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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Baltimore Sun: O’s Luke Scott takes issue with MLB gun ban

Even after Horwitzing his own head…Crazy Luke Graham made more sense.

Orioles designated hitter Luke Scott understands the purpose behind Major League Baseball’s recent directive prohibiting guns and other deadly weapons from clubhouses, and said he’ll abide by it. He just doesn’t agree with the ban.

“I don’t think that everyone else should pay for the mistakes of a few,” said Scott, one of baseball’s most vocal gun rights proponents. “There is a good reason behind the rule, I can’t deny that. The reason is you cannot trust 25 guys in a locker room to have the same respect and training as I do with a weapon. That I do understand. I’ve carried a gun for 10 years. I’ve carried them in the locker room, and nobody really knows about it. I know how to handle myself, and I stow it away where nobody really knows about it.”

...Scott said he wasn’t aware of the MLB rule until very recently.

“We have good security,” Scott said. “It’s hard to get in here. Barring a tactical entry where terrorists come in and hold us hostage, that’s about the only thing that could possibly warrant me carrying a gun in the clubhouse. That’s highly unlikely, and I admit that. But my personal belief is I don’t want to suffer from the poor choices of others.”

 

Repoz Posted: February 27, 2010 at 12:26 PM | 31 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: orioles, special topics

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   1. Leroy Kincaid Posted: February 27, 2010 at 01:36 PM (#3469249)
"People with guns don't understand. That's why they have guns - too many misunderstandings."
   2. Flynn Posted: February 27, 2010 at 01:40 PM (#3469251)
I just really want these guys to bring guns into the clubhouse under the pretense of protesting and get a fat suspension for it.

If you and your gun are like Linus and his blanket then go to therapy. If not then stop whining.
   3. Eugene Freedman Posted: February 27, 2010 at 01:47 PM (#3469252)
I stow it away where nobody really knows about it

I wonder if he knows enough about guns that he puts in a locked gunsafe in his locker. Just stashing under his clothes isn't good enough. Because people now know about it.
   4. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 27, 2010 at 01:54 PM (#3469253)
I just really want these guys to bring guns into the clubhouse under the pretense of protesting and get a fat suspension for it.

If you and your gun are like Linus and his blanket then go to therapy. If not then stop whining.


I'd agree, unless he shoots Angelos. No Baltimore jury would ever convict him.
   5. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: February 27, 2010 at 02:04 PM (#3469254)
I wonder if he knows enough about guns that he puts in a locked gunsafe in his locker. Just stashing under his clothes isn't good enough. Because people now know about it.


Maybe he hides it on the field where only he and Reggie Jackson can find it.
   6. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: February 27, 2010 at 02:30 PM (#3469257)
He

must kill

Mel Queen
   7. Lassus Posted: February 27, 2010 at 02:47 PM (#3469258)
"But my personal belief is I don’t want to suffer from the poor choices of others.”

I think this is kind of why they have the ban on guns in the clubhouse, Luke.
   8. Don Lock Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:02 PM (#3469265)
I assume Luke brings handguns to the clubhouse for good reasons; mediating teammates' card games, acting as final arbiter on "Who would you do" debates, and intimidating clubhouse attendants. Perhaps a rodent infestation in the locker room? Pigeons in the bleachers?

Before and after the games, he may go target practicing or display his arsenal to impress groupies. I don't think he has a permit to carry but he might need protection when visiting Baltimore's famous Block after late games at Camden Yards.

Can he get on airplanes with guns in his luggage? Are visiting clubhouses also an armed stronghold?
   9. worm Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:11 PM (#3469271)
If it were just about any other profession, I'd agree with him 100%. Until the players can grow up and stop throwing baseballs at each other/smashing things in the dugout, they deserve to be treated like children.

I assume Luke brings handguns to the clubhouse for good reasons; mediating teammates' card games, acting as final arbiter on "Who would you do" debates, and intimidating clubhouse attendants. Perhaps a rodent infestation in the locker room? Pigeons in the bleachers?

Before and after the games, he may go target practicing or display his arsenal to impress groupies. I don't think he has a permit to carry but he might need protection when visiting Baltimore's famous Block after late games at Camden Yards.


I'm sure all the victims at Virginia Tech, Columbine, Dnepropetrovsk, Red Lake and the dozens of other shootings in the past decade or two felt the exact same way.
   10. Eugene Freedman Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:14 PM (#3469272)
If it were just about any other profession, I'd agree with him 100%. Until the players can grow up and stop throwing baseballs at each other/smashing things in the dugout, they deserve to be treated like children.


So you're saying that other employers should be able to restrict their employees from carrying guns onto the employer's private property?
   11. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:15 PM (#3469273)
I don't think he has a permit to carry...

Not that I really think he has much to complain about here, but I would assume that Scott does in fact have a carry permit. They aren't that hard to get, and he'd have to be an idiot to prattle on about how much "respect and training" he has if he had never bothered to get one. Also, I imagine that he carries for reasons that have nothing to do with the clubhouse, but simply finds it more secure and/or convenient to carry the weapon into the clubhouse than to leave it in the parking lot.

The questions about travel and visiting clubhouses are interesting. I do wonder if guys like Scott have carried on the road, and how many laws they may have broken in doing so.
   12. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:19 PM (#3469274)
I'm sure all the victims at Virginia Tech, Columbine, Dnepropetrovsk, Red Lake and the dozens of other shootings in the past decade or two felt the exact same way.

So what's the record for fewest posts before a thread gets banished to the lounge?
   13. William K. Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:30 PM (#3469279)
Just use the force, Luke!
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:31 PM (#3469280)
So what's the record for fewest posts before a thread gets banished to the lounge?

What I don't get is if Dan doesn't like "baseball" threads to turn into "political" threads, why does he let Repoz keep putting up articles that are 100% political to begin with? Does he really think that a thread like this was going to turn into a discussion of Slow Foot Luke's stolen base efficiency record?
   15. Tricky Dick Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:41 PM (#3469285)
I don't agree with Scott's fairly aggressive views on the subject. But I know he had a concealed handgun permit in Texas, since that was frequently mentioned. Some states have reciprocity for such permits, but I don't know how he handled that when he traveled to states without reciprocity.
   16. Eric J can SABER all he wants to Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:51 PM (#3469292)
Does he really think that a thread like this was going to turn into a discussion of Slow Foot Luke's stolen base efficiency record?

8/5 for his career, but it seems to be in decline - he was a 2/3 thief in Houston, but only 50% in Baltimore so far.

... Anyone?
   17. Swedish Chef Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:51 PM (#3469294)
I'm sure all the victims at Virginia Tech, Columbine, Dnepropetrovsk, Red Lake and the dozens of other shootings in the past decade or two felt the exact same way.

1. Horse? Check
2. Lance? Check
3. Windmills? Check
Charge!
   18. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: February 27, 2010 at 03:54 PM (#3469296)
...why does he let Repoz keep putting up articles...?

You can't stop Repoz. You can only hope to contain him.
   19. joker24 Posted: February 27, 2010 at 04:06 PM (#3469304)
I wonder if he knows enough about guns that he puts in a locked gunsafe in his locker. Just stashing under his clothes isn't good enough. Because people now know about it.


I believe Scott was in the Outside the Lines thing a few years ago and they showed him in his car at least with a locked gun box, he unlocks it when he's in the car and locks it back up when he gets out....supposedly every time.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: February 27, 2010 at 04:46 PM (#3469324)
I believe Scott was in the Outside the Lines thing a few years ago and they showed him in his car at least with a locked gun box, he unlocks it when he's in the car and locks it back up when he gets out....supposedly every time.

This is beyond parody. Why doesn't he just buy a Lone Ranger outfight and challenge the Girardi Gang to a shootout in the middle of Harborplace?
   21. toratoratora Posted: February 27, 2010 at 04:46 PM (#3469325)
#11
I not sure how it gets applied to athletes,who may or may not get preferential treatment, but Maryland is known as a state where it is very tough to get a CCW permit.
   22. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: February 27, 2010 at 04:54 PM (#3469330)
t like "baseball" threads to turn into "political" threads, why does he let Repoz keep putting up articles that are 100% political to begin with? Does he really think that a thread like this was going to turn into a discussion of Slow Foot Luke's stolen base efficiency record?
100% political? Whether a Senate candidate said something dumb about a baseball player was 100% political. A story about a current MLB player's reaction to a new MLB policy is pretty clearly about baseball.
   23.  Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:00 PM (#3469331)

100% political? Whether a Senate candidate said something dumb about a baseball player was 100% political. A story about a current MLB player's reaction to a new MLB policy is pretty clearly about baseball.


Yeah, but you (and Repoz) know where it's going to go.

Look, guys, David posted! Here is your chance to tell us what you think about libertarianism!
   24. RollingWave Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:17 PM (#3469337)
It would be a lot more amusing if Elijah Dukes comes out says he have a problem with this ban.
   25. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:27 PM (#3469343)
I think having a special thread about guns to turn into the inevitable gun thread is better than having a thread about baseball turn into the inevitable gun thread.
   26. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:36 PM (#3469350)
I think having a gun thread turn into a meta-thread about whether we should have gun threads is a much better idea.
   27. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: February 27, 2010 at 05:41 PM (#3469352)
if gun threads are outlawed, only outlaws will have...

(never mind)
   28. Famous Original Joe C Posted: February 27, 2010 at 06:02 PM (#3469363)
Is this the thread where I can talk about the NBA?
   29. hscs Posted: February 27, 2010 at 06:03 PM (#3469364)
I think Hollywood ended this debate years ago.
   30. PerroX Posted: February 27, 2010 at 06:42 PM (#3469379)
The most interesting thing about the previous thread is how difficult it is to fire a handgun on target even if you are highly trained.

That's why I carry a sawed-off shotgun in my trenchcoat.
   31. Fancy Pants Handle struck out swinging Posted: February 27, 2010 at 06:46 PM (#3469382)
I think Hollywood ended this debate years ago.


Just before he runs out on the field, you can see him popping some pills. It clearly wasn't the fault of the gun, but of the steroids...

/ducks

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