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Monday, May 31, 2021

Baltimore Orioles ‘trying to keep our head up’ as losing skid hits 14 in loss to Minnesota Twins

Rob Refsnyder bounced back from a run-in with the center-field fence to score the go-ahead run in the 10th inning on a wild pitch and the Minnesota Twins handed the Baltimore Orioles their 14th straight loss, 3-2 on Monday.

The Orioles’ skid ties for second-longest in team history - they also dropped 14 in a row in 1954, the season the club moved from St. Louis to Baltimore. The Orioles’ worst losing streak came in 1988 when they lost their first 21 games of the year.

It’s the longest losing drought in the majors since the Astros lost 15 in a row in 2013.

“It’s been tough last couple weeks, but we’re trying to keep our head up and trying to keep playing hard,” said Ryan Mountcastle, who homered for Baltimore’s run. “We’ve been in a lot of close games and we’ve just got to try to turn the page and move on to the next one and hopefully win tomorrow.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: May 31, 2021 at 11:20 PM | 22 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Doug Jones threw harder than me Posted: June 01, 2021 at 12:13 AM (#6021733)
I know it's an easy joke, but since I believe it's been 60 days since he was placed on the IL:

"Activate Chris Davis!"
   2. Walt Davis Posted: June 01, 2021 at 01:11 AM (#6021746)
48 to 93 run differential during the streak which, as you probably guessed, is not good. Still 13-6 and 10-1 are the only really embarrassing scores in the stretch. Poor John Means -- 11 starts, 210 ERA+ and only 4-1 record. Still better than deGrom usually gets. (Not a big mystery who the O's All-Star will be this year.)
   3. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 01, 2021 at 08:27 AM (#6021757)
If you throw out 2020, the Orioles are on track to lose 100 games for the third straight season. The 1938-42 Phillies hold the record with five, but the more interesting streak was by the Boston Doves, the Boston Rustlers and the Boston Braves, a team that between 1909 and 1912 had five different managers and three different names, but still managed to lose 100 or more games every year.

Of course the 1962-65 Mets matched those Boston teams with four straight 100-loss seasons, but those were the Mets, so it really doesn't even count. None of the other expansion teams ever had even three straight 100-loss seasons, nor did the St. Louis Browns.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: June 01, 2021 at 08:38 AM (#6021758)
The 1938-42 Phillies hold the record with five, but the more interesting streak was by the Boston Doves, the Boston Rustlers and the Boston Braves, a team that between 1909 and 1912 had five different managers and three different names, but still managed to lose 100 or more games every year.

Of course the 1962-65 Mets matched those Boston teams with four straight 100-loss seasons, but those were the Mets, so it really doesn't even count.
All 3 of those teams won the pennant within a decade, so there is hope for the O's!
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: June 01, 2021 at 08:41 AM (#6021759)
None of the other expansion teams ever had even three straight 100-loss seasons,


The 2011-13 Astros did (they actually lost 105-plus for three straight), just fifty years after their expansion days.

And they also won a pennant within the decade.
   6. bunyon Posted: June 01, 2021 at 09:38 AM (#6021767)
The Astros won pennants within a decade of either side of that three year run. Impressive.

This is the O's, though. They're going to suck for a long while.
   7. escabeche Posted: June 01, 2021 at 12:43 PM (#6021821)
The Orioles were contenders right before this current period of terribleness!
   8. RJ in TO Posted: June 01, 2021 at 01:03 PM (#6021825)
None of the other expansion teams ever had even three straight 100-loss seasons
The Jays lost 100+ in their first three years, barely missed it in their fourth, and would have lost 100+ in their fifth, if not for the strike.
   9. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: June 01, 2021 at 01:22 PM (#6021832)
The Orioles were contenders right before this current period of terribleness!


Call it the Curse of Jimenez. Or maybe the Curse of Showalter. Or maybe just curse them both.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 01, 2021 at 01:54 PM (#6021836)
Years it took for those above-mentioned teams to win at least a division title:

1909-12 Bostons: 2 years to win the World Series.
1938-42 Phillies: 8 years to win a pennant.
1962-65 Mets: 4 years to win the World Series.
1977-81 Blue Jays: 4 years to win the AL East, 11 years to win a pennant and a World Series.
2011-13 Astros: 4 years to win a World Series.

Maybe the Orioles could jump-start their recovery period by becoming the Baltimore Rustlers.
   11. escabeche Posted: June 01, 2021 at 02:52 PM (#6021850)
No real reason a team built around Cedric Mullins, John Means, Adley Rutschman, Hunter Harvey, and Greyson Rodriguez couldn't be fine a couple of years from now
   12. shoelesjoe Posted: June 01, 2021 at 03:44 PM (#6021859)
This is the O's, though. They're going to suck for a long while.


Don’t be so sure. Their AA and A Ball teams have a bunch of guys on their rosters that are killing it right now. Give the organization a couple more years of development and the #1 or #2 pick in 2022 and the Orioles could turn things around as quickly as the Astros did.
   13. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: June 01, 2021 at 04:40 PM (#6021863)
Does having their heads up their asses count as keeping their heads up?

Wait, that's the Pirates.
   14. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: June 01, 2021 at 05:18 PM (#6021876)
Maybe the Orioles could jump-start their recovery period by becoming the Baltimore Rustlers.

How 'bout the Baltimore Hustlers?

the Orioles could turn things around as quickly as the Astros did.

So that's why they ordered all those extra garbage cans...
   15. BillWallace Posted: June 01, 2021 at 05:39 PM (#6021880)
I'm happy with the way the Os are being run.

They had the worst major league roster and one of the very worst farm systems when new management took over. They're building up the farm system and all accounts are that they're doing a good job and it's going well. The low minors are killing it and the org is going to starting moving into the top 5-10 of prospect value if they aren't there already.

At the major league level they are obviously still terrible, but:

1) Their record undersells them a bit as they are not the worst team in the league and the record is significantly worse than their WAR

2) They've made an effort to fill out the lineup with legit major league quality players, rather than just throw out some random aged-out non-prospect. In spots where they've had guys worth giving time to in order to figure out if they have value (like DJ Stewart) they have, and where they had no one worth playing, they went out and picked up Maikel Franco and Freddy Galvis. Galvis is playing great and may even generate a return at the deadline if someone needs a SS.

It still adds up to a pretty bad major league roster, but that was always going to happen. If you follow the team, there is plenty of reason to look forward.
   16. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: June 01, 2021 at 10:36 PM (#6021917)
The Orioles are undefeated this month.
   17. The Honorable Ardo Posted: June 01, 2021 at 10:57 PM (#6021923)
The Orioles are undefeated this month.
That's like the Tigers starting 2-0. In their defense, Detroit is playing good ball lately behind strong starting pitching.
   18. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: June 02, 2021 at 12:09 PM (#6022049)
Westburg promoted to Aberdeen yesterday. He and Henderson had been splitting time at SS/3B at Delmarva. Now both can play SS, as they did last night. If one of them can stick there they look like the left side of the future.
   19. SoSH U at work Posted: June 02, 2021 at 12:42 PM (#6022063)
That's like the Tigers starting 2-0.


Or like the Orioles starting 3-0.

   20. The Honorable Ardo Posted: June 02, 2021 at 04:00 PM (#6022137)
I looked at the 2013 Astros. The most astounding fact about that team was they had Jonathan Villar and J.D. Martinez - both of whom they gave away for, in effect, nothing! Imagine if they'd held onto them.
   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: June 02, 2021 at 10:28 PM (#6022231)
Well, Villar would've been riding the bench behind Correa and Altuve.
   22. DL from MN Posted: June 02, 2021 at 11:28 PM (#6022252)
Well, the Twins fixed that

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