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Wednesday, April 28, 2021

Beginning May 7, Atlanta Braves to expand capacity to 100 percent

With vaccinations across the Southeast increasing and health and safety protocols still in place, the Atlanta Braves are set to resume normal Truist Park seating capacity beginning Friday, May 7 as the team begins their third homestand of the season with a series against the Philadelphia Phillies.

“We have had great success welcoming our fans back safely to Truist Park,” said Derek Schiller, President and CEO of the Atlanta Braves. “Our outdoor environment, the demand from our season ticket holders and fans to watch us play in person plus safety measures which are in place make it feel that now is the right time to get back to full capacity at Truist Park.”

All modified health and safety measures at Truist Park will remain in place. Measures include wearing a face covering unless actively eating or drinking, cashless concessions, mobile ticketing and ordering, and a no bag policy. Enhanced sanitization efforts throughout the ballpark will also continue. Revisions to the seating capacity or other health and safety measures will be subject to continuous review throughout the season.

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   1. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: April 28, 2021 at 04:59 PM (#6015911)
My favourite clickbait headline of the pandemic:

Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice

...continues...!!
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 28, 2021 at 05:17 PM (#6015916)
a no bag policy
This is a "safety measure"? Were people bringing in bags of viruses pre-Covid?
   3. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: April 28, 2021 at 05:23 PM (#6015918)
They sold Bags-o-Viruses (tm) at the concession stand at Turner Field...that was why they had to move!
   4. Jay Seaver Posted: April 28, 2021 at 07:02 PM (#6015939)
Team will probably use any excuse to get rid of bags - you could bring food in in those things, or sodas, or even nice cameras which gets in the way of the FanPhoto guys! - but even though people seem to think that even if surfaces aren't a big vector, might as well be sure other people's stuff won't be touching you.

The bit that gets me that I didn't check at Fenway a couple weeks ago but noticed at the movie theater is that they've roped off drinking fountains, and I'm thinking, really? Run it a couple seconds and you'll be okay; it's the same water we're supposed to assiduously wash our hands with.

Anyway, Fenway is up to 25% for the next homestand with the New England states the top 6 in "percent with at least one vaccination" (5 of top 7 for full vaccination, with New Hampshire down at #28 despite being #1 on the other list) and Georgia is #45/#49 (out of 51), so it kind of feels like Atlanta is moving a bit fast here.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 28, 2021 at 07:15 PM (#6015940)
No bags and cashless transactions are the two things done for the pandemic that teams actually wanted to implement this whole time and will be here to stay.
   6. cardsfanboy Posted: April 28, 2021 at 08:04 PM (#6015949)
Team will probably use any excuse to get rid of bags


Yep, pretty much every other year the Cardinals have tried to come up with an excuse to ban bags, and public backlash has made them relent on the rule. But it's something that every team is trying to figure out a way to do, so that they can sell a bottle of water for a minimum of $3 in 90 degree temp.

Honestly, if you want to ban bags, you should be required by law to GIVE away bottles of water to anyone and everyone who asks for one. Not provide a water fountain, but to provide chilled water in a bottle, and never, ever charge a penny for it.
   7. cardsfanboy Posted: April 28, 2021 at 08:06 PM (#6015950)
cashless transactions


I don't see an issue with that, I don't think I've had cash in probably two years, there is literally no reason to have cash anymore.
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 28, 2021 at 08:54 PM (#6015964)
. . . there is literally no reason to have cash anymore.
Don't know if it’s part of MLB’s Covid protocols, or a DC Government mandate, but at Nationals Park this season, ushers seem to be required to escort you to your seats, spray them liberally with some possibly effective disinfectant, and then energetically wipe them down with a rag that doesn’t appear to have been washed since Opening Day. Got to reward the effort, and I don’t think the ushers take credit cards. But other than that . . .
   9. Mike A Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:12 PM (#6015970)
Not sure this is the greatest idea. As noted, Georgia is sitting at 48th in vaccination percentage, and a lot of the people who attend Brave games aren't especially likely to be vaccinated. Yeah, I know transmission rates are very low outdoors, but you're not outdoors full-time at an MLB game. And anecdotally, I'm seeing less and less mask use every day. Time to move to Maine.
   10. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:32 PM (#6015982)

I don't see an issue with that, I don't think I've had cash in probably two years, there is literally no reason to have cash anymore.


Privacy. Merchants avoiding 3% interchange fees. If I could get a 1.5% discount, I'd pay for everything in cash.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:36 PM (#6015986)
Not sure this is the greatest idea. As noted, Georgia is sitting at 48th in vaccination percentage, and a lot of the people who attend Brave games aren't especially likely to be vaccinated. Yeah, I know transmission rates are very low outdoors, but you're not outdoors full-time at an MLB game. And anecdotally, I'm seeing less and less mask use every day. Time to move to Maine.

Vaccines are readily available. If people don't want to get vaccinated, they bear the risk. Why should the rest of us be inconvenienced? Masks outdoors were always theatre.
   12. Mike A Posted: April 28, 2021 at 09:43 PM (#6015993)
If people don't want to get vaccinated, they bear the risk
My daughter can't get vaccinated, she's too young. That's part of the reason I get frustrated when people decide they won't wear masks or get the vaccine.
   13. SoSH U at work Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:05 PM (#6016018)
I don't see an issue with that, I don't think I've had cash in probably two years, there is literally no reason to have cash anymore.


If I didn't have cash, I wouldn't have seen most of my son's high school baseball games or any of my daughter's soccer games.

Don't assume your experience is universal.

   14. cardsfanboy Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:05 PM (#6016019)
Privacy. Merchants avoiding 3% interchange fees. If I could get a 1.5% discount, I'd pay for everything in cash.


Not sure I get any of that, I pay the same for cash or credit either way, why should I care how the merchant gets their profits on how I pay? That just seems petty to me.
   15. The Duke Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:17 PM (#6016023)
12. Does your daughter have some kind of auto-immune issue or diabetes ? I didn’t think these kinds of things were common but if yes, then that’s a challenge. If not, there’s very little risk of her getting any serious illness. Look at the stats on this - it’s microscopic. The disease isn’t really an issue for young people.
   16. The Duke Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:19 PM (#6016026)
I wonder how revenue-sharing works when each ballpark is allowing different loads. If the Braves end up being one of a handful of teams allowing full capacity, they shouldn’t have to share revenues with visiting teams above that teams home capacity.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:29 PM (#6016036)
If I didn't have cash, I wouldn't have seen most of my son's high school baseball games or any of my daughter's soccer games.

Well no, if parents objected to paying in cash, they'd set up a bank transfer where you'd buy season tickets. Now that we're back to face-to-face bridge in Oz, that's how my bridge club handles the table fees (part of the Covid plan), annual membership (just $20!) and how some of the online bridge session fees were handled as well. And that's an organization run by people over 70.
   18. SoSH U at work Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:34 PM (#6016043)
Well no, if parents objected to paying in cash, they'd set up a bank transfer where you'd buy season tickets.


Great, now get me in the two dozen or so schools where they played road games.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 28, 2021 at 10:41 PM (#6016049)
If the Braves end up being one of a handful of teams allowing full capacity, they shouldn’t have to share revenues with visiting teams above that teams home capacity
There have always been differences in park capacity & turnout, but currently 48% of local revenues are subject to revenue sharing and distributed evenly among the 30 teams, with each team receiving 3.3% of the total. There are arguments against revenue-sharing, but not seeing that local government pandemic regulations are a reason to change anything.
   20. Mike A Posted: April 28, 2021 at 11:04 PM (#6016056)
. Does your daughter have some kind of auto-immune issue or diabetes ? I didn’t think these kinds of things were common but if yes, then that’s a challenge. If not, there’s very little risk of her getting any serious illness. Look at the stats on this - it’s microscopic. The disease isn’t really an issue for young people.
No, she does not. Yes, I know the stats. But I'm still somewhat concerned over possible long-term effects of her getting COVID, so I don't particularly want her exposed.

Beyond my daughter, though we are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel, we're not through yet. As noted in #4, it does feel like the Braves are moving a bit fast here. I do wish Georgia was doing better vaccination-wise, but our demographics are working against us. The Atlanta United are also going to full capacity, and that's indoors and 40,000+.
   21. The Duke Posted: April 28, 2021 at 11:14 PM (#6016059)
29 million people have tested positive. Studies show the actual positive count is anywhere from 3X-8X. Let’s use 4. That’s 120 million people who have had it. About 130 million people have had vaccines. There’s some overlap, but probably not a lot. Covid positive tests are dropping. 3 million a day are getting vaccinated.

Assuming the new variants are impeded by the vaccine, this is already over

Most importantly anyone who wants one over age 16 can get one.

Don’t let the media scare you - this crisis isnt a crisis anymore
   22. Scott Lange Posted: April 29, 2021 at 07:54 AM (#6016071)
29 million people have tested positive. Studies show the actual positive count is anywhere from 3X-8X. Let’s use 4. That’s 120 million people who have had it. About 130 million people have had vaccines. There’s some overlap, but probably not a lot. Covid positive tests are dropping. 3 million a day are getting vaccinated.

Assuming the new variants are impeded by the vaccine, this is already over


I understand you're a pro-virus troll so I won't be following up, but there are 210 million adults in the US. You claim 250 million people have had it or are vaccinated and those are almost all adults, so that's everyone and it's over. But your back-of-the-envelope BS conflicts with the fact that 53,000 people tested positive in the US yesterday! 600 died! It's like saying "well, if you assume A, B, and C, and do some arithmetic, it's obvious that the sun rises in the west" WHEN IT'S CURRENTLY RISING IN THE EAST RIGHT NOW JUST LOOK OUT THE WINDOW!

Certainly we're in a much better place now than we were a few months ago. Certainly vaccinated people should feel more comfortable than they did before getting their shots. But packing stadiums elbow-to-elbow in contravention of CDC guidelines is a terrible, murderous idea.
   23. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 29, 2021 at 08:47 AM (#6016073)
The people that actually study this stuff estimate about 50 percent of adults are vaccinated, and we need to get to 75-85 percent to reach herd immunity (even those that have been infected with COVID before may be capable of getting it again after several months).
   24. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:02 AM (#6016079)
No, she does not. Yes, I know the stats. But I'm still somewhat concerned over possible long-term effects of her getting COVID, so I don't particularly want her exposed.

My two nephews (9 and 13) and niece (5) had it. Total non-event. Not even a bad cold level of symptoms.
   25. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:06 AM (#6016080)
Not sure I get any of that, I pay the same for cash or credit either way, why should I care how the merchant gets their profits on how I pay? That just seems petty to me.

The merchants raise their prices knowing they have to pay the 3% on most transactions. Most Mastercard and Visa agreements prevent merchants from offering a cash discount, because they're an abusive duopoly. That's why you pay the same either way. I'd far rather keep 1.5% of that, and let the merchant have 1.5% and cut out MC and Visa.
   26. bob gee Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:13 AM (#6016082)
I pay all the time in cash at local merchants. Even without a discount for me, I'd rather they get the money saved (from no payment to MC/Visa) than the major corporation.
   27. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:40 AM (#6016089)
Most places I've seen have been trying to eliminate cash payments but will still accept them (that's how it was at Fenway). Not exchanging cash is a good idea for health reasons (cash money is diiiiisgusting). The no bags thing is bullshit pure and simple, especially in partial capacity. At least if a park is 100% full you can make a case that bags take up space that can make it uncomfortable for people sitting near you. But with no one sitting near you there isn't even that weak case.

The merchants raise their prices knowing they have to pay the 3% on most transactions.


Baloney. Merchants raise their prices because they can. If you think merchants are going to suddenly reduce their prices by having no credit card fees you probably think the Yankees will reduce ticket prices because their payroll comes down.
   28. winnipegwhip Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:43 AM (#6016091)
Not sure I get any of that, I pay the same for cash or credit either way, why should I care how the merchant gets their profits on how I pay? That just seems petty to me.


I have bought big ticket items and mentioned I will pay cash instead of credit card. Many will agree to meet you in the middle and save half the transaction fee. It's a win-win.
   29. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 29, 2021 at 10:24 AM (#6016097)
Baloney. Merchants raise their prices because they can. If you think merchants are going to suddenly reduce their prices by having no credit card fees you probably think the Yankees will reduce ticket prices because their payroll comes down.

No, merchants raise prices if the competition allows. If everyone's costs went down 3%, they cut prices to grow sales. Most merchants aren't oligopolists like baseball teams. Retail is especially brutal, with thin margins.
   30. GregD Posted: April 29, 2021 at 12:06 PM (#6016112)
This is obvious but the other effects of switching from cash to credit are

1) reduced chance of burglary
2) reduced trips to bank (or secure pickups if you’re big enough for that)

A local coffee guy was all cash and switched during the pandemic and is like he hates losing the margin (and does have a cash discount rules be damned) but he also doesn’t miss dealing with the cash and dealing with burglary
   31. The Duke Posted: April 29, 2021 at 07:16 PM (#6016220)
22. I quite clearly said there was overlap. In addition while vaccines aren’t given to youngsters the testing is not confined to over 16 so I assume a reasonable proportion of the 29 million are children.

And as luck would have it Fauci belatedly came out today and said the infection rate is dropping. Rapidly. Big surprise. Of course it is, or the vaccines would be failures.

I’m not a pro-virus troll, I’m an anti-hysteria troll. For now, the pandemic is over. It might rear its head again if a variant can evade the antibodies/vaccine. But it’s over. Faucis fifteen minutes are at 14:54. He knows it and doesn’t want to lose it which is why he and the whole govt are dragging their feet to declare it dead. Look at Israel- life is back to normal. It could be here too if we didn’t have control freaks in charge.

Open the stadiums!!!!!!
   32. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 29, 2021 at 07:30 PM (#6016222)
I don't see an issue with that, I don't think I've had cash in probably two years, there is literally no reason to have cash anymore.

If I didn't have cash, I wouldn't have seen most of my son's high school baseball games or any of my daughter's soccer games.

Don't assume your experience is universal.


This. I've never in my life owned or needed a backpack, and find them kind of geeky, but I don't think that makes me qualified to say that nobody else should use them.

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I pay all the time in cash at local merchants. Even without a discount for me, I'd rather they get the money saved (from no payment to MC/Visa) than the major corporation.

I use cash for all in-person transactions, and I'm 100% in favor of local regulations that forbid businesses from refusing to accept it. I use my one credit card for online purchases only.
   33. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: April 29, 2021 at 09:36 PM (#6016229)
and I'm 100% in favor of local regulations that forbid businesses from refusing to accept it.

Concur.
   34. Traderdave Posted: April 30, 2021 at 09:10 AM (#6016255)
I always have a couple hundred in cash in my pocket, lifelong habit. During COVID, hardly ever going places, ATM trips have been few and far between, but wallet/keys/phone/money clip is still part of the morning setup routine.
   35. Ron J Posted: April 30, 2021 at 09:52 AM (#6016260)
#34 Yeah. I've been to the ATM exactly once in the past 13 months.
   36. Rally Posted: April 30, 2021 at 10:59 AM (#6016275)
I've definitely not used much cash in the last year, but 100% on board with those who do not want to live in a cashless society.
   37. Rally Posted: April 30, 2021 at 11:03 AM (#6016276)
29 million people have tested positive. Studies show the actual positive count is anywhere from 3X-8X. Let’s use 4. That’s 120 million people who have had it.


I think a lot of that is a relic of the early stages, when the availability of tests was severely restricted. At this point I wonder the actual multiplier should be closer to 2. Is that 29 million individual people testing positive? Or 29 million positive tests? If the latter, then we definitely need a lower multiplier.
   38. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 30, 2021 at 11:07 AM (#6016279)

I don’t use cash for much, but many merchants have a minimum purchase for credit card transactions. If I’m at a busy bar just buying one or two drinks I hate opening a tab and would rather pay cash. And I always try to keep a few singles to tip folks like valets, hotel maids, etc when I travel. Obviously most of those things haven’t been happening during the pandemic, but they will again.
   39. Rally Posted: April 30, 2021 at 11:10 AM (#6016280)
All modified health and safety measures at Truist Park will remain in place. Measures include wearing a face covering unless actively eating or drinking, cashless concessions, mobile ticketing and ordering, and a no bag policy.


Checked out Camden Yards, which has 25% seating capacity and about the same policies otherwise. The mask is a big issue for me. I will never pay money for entertainment that requires me to wear a mask.

I'll wear the mask to Walmart later today to comply with regulations, in and out in 15 minutes. But that's it. I've had my shot. I'll came back to the socializing and entertainment opportunities only when I don't have to wear one. Until then I'm perfectly happy staying at home and watching TV.
   40. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 30, 2021 at 11:11 AM (#6016283)

I think a lot of that is a relic of the early stages, when the availability of tests was severely restricted. At this point I wonder the actual multiplier should be closer to 2. Is that 29 million individual people testing positive? Or 29 million positive tests? If the latter, then we definitely need a lower multiplier.


I believe it is 29 million people, not tests. At least for the states where I have looked into it, that's how they report it.

I think the multiplier is probably around 3-4x. Maybe it's only 2x over the past couple of months but I don't think that will bring down the average for the overall pandemic. But who knows?
   41. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 30, 2021 at 11:26 AM (#6016287)

In addition while vaccines aren’t given to youngsters the testing is not confined to over 16 so I assume a reasonable proportion of the 29 million are children.

Not that many, or at least not that much more than there were before. I wrote a script to track this data in Florida -- the percentage of cases in the 0-19 age group went from about 15-16% of new cases at the peak of the pandemic this winter, to 21-22% the past few weeks. The 70+ age group went from 10-12% of cases to 5-6%. That's great progress, but it's disappointing that all these people who could have gotten vaccinated months ago apparently haven't done so yet.

That being said, I think in the next month or so we'll have reached the point where just about any adult who wants to get vaccinated will have had the opportunity to do so. Yes, I understand the argument about variants and about not knowing the long-term effects on children, but it's going to be hard to justify keeping things shut mainly to protect adults who haven't availed themselves of the vaccines at that point.
   42. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: April 30, 2021 at 12:11 PM (#6016304)
Somewhere above 99% of my cash use is at restaurants, & especially for tips. I'm pretty sure the servers appreciate it.
   43. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 30, 2021 at 01:35 PM (#6016324)
I always have a couple hundred in cash in my pocket, lifelong habit.

Hey, nice to know I'm not the only one. Back when my ex-GF and I were touring Big Ten or SEC college campuses with our movie programs, I'd have over $10,000 in my jeans by the time we got back to Washington. Of course as we went from town to town we had to change it all into big bills in order not to make the wad too obvious.

During COVID, hardly ever going places, ATM trips have been few and far between, but wallet/keys/phone/money clip is still part of the morning setup routine.

Never had a money clip or an ATM card. The bills just go neatly folded next to my phone in one front pocket, and my keys in the other. I like to keep things simple.
   44. Mike A Posted: April 30, 2021 at 01:44 PM (#6016326)
I think in the next month or so we'll have reached the point where just about any adult who wants to get vaccinated will have had the opportunity to do so.
In Georgia, we're only at 34% who have had their first shot. Israel was mentioned earlier in this thread, they're at 62%. That's a pretty substantial difference. But yeah, there does come a point where you will have to open.

Is 34% semi-vaccinated the point when we should open up a 40,000+ capacity indoor/outdoor stadium? I don't know. Fingers crossed that it will all work out, but as said in #4, this seems a bit premature. People come to Braves/United games from all over, and a lot are from rural Alabama/Tennessee/Georgia areas where vaccination rates are low.

Good news is most vulnerable people are now protected. Bad news is Georgia looks like it will fall short of herd immunity with the curve flattening and vaccination sites shutting down. I guess it gets to the point where you wonder how much more can be done?

As a side, I switched from a Constanza-like back-pocket wallet to a 4-carder that fits it my front pocket. That may be my best decision of the past year.
   45. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 30, 2021 at 02:40 PM (#6016334)
As a side, I switched from a Constanza-like back-pocket wallet to a 4-carder that fits it my front pocket. That may be my best decision of the past year.

I've never sweated pickpockets, but on a subway a back pocket's a lot easier to pinch out of than a front pocket, especially if you're wearing jeans.
   46. Phil Plantier's Famous Toilet Seat Stance Posted: April 30, 2021 at 04:27 PM (#6016357)
mobile ticketing


I hate this one. At this point we know surface transmission isn't a thing but most, if not all teams, have done this in response to Covid (and some teams had started to move this way already) and I know that once implemented this is going to be the way going forward.

1. I love paper tickets from a collectability and novelty standpoint. One of my favorite mementos that I still keep at my desk remains my 2004 ACLS Game 3 ticket stub (which was rained out and became game 5 - not only did we have the dramatic 14th inning Ortiz walkoff single, but it was also Pedro's last Red Sox start at Fenway) and I hate losing that.

2. More than that, I happen to be one of the six Americans left without a smartphone and getting into Fenway isn't going to be the final straw that gets me to join the 21st century (maybe 3G being phased out in about nine months will, but I would rather avoid it if I can).

3. We didn't go at all last year, but I usually bring Ma to 4 or 5 games a season and mobile only ticketing is going to put a stop to that. She's still landline only and absolutely will be until she passes or life becomes absolutely impossible without one.
   47. "bothsidesism" word 57i66135 Posted: April 30, 2021 at 04:56 PM (#6016364)
1. I love paper tickets from a collectability and novelty standpoint. One of my favorite mementos that I still keep at my desk remains my 2004 ACLS Game 3 ticket stub (which was rained out and became game 5 - not only did we have the dramatic 14th inning Ortiz walkoff single, but it was also Pedro's last Red Sox start at Fenway) and I hate losing that.
rest assured: soon, you'll be able to buy a commemorative NFT of your paperless ticket.
   48. Phil Plantier's Famous Toilet Seat Stance Posted: April 30, 2021 at 05:19 PM (#6016370)
rest assured: soon, you'll be able to buy a commemorative NFT of your paperless ticket


Ugh. A friend of mine is knee deep into this stuff (mostly in the art world) and to say "I don't get it" is an understatement. I guess I just got old.
   49. Obo Posted: April 30, 2021 at 06:55 PM (#6016393)
I guess I just got old.

Nah, you gotta call BS on BS.
   50. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 30, 2021 at 09:17 PM (#6016421)
1. I love paper tickets from a collectability and novelty standpoint. One of my favorite mementos that I still keep at my desk remains my 2004 ACLS Game 3 ticket stub (which was rained out and became game 5 - not only did we have the dramatic 14th inning Ortiz walkoff single, but it was also Pedro's last Red Sox start at Fenway) and I hate losing that.

I still have the ticket stub from the final game of the 1982 season in my wallet, the game where the Brewers beat the Orioles to win the AL East. Not sure why I've kept in my wallet, since I was rooting for the Orioles, but that entire final week was one to remember, including the standing ovation the crowd gave Earl Weaver after the game was over. I was also at Cal's #2130, and have the full ticket for that one, but that 1982 finale was more memorable.

2. More than that, I happen to be one of the six Americans left without a smartphone and getting into Fenway isn't going to be the final straw that gets me to join the 21st century (maybe 3G being phased out in about nine months will, but I would rather avoid it if I can).

Amazing. BTF now has fully 33% of the non-smartphone owning Americans, although I should maybe only claim half credit because my wife has one.
   51. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 30, 2021 at 09:53 PM (#6016427)
Amazing. BTF now has fully 33% of the non-smartphone owning Americans, although I should maybe only claim half credit because my wife has one.

Mrs. PRD would make it 50%, and I had to beg her to get any kind of mobile phone eventually settling on the cheapest flip phone Verizon had in stock as of about 3 years ago. I almost drove off from our first date because my repeated texts that I was there went unanswered.

Turns out she was already there and I was texting her landline.
   52. Rally Posted: May 01, 2021 at 12:36 AM (#6016446)
The most memorable tickets I have are for Strasburg’s debut and Manny Ramirez’s 500th homer. You were there too Andy, it was a BTF group outing.
   53. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: May 02, 2021 at 09:49 AM (#6016518)
The smart thing would be to offer the vaccine *at* the Braves games. Dedicate an area of the stadium or in the parking lot where fans can go get the shot before/during/after the games.
   54. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 02, 2021 at 11:25 PM (#6016598)
The most memorable tickets I have are for Strasburg’s debut and Manny Ramirez’s 500th homer. You were there too Andy, it was a BTF group outing.

Sure was. I think I still have the program.

My top in person games, in chronological order:

1. Opening Day 1956. Mickey Mantle hit 2 homers over the CF wall in Griffith Stadium, a feat that was accomplished only 3 other times in the 51 year history of the stadium. A friend of mine and I were sitting (illegally) on the bleacher wall in the roped off section of CF, and when those home runs passed over the wall, we were literally sitting closer to them than any other fans in the ballpark.

2. July 25, 1961. Roger Maris hit 4 homers in a DH against the White Sox. The highlight of a week long high school vacation of seeing 9 games at Yankee Stadium in 7 days.

3. July 16, 1969. Pirates at Expos in Parc Jarry, one of the great ballparks I've ever been to. Willie Stargell hit a mammoth HR way over the RF wall that landed in a public swimming pool. That ballpark had a festival atmosphere in the Expos' debut season that I've never seen anywhere else before or since.

4, An early September 1971 game at Candlestick between the Giants and the Dodgers, where the game time temperature was over 100 degrees, where the Dodgers rallied to beat the Giants in the 9th, where Bobby Bonds almost impaled himself on the fence trying to prevent a home run, and most memorably, where the fans of the two teams kept burning pennants of the other team in front of that team's fans, causing innumerable fights in the stands. This is the only Giants - Dodgers game I've ever been to, and after that experience I was a total believer in the bloodthirsty nature of the rivalry. It was fabulous.

5. Game 3, 1974 ALCS. Greatest pitcher's duel I ever saw in person. Vida Blue's 2-hitter beat Jim Palmer's 4-hitter in a 1-0 game decided by a 310' Sal Bando HR. Memorial Stadium was half empty.

6. August 18, 1980. The rubber game of a 5 game series between the O's and the Yanks in Baltimore, won in a 6-5 nailbiter by the O's in a game that ended on a disputed third strike call that was right down the middle. The 5 game series drew over 260,000 fans to Memorial Stadium, and of the ~200 games I've been to, this was the one with the most electrified atmosphere.

7. October 3, 1982. Final game of the season, where the Brewers beat the O's to win the AL East by a single game, after the Orioles had won the first 3 games of the series by lopsided scores. After the final out, the entire stadium rose to its feet to give Earl Weaver and his team a standing ovation.

8. The last and the best: The final game of the 1983 World Series, where a friend and I took the Amtrak from DC to Philly and got separate first row upper deck box seats behind the plate for face value from a pair of disgusted Phillies fans. Eddie Murray's 2 home runs put the game on ice early, and from our seats we could see other Orioles fans dancing on top of the dugout. That 1983 Orioles team may be my favorite team ever----hard to think of a more lovable one.
   55. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: May 03, 2021 at 08:46 AM (#6016626)
I almost drove off from our first date because my repeated texts that I was there went unanswered.

Turns out she was already there and I was texting her landline.


I'm sure there is an easy solution, but I run into this problem regularly with my iPhone: if I haven't texted anyone in a while, and there's more than one number in the contact card (work/home/cell), I always guess wrong. I do get an automatic message saying that the text went to a landline.
   56. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: May 03, 2021 at 01:20 PM (#6016660)
7. October 3, 1982. Final game of the season, where the Brewers beat the O's to win the AL East by a single game, after the Orioles had won the first 3 games of the series by lopsided scores. After the final out, the entire stadium rose to its feet to give Earl Weaver and his team a standing ovation.


I went to the game before this one, on October 2. I watched the final game on the "lucky" black-and-white tv, to no avail. Too bad the Jim Palmer from that 1974 ALCS didn't show up.

   57. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 03, 2021 at 02:03 PM (#6016668)
Too bad that the Jim Palmer from his previous 22 starts in 1982 didn't show up, when he'd gone 12 and 1 with a 2.18 ERA.

As it was, if Nolan's blooper in the 8th had traveled about a foot less, Oglivie wouldn't have caught it, and the score would've been 5-4 at that point with the tying run on 2nd or 3rd with Shelby coming up.

And if Molitor's 2 out RBI single up the middle in the 9th hadn't eluded Cal's glove by less than a foot, the Brewers would've been stuck at 5 runs rather than their eventual 10. The 10-2 final score was no reflection of how close that game was. It could easily have wound up in the O's WIN column. #Joe Angel
   58. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: May 03, 2021 at 02:13 PM (#6016670)
One other memorable game in Memorial that I forgot to list: Game 2 of the 1979 ALCS, where the O's went out to an early 9-1 lead over the Angels, and then had to hang on in the later innings as the Angels kept chipping away at the lead. It finally ended at 9-8 with "Stan the Man Unusual" Stanhouse allowing 2 inherited runners to score in the 8th and then giving up 2 more runs in the 9th, before Brian Downing finally ended it by hitting into a bases loaded force play. It was like driving down a deserted highway in a blizzard, knowing you were only a few miles from home, but also seeing your gas needle hovering above Empty. Pure torture.

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