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Bloom: Red Sox won’t rush to have manager by spring training

BOSTON (AP) — The Boston Red Sox are still hoping to have a manager in place by spring training, but chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom said Thursday it’s possible they won’t hire someone before pitchers and catchers report Feb. 12.

“It would certainly be ideal” to have replaced Alex Cora by then — but not at the cost of rushing the process, Bloom said. “Nobody wants to be at this point in a year without a manager, obviously, so that would become even more important once we get to spring training.”

The Red Sox let Cora go last week after Commissioner Rob Manfred identified him as the ringleader in a sign-stealing scheme when he was the bench coach with the World Series champion Houston Astros in 2017. Major League Baseball is also looking into whether Cora engaged in similar shenanigans after taking over the Red Sox in 2018; the team has declined comment pending the results of the investigation.

The Astros fired manager AJ Hinch, and the Mets fired new manager Carlos Beltrán — before he managed a single game for the team — because of his connection to the cheating. The Mets stayed in house and quickly hired Luis Rojas to replace Beltrán, and the Astros have already conducted several interviews for their opening.

 

 

QLE Posted: January 24, 2020 at 01:13 AM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: chaim bloom, managerial search, red sox, spring training

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   1. villageidiom Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:36 AM (#5918943)
Also from TFA:
Bloom also said the Red Sox are trying to help second baseman Dustin Pedroia figure out what to do after what the team called a “significant setback” in his recovery from a knee injury.

“It’s tough news to hear because of everything that he’s already battled through, everything that he’s continuing to try to battle through,” Bloom said. “You know the type of competitor he is. You can imagine how he would feel about a setback like this.”

A four-time All-Star and the 2008 AL MVP, Pedroia has played in just nine games the past two seasons while trying to recover from an injury resulting from a hard slide into second base by Baltimore’s Manny Machado on April 21, 2017.

“It’s not an easy thing to work through,” Bloom said. “If anybody can work through this, it’s going to be Dustin. But he’s obviously still, with our help, trying to get his arms around what’s next.”
No. If anyone can't work through this, it's going to be Dustin. This was the guy fielding grounders on his knees during practice after he broke his foot a decade ago. He is not wired to let the healing process happen. He gets hurt; he comes back faster than he should; he has a near-immediate setback; and then he's out for another year. This is who he is. He wants to believe that he can get back out there, that the first moment he thinks everything might be OK he's going 100%.

Did you ever have a stomach bug? Pedroia is the kind of guy who has a stomach bug, vomits until he has nothing left to vomit, and then 5 minutes later he has a feast of ice cream and vodka because he wants to believe he's fine now. I don't know if that's how Pedroia thinks - I'm not inside his head - but that's how Pedroia behaves.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 08:40 AM (#5918945)
it’s possible they won’t hire someone before pitchers and catchers report Feb. 12.

That seems odd. It's not like any new candidates will become available in the next three weeks.
   3. Jeff Francoeur's OPS Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:25 AM (#5918950)
It seems Bobby Valentine is available.
   4. JJ1986 Posted: January 24, 2020 at 09:32 AM (#5918952)
This must mean they want to promote one of their coaches and are waiting for the report on their own cheating.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 24, 2020 at 10:09 AM (#5918976)
Someone should confirm with Pedroia that he’s still totally cool with Machado’s slide, and the Utley Rule is just for p****** with bad footwork.
   6. jmurph Posted: January 24, 2020 at 10:14 AM (#5918979)
This must mean they want to promote one of their coaches and are waiting for the report on their own cheating.

This makes sense. It's actually the only thing that makes these comments make sense, so I hope you're right!
   7. PreservedFish Posted: January 24, 2020 at 10:26 AM (#5918986)
it’s possible they won’t hire someone before pitchers and catchers report Feb. 12.


I'm imagining everyone showing up and just kind of gathering around, not knowing what to do.
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 11:07 AM (#5919008)
I'm imagining everyone showing up and just kind of gathering around, not knowing what to do.

I imagine someone pulling a Rickey! and saying if there's no manager, I don't have to report.
   9. Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: January 24, 2020 at 11:21 AM (#5919013)
It seems Bobby Valentine is available.


So's your mom.
   10. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 24, 2020 at 11:31 AM (#5919015)
I think the rule is that if the manager is more than 10 minutes late, everyone gets to leave.
   11. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 11:32 AM (#5919016)
...although having one in place might be helpful.
   12. caspian88 Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:04 PM (#5919024)
They could make Pedroia the manager!

Just don't make him the quality control coach.
   13. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:54 PM (#5919038)
he has a feast of ice cream and vodka


I just want to hear more about your vodka and ice cream feasts! What flavor ice cream are we talking about? Vanilla bean? And is the vodka applied directly to the ice cream? Can you do a vodka foam? Does that technology exist?
   14. Nasty Nate Posted: January 24, 2020 at 12:57 PM (#5919042)
Sounds like simply a frozen white russian
   15. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 01:00 PM (#5919043)
Sounds like simply a frozen white russian

You could do Scroppino. Italian desert drink made of lemon gelato, vodka, and Prosecco.
   16. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 01:13 PM (#5919054)
You could do Scroppino. Italian desert drink made of lemon gelato, vodka, and Prosecco.


I read that as prosciutto, not Prosecco, and was momentarily appalled.
   17. Greg Pope Posted: January 24, 2020 at 03:35 PM (#5919116)
I'm imagining everyone showing up and just kind of gathering around, not knowing what to do.

They didn't fire all the coaches, did they? Hitting, pitching, fielding, etc. will still be under supervision of some sort.
   18. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 24, 2020 at 03:41 PM (#5919122)

They didn't fire all the coaches, did they? Hitting, pitching, fielding, etc. will still be under supervision of some sort.


So, like a group of coaches running things instead of a manager. They could call it a "colleg" of coaches.
   19. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:39 PM (#5919143)
As just noted on the MLB Now program, the Red Sox stance doesn’t really add up. If a Manager is now so unimportant that there is no problem going into Spring Training without one, how can it be so difficult to hire someone? And if it’s such an important position that it takes a month or more to fill the job, how can you leave a critical position vacant when you’re laying the foundation for the season in Spring Training? I’m also perplexed by the argument that they need to wait for the conclusion of the MLB sign-stealing investigation. By now the front office surely knows what went on. Are they hoping MLB won’t find out which coaches were involved? That’s seems like an unnecessary gamble that’s not worth the potential downside.
   20. PreservedFish Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:39 PM (#5919144)
I read that as prosciutto, not Prosecco, and was momentarily appalled.

Prosciutto and melon is a classic. I'd try prosciutto and gelato. If it stinks, well, there's still the vodka to help with that.
   21. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:43 PM (#5919146)
I'd try prosciutto and gelato.
I've had bacon ice cream. It was quite tasty. Prosciutto and gelato? Sign me up!
   22. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:44 PM (#5919147)
They could call it a "colleg" of coaches.
Somebody didn't take Spelling in colleje.
   23. Nasty Nate Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:49 PM (#5919149)
As just noted on the MLB Now program, the Red Sox stance doesn’t really add up. If a Manager is now so unimportant that there is no problem going into Spring Training without one, how can it be so difficult to hire someone? And if it’s such an important position that it takes a month or more to fill the job, how can you leave a critical position vacant when you’re laying the foundation for the season in Spring Training? I’m also perplexed by the argument that they need to wait for the conclusion of the MLB sign-stealing investigation. By now the front office surely knows what went on. Are they hoping MLB won’t find out which coaches were involved? That’s seems like an unnecessary gamble that’s not worth the potential downside.
What do you think is really going on? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious what people think.

It's possible they are downplaying the urgency in order to retain some leverage in negotiations with candidates?
   24. Walt Davis Posted: January 24, 2020 at 04:56 PM (#5919151)
Friend does a thing of letting a good vanilla melt, add whiskey, stir and refreeze. Ends up quite tasty. Presumably would work nicely with coffee ice cream.
   25. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: January 24, 2020 at 06:17 PM (#5919163)
What do you think is really going on? I'm not being snarky, I'm genuinely curious what people think.

By now the front office surely knows what went on. Are they hoping MLB won’t find out which coaches were involved?


I've said it elsewhere and JJ mentioned it in comment #4, the Sox likely want to promote internally (Roenicke or Febles) but want the investigation completed so they don't hand the job to one of those guys only to have that guy get suspended for a year the next afternoon. It's possible the Sox have done an investigation of some sort and it's come back clean but they want the MLB investigation completed before making the move.

I'll also note that in 2002 the Sox went to camp in all kinds of confusion. Kerrigan was the manager but on roughly the first day of camp the Henry group purchase was made official. They iced Joe and Dan Duquette and promoted Mike Cubbage as interim manager and then hired Grady Little on March 12. Say what you will about Grady (and I've said plenty) but they won 191 games in two years. I suspect Roenicke is in the Cubbage role right now but for PR reasons they aren't making it official.
   26. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 24, 2020 at 06:42 PM (#5919170)
It's possible the Sox have done an investigation of some sort and it's come back clean but they want the MLB investigation completed before making the move.
That seems like another way of sayIng that the Red Sox are afraid the internal candidates lied to them about their involvement. I would think any competent internal investigation would get to the bottom of the sign-stealing fairly easily, assuming that that’s what was wanted. Put the video nerds on the rack, they’ll rat out everyone.
   27. DFA Posted: January 24, 2020 at 07:29 PM (#5919173)
he has a feast of ice cream and vodka


Oooh, are there any dairy free options available?
   28. villageidiom Posted: January 25, 2020 at 07:44 AM (#5919225)
I just want to hear more about your vodka and ice cream feasts!
I was only trying to suggest the worst things to have during a stomach bug. There could be worse things I suppose.
   29. villageidiom Posted: January 25, 2020 at 07:46 AM (#5919226)
Ooooh, look! Clapper has concerns about the Red Sox again!
   30. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: January 25, 2020 at 09:05 AM (#5919228)
he has a feast of ice cream and vodka

Oooh, are there any dairy free options available?
You could go with a Rice Russian, aka a White Russian made with rice milk. This is an absolute sugar bomb (even more so than a regular White Russian), but if you're drinking this sort of swill then obviously that doesn't matter to you.

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