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Monday, March 11, 2019

Betting on baseball has finally outgrown Pete Rose

Not even halfway into his argument against Major League Baseball striking a deal with MGM Resorts on a gambling partnership, it sounds like Pete Rose is already thinking of ways to game the system.

“You’re telling me the managers have to submit their lineups to the league office so the casino can set the lines on the games?” Rose told the New York Daily News. “What happens if right before game time your starting pitcher has a cramp and has to be scratched? Is the manager gonna get blamed for that ... for screwing up the line?”

The more baseball embraces gambling, the more we’re going to hear from Pete Rose. Never mind that Rose spends a large chunk of his time signing autographs in Las Vegas just a walk away from any sportsbook, for a certain generations of fans he’ll be on the forefront of their minds every time they place a bet from their phones and walk into a ballpark. It’s a short-term side effect to MLB’s long-term plan to grow the game.

Pete Rose acting like a perpetual sociopath and reprobate? What are the odds?

 

QLE Posted: March 11, 2019 at 05:39 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: gambling, las vegas, pete rose

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   1. Rennie's Tenet Posted: March 11, 2019 at 10:24 AM (#5821804)
Pete'll be 78 on April 14.
   2. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: March 11, 2019 at 11:15 AM (#5821823)
MLB’s long-term plan to grow the game.

"Growing the game" != "Growing a new generation of gambling addicts who only care about the line, not about who wins and loses"
   3. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: March 11, 2019 at 11:30 AM (#5821829)
Checked out Rose's game logs and from last box score as a player I recognized some guys who are now dead, Bruce Bochy who is the Giants manager, and Barry Larkin who is in hall of fame playing in his fourth major league game and second start for the Reds.
   4. Sunday silence Posted: March 11, 2019 at 11:46 AM (#5821842)
without trying to raise up Rose; isnt his pt. a good one? I mean I dont get what the purpose of phoning in the lineup to NCY is going to do. There's still going to be last minute scratches, right? ANd there still might be inside info on such. Or did I miss something?
   5. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: March 11, 2019 at 12:12 PM (#5821854)
Checked out Rose's game logs and from last box score as a player I recognized some guys who are now dead, Bruce Bochy who is the Giants manager, and Barry Larkin who is in hall of fame playing in his fourth major league game and second start for the Reds.


4 future HOFers in that game: Gwynn, Gossage, Larkin, Perez. 5 if you include the impending election of Bochy. Lots of other very good players: Garvey, Buddy Bell, Dave Parker, John Franco, Garry Templeton, John Kruk. LaMarr Hoyt won a CYA. Plus Rose.
   6. . Posted: March 11, 2019 at 01:03 PM (#5821879)
The ban was already badly disproportionate, and now looks utterly absurd.
   7. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: March 11, 2019 at 01:21 PM (#5821883)

Not to nitpick, but this from TFA makes me think the author didn't put a lot of thought into it:

Shoeless Joe Jackson was banned for alleged gambling in 1919.
   8. Cris E Posted: March 11, 2019 at 01:42 PM (#5821888)
If you were wondering about the effects of this sort of relationship on MLB you know Pete would have insight. And honestly he's right. If you care about separating the sport from the gamblers to reduce the chances of an NBA-like game fixing scandal then you don't do this. MLB is no longer above this type of thing, I guess, so do you think a Rose HoF induction would sell enough tickets to move the needle on that proposition?
   9. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: March 11, 2019 at 02:24 PM (#5821904)
without trying to raise up Rose; isnt his pt. a good one? I mean I dont get what the purpose of phoning in the lineup to NCY is going to do. There's still going to be last minute scratches, right? ANd there still might be inside info on such. Or did I miss something?
There is absolutely a point to be made there. And I remain deeply uncomfortable with MLB cozying up to gambling interests.

Whether *Rose* was actually making that point...
   10. TDF, trained monkey Posted: March 11, 2019 at 05:07 PM (#5821945)
The article is awful. I probably could've written something better and more coherent when I was in 6th grade, and I don't think of myself as a great writer. With that out of the way,...
“What happens if right before game time your starting pitcher has a cramp and has to be scratched? Is the manager gonna get blamed for that ... for screwing up the line?”
Either (1) he's wrong, and what managers are gonna get accused of is throwing games or (2) he thinks MLB is now (with their new gambling partnerships) more worried about the line being affected than the game being affected.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: March 11, 2019 at 05:24 PM (#5821951)
I mean I dont get what the purpose of phoning in the lineup to NCY is going to do. There's still going to be last minute scratches, right? ANd there still might be inside info on such.

The purpose is to try to limit the inside info to MGM Resorts, MLB's partner in crime revenue enhancement. The question is how much trouble will a manager, coach, player get into if they (accidentally?) divulge lineup info to the broader public. Does Kris Bryant get in trouble if he tells Len Kasper that he's probably getting a day off tomorrow?
   12. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: March 12, 2019 at 09:59 AM (#5822023)
Pete Rose becomes the latest villain who's now a prophet.

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