: November 24, 2021 at 04:59 AM (#6054444)
I appreciate views into the earlier lives of famous old (meaning people who are remembered for how they were in later years) timers like Stengel who is characterized as either a young clown with a bird in his cap or a baseball Yoda as a manager.
Like the other post about Bill Virdon who I remember as a manager, not a Gold Glove center fielder.
   3. Perry Posted: November 24, 2021 at 03:50 PM (#6054503)
I appreciate views into the earlier lives of famous old (meaning people who are remembered for how they were in later years) timers like Stengel who is characterized as either a young clown with a bird in his cap or a baseball Yoda as a manager.


There's a story about Stengel taking Mantle out to show him how to play the OF at Ebbets Field before a World Series and Mantle saying something like "Wait a minute, skip. You played?" And Stengel saying "They think I was born 60 years old."

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