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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Thursday, November 11, 2021Before free agency, MLB proposes paying players based on FanGraphs’ calculation of WARSub required.
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Posted: November 11, 2021 at 06:15 PM | 18 comment(s)
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1. Jack Sommers Posted: November 11, 2021 at 06:37 PM (#6052585)Also, I would add…… "Tell me you think FG player valuations undervalue players without telling me they under value players"
If MLB wants to use FG PLayer valuations, it means they’re too low.
But I hate the current system and would rather see something where good players are paid more than bad players.
WTF
Then I'd make some ridiculous pun based on "moral hazard" or " conflict of interest."
Nathan Eovaldi: Boo!
January 11, 2022: MLB acquires Fangraphs.
Good point. That part I was just being snarky.
While the defensive evaluations are the biggest differences on the position player side, they're not the only ones. Positional adjustments and other things tend to have big differences too. I so often see people cherry picking which version they want to use to support any given argument.
I tend to prefer to average the two WARS when looking at things like MVP /CY Young voting. My biggest issue is why only Fangraphs ? I don't think one is better than the other, I just think they tell you different things and measure differently. Especially on the pitching side where one is FIP based and the other is RA-9 based.
Look at Salvy Perez's page.
Gold Glove catcher, .273/.316/.544, led the league with 48 HR and 121 RBI, 161 games played.
3.4 WAR. Nothing special as far as Fangraphs is concerned.
In fact, they like his 2013 season a smidge better: 3.5 WAR for .292/.323/.433, 13 Hr, 79 RBI, 138 games played.
The difference is almost entirely due to, you guessed it, pitch framing: -2.2 runs in 2013, -19.5 in 2021.
Every once in a while, Fangraphs WAR just irrationally loves a player or hates him, and it's usually due to some crazy number on one of their defensive metrics.
An angry Charlie stares down his manager and replies, "THIS. MEANS. WAR."
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