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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Friday, July 30, 2021Baseball Hall of Fame denies Curt Schilling’s request to be removed from ballot for 2022 vote
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Posted: July 30, 2021 at 09:50 AM | 51 comment(s)
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1. zenstudent Posted: July 30, 2021 at 10:34 AM (#6031558)Somehow I suspect Schilling would find it within himself to make the sacrifice and avail himself of the open microphone.
Sounds about right.
Many years ago I planned on being there for Jeter’s induction, wearing my Dad’s Jeter jersey since he can’t be there. But that day also happens to be his grandaughter’s first day of school, so I hope he can understand I won’t be going to Cooperstown.
Easy peasy, just let her skip the first week of school. Whenever she shows up will be her first day of school ;-)
Don't make your kids miss school frequently for stuff like this. Occasional absences are generally fine.
I don't think it's exhausting at all. The great ones just make it look so easy. Sinatra on stage, Van Gogh at an easel, Mays in center field, Schilling being a #########. The greats just get it done.
This was talked to death last time, but it is not just "hating writers" or "being a conservative" or "mean Tweets" that has landed Schilling here.
I get it, but it's ultimately just words, he didn't rape a girl, he didn't force himself on someone he didn't uphold the color barrier etc... he just said stuff... He's a horrible human being. He's hof worthy. We have Puckett who actually did bad stuff in the hof, we have Anson who helped promote bad stuff to deteriorate the quality of the game for half a century. We have all types in the hof, a guy saying unacceptable stuff should not really be an issue. Especially when almost all of that was said after his career was over.
Totally agree with cfb. Schilling's a deserving HoFer, no question. All the crap he's said and done has had nothing to do with how he played the game.
OTOH if someone cut off the mic during his induction speech, that would probably improve the quality of the occasion.
No, but they sure don't help (especially that middle one).
Schilling will make the HOF at some point, one way or the other. There are plenty of other well-qualified players who had to wait.
But I don't recall, say, Ron Santo, acting like this. And Bobby Grich is still waiting -- maybe HE needs to start snowflaking to get attention.
Don't know why Schilling feels the need to publicly wallow in his victimhood.
As noted many times, John Smoltz is far more conservative than Schilling and it just never came up. And it's not like Smoltz has a significantly stronger on field case than Schilling.
It's always amusing to me that RMc can get this exact reaction every single time he posts something like this. Although I doubt it's half as amusing to me as it is to RMc.
They both have some similarities, baseball-wise: multiple WS rings, no Cy Youngs, gappy multi-team careers. Curt is more peaky and Bert is more careery.
Bert, late in his candidacy run, mellowed out and became more conciliatory, which probably helped him get the extra 10-15 votes he needed to get over the hump. Curt just doubles down on his asshattery every time.
Schilling belongs in the Hall of Fame, but he's not helping himself.
There must be some sort of pressure felt in being a non-cinch HOF candidate. I seem to remember Jack Morris becoming more of an bitter, irascible tool as the years and HOF elections rolled by. Once he was inducted, Morris mellowed and now sounds like your cool, knowledgeable uncle who just loves baseball while calling Detroit Tigers games.
Well, he had a bit of a headstart.
When Detroit Free Press sports writer Jennifer Frey tried to get a comment from Tigers pitcher Jack Morris in the Tigers` clubhouse earlier this summer, he said, ''I don`t talk to people when I`m naked, especially women, unless they`re on top of me or I`m on top of them.''
In fairness, this isn't really all that terrible of a policy, generally speaking.
It's more of a case of "being conservative and being noisy about it". Indeed, I didn't even know Smoltz's politics until you brought it up.
It's always amusing to me that RMc can get this exact reaction every single time he posts something like this. Although I doubt it's half as amusing to me as it is to RMc.
Naah. Fish, barrel.
Durocher was inducted post-humously in 1994
I read this as "post-humourously" and thought, "Did Leo stop being funny by 1994?"
The voting body constantly changes, so it's not only understandable, it's inevitable that standards will change as the voters change. People bring up Anson, but he was selected not by the writers, but by an "Old-Timers Committee" consisting of exactly three people. However much you like Frick, Landis, and Harridge, it's ridiculous to expect the writers, a different body, to feel bound for all time by the idiosyncratic standards of those three men now 82 years on and counting.
And the troll has always boasted and bragged about being a troll. It is literally why he's here.
But they moved the players back, they’ll go in Wednesday September 8.
That is goddamned weird. Has it come out why it's in the middle of the week? To cut DOWN on attendance?
At the Hall of Fame, you can buy postcards of each inductee's plaque. I bought one with Will Harridge, as he's arguably the most anonymous inductee. (Of course I did.)
No, no, no - this is just bad trolling. A good troll never casually admits that he doesn't know what he's talking about as if that helps his case.
The correct answer for you here is that Smoltz is really a RINO because [stupid made-up reason] and so therefore doesn't count.
Bert, late in his candidacy run, mellowed out and became more conciliatory, which probably helped him get the extra 10-15 votes he needed to get over the hump. Curt just doubles down on his asshattery every time.
Blyleven also had Rich Lederer, who spent 7 or 8 years consistently making the case for Blyleven on his website. Schilling has basically spent the past few years alienating all the people who might have been his Rich Lederer. That can't have helped. Even if you support his case and aren't that bothered by his antics, do you really want to be known as the guy who spends years going to the mat for Curt Schilling?
He clearly is. But that statement is so disingenuous that it somehow makes everything else he has said about the situation even more ridiculous.
Wait, you did something contrarian?
I'm calling it here and now: Rob Manfred, Hall of Famer.
I look forward to his plaque extolling the beauty of zombie runners, scheduled 7-inning games where a team got no hits but the opposing pitcher didn't pitch a "no-hitter," gutting Minor League Baseball, and his crowning achievement of boldly partnering with numerous gambling rackets to tap another long-overlooked revenue stream for the impoverished owners of MLB teams.
They inducted Bowie Kuhn, they'll induct any commissioner that lasts longer than a few years.
Steve Kerr ain't. Stan Musial wasn't, though I guess that was a long time ago when the parties meant different things. Randy Johnson isn't. But I guess most of them probably are, given that they're mostly rich and lightly educated.
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