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Blue Jays acquire Rajai Davis from A’s for Trystan Magnuson
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com the Blue Jays have acquired outfielder Rajai Davis from the A’s, with MLB Trade Rumors reporting that Oakland will receive minor-league reliever Trystan Magnuson in return.
Oakland claimed Davis off waivers from Pittsburgh in early 2008 and he thrived in his first opportunity as a big-league regular the next season, hitting .305 with a .360 on-base percentage and 41 steals in 432 plate appearances.
Given a chance to be an everyday player this year Davis hit .284 with 50 steals, but posted a sub par .320 OBP and saw his OPS drop from .784 to .697.
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Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:28 PM | 74 comment(s)
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1. You can keep your massive haul Posted: November 17, 2010 at 10:33 PM (#3692381)If they made this deal to make room for Conor Jackson, I think it's a poor move. Rajai was their only OF who has shown he can stay healthy, and he's a pretty ideal 5th OF given his value as a pinch runner.
Seems like a decent trade for both sides. Raj wasn't going to play in Oakland and Toronto could probably use some guys in the OF that can run down flyballs.
Almost. The Pirates traded Davis (for no effing good reason) and Stephen MacFarland to San Francisco for Matt Morris and his terrible contract. The Giants then waived Rajai, and the A's claimed him off of waivers from San Francisco.
Morris was beyond brutal for the Pirates. Pittsburgh ended him paying him $12 million to pitch 84.33 bad innings. Davis was not very good for San Francisco, but he was making the major league minimum. MacFarland was not a prospect and he never did anything in the SF system before getting released. All in all, that was one of Brian Sabean's best trades post-Kent. It was right up there with giving Pittsburgh Armando Rios and Ryan Vogelsong for Jason Schmidt and John Vander Wal.
I don't know who the two pitchers are that are coming over from Toronto, but I am very happy that Rajai's bat is out of the Oakland lineup.
He just doesn't seem like someone you give up anything for, unless you actually need him...
It depends. Is Bautista the 3B or RF? If he's the 3B then Snider's in RF and a Davis/Lewis platoon in LF makes the most sense from what's on the roster right now. If the OF is Snider/Wells/Bautista, Lewis would seem to be the odd man out.
(Edit: Coke to Quintana.)
Seconded.
I don't really get what they've been up to this offseason, but I'd love to see a go-BIG move like this.
Rotoworld has the Beltre offer at 5 for 64. That's a lot of years, I think, but it's not my money. The Rangers are in for a dogfight if the A's get Beltre.
Dave Littlefield was in full-on save-his-job mode, and trying to catch lighting in a bottle with Morris.
I'm happy to see Davis doing fairly well. It was apparent that he was never going to get a shot at a job in Pittsburgh.
That may be true going forward. However, Davis was better than a 4th or 5th outfielder in Oakland, offensively at least. Here are the top 27 AL outfielders over the last two seasons in Runs Created:
1 Shin-Soo Choo 234
2 Carl Crawford 221
3 Ichiro Suzuki 221
4 Nick Markakis 205
5 Nick Swisher 200
6 Ben Zobrist 194
7 Bobby Abreu 193
8 Jose Bautista 190
9 Johnny Damon 186
10 Michael Cuddyer 179
11 Denard Span 179
12 Curtis Granderson 175
13 Torii Hunter 173
14 Vernon Wells 172
15 J.D. Drew 171
16 Nelson Cruz 166
17 Adam Jones 148
18 Franklin Gutierrez 147
19 Alexis Rios 147
20 B.J. Upton 146
21 David DeJesus 142
22 David Murphy 140
23 Scott Podsednik 136
24 Delmon Young 134
25 Juan Rivera 131
26 Magglio Ordonez 128
27 Rajai Davis 126
Rajai made $1.35 million this year. He also sucked this year. I can't see him getting a big raise in arb. I doubt that less than $2 million is the difference between signing Beltre or not signing him.
Now he can be reunited with Jose Bautista. So many great moments they shared in Altoona.
At age 25 and just a middle reliever in AA, it's fairly obvious why no one ranks Magnuson a top prospect, though his minor league numbers, after a poor first season in the pros, look decent. It's notable that J.P. Ricciardi, in his 7th draft for Toronto, struck out. He had five first round or first round sandwich picks and not one of them is rated by anyone as a great prospect:
16 *Kevin Ahrens (minors) 3B
21 J. P. Arencibia C
38 *Brett Cecil LHP
45 *Justin Jackson (minors) SS
56 *Trystan Magnuson (minors) RHP
Marc Rzepczynski, who was selected in the 5th round, has done the most of any Jays taken in that draft in the majors. I should add that Ricciardi thought he was drafting Stanley Wojciehowicz with that pick but a spelling error gave him Rzepczynski, instead.
This looks like a pretty desultory lot, but I think you're missing at least a few guys. Josh Hamilton, for one, has had 180 RC over the past two seasons; he would have made the list on his 2010 season alone.
Marc Rzepczynski, who was selected in the 5th round, has done the most of any Jays taken in that draft in the majors
Erm... you are aware that Brett Cecil pitched 170 innings with a 98 ERA+ as a 23-year-old in the AL East this year? And that J.P.Arencibia won the PCL MVP this year?
It was a bad draft given the picks he had, sure. But it wasn't a total washout.
You're right. I generated the list from Play Index on B-ref: Spanning Multiple Seasons or entire Careers, Playing in the AL, From 2009 to 2010, Played 50% of games at LF, CF or RF, (requiring RC>=125), sorted by greatest Runs Created
I guess that list excluded anyone who didn't play only in the American League?
Aware? Not really. My intention was to say, despite so many top picks in the draft, "not one of them is rated by anyone as a great prospect." Good? Sure. Great? Nope.
Magnus ver Magnusson is the greatest strongman ever, and he is coming to your house to crush your tiny head for that joke.
This is a far cry from "Rajai Davis, Untouchable Outfield God" that I kept hearing last year when I suggested the Red Sox should try and get him.
Magnús Ver Magnússon won the World's Strongest Man competition four times. Mariusz Pudzianowski surpassed Magnússon. The Polish steroid freak won it five times.
Rich, I hope you know all this stuff through the power of google and not off the top of your head.
In other A's news, Oakland's new mayor-elect is pushing for a ballpark at Victory Court already. There is hope in Oakland now that Dellums will be gone.
I wasn't aware that Thomas Inch ever went by that name...
Rich, this is kind of a weird axe to grind. Cecil and Rzepcynski aren't rated as great prospects, or prospects of any kind, because they're both already perfectly adequate major-league pitchers with decent chances of becoming above-average starters. They both walk too many guys, Rzepcynski in particular, but he's 24 and Cecil is 23 and they've pitched 125 and 266 major-league innings, respectively, over the last two seasons with essentially league-average results. Which is absolutely nothing to sniff at. Throw in Arencibia and that's pretty much a draft I'd take most times out of 10.
I guess that list excluded anyone who didn't play only in the American League?
Still not clear where Hamilton gets left off - and no, since the list you posted in [18] includes Podsednik, for one.
Yes, I looked it up. I actually thought that the American strong man who hosts that show, Bill Kazmaier, had won it more times than Magnús Ver Magnússon. But I was wrong, and then counted up the times Mariusz Pudzianowski had won.
Still not clear where Hamilton gets left off - and no, since the list you posted in [18] includes Podsednik, for one.
I don't know. I just ran the Play Index. There are probably a few others besides Hamilton who belong on there but are not listed, too.
96 games CF (56 in '09, 40 in '10)
92 games LF (all in '10)
24 games RF (all in '09)
19 games DH
Two options would be really useful here. One would be an "OF" option, which I'm surprised isn't there, considering we don't have exact LF/CF/RF data for all of baseball history, do we? The other would be a "combined at all specified positions" option, which could also be used to combine positions other than OF, so that would be cool.
-- MWE
Farquhar (whose name reminds me of the Cosby Show) uses pretty different two arm slots regularly - who else does this?
He is if you suffered from chronic insomnia in the summer of 2002 and had ESPN. They showed World's Strongest Man almost nightly.
He would have, if they hadn't forced him to stop competing.
Right now it looks like a Snider/Wells/Davis OF (though Snider/Davis/Wells would be better) with Bautista at third. But I don't expect AA is done.
If we're talking strongmen, you can't leave out two of the greatest - Louis Cyr and Angus McAskill.
I worked at a restaurant named for Angus Macaskill. Of course, this was back in the days before restaurants had websites
Cyr was a badass. I'd never heard of MacAskill before, but he seems like an interesting fella as well.
I agree, but if the season was to start today, you'd probably have this kind of setup:
C: Arencibia/Molina
1B: Lind
2B: Hill
SS: Escobar
3B: Bautista
LF: Snider
CF: Wells
RF: Davis
DH: Lewis
Right now, there's a spot open for him. And just because I've got him there as the DH doesn't mean that he and Snider, and maybe even Wells, can't switch back and forth between OF and DH just to keep them all sharp and rested. I imagine Anthopoulos has stuff in the works that we don't know about yet, but also I see him as a guy who doesn't like to pick up his foot without knowing where he's going to put it down.
Am I seeing things, or could that be the deepest Jays' hitting order in nearly a decade? Granted, you'd have to assume that Lind & Hill bounce back from how terrible they were last year, & Snider plays a full year, & Wells doesn't revert back to pre-Rios-trade form, & you'd have to be OK w/ Lewis as the DH (tho I imagine DH would mostly be a field-day-off type of slot in this configuration). But aside from all that, says Peter Gammons, even if Bautista regresses some from last year (which you'd have to assume), that ain't half bad, especially given all the McDonalds and Overbays that once grounded out on the reg up north.
I'm curious to see how much love Bautista will get in the MVP voting. Seems like the type of guy no one will put 1st (didn't play for a contender) but those same voters will have no problem putting him #2. I don't know why, but Ihave a good feeling about the 2011 club. Maybe it's just the offseason talking...
They are kind of redundant. As to the DH thing, that'll likely be addresses later in the offseason. After all, that lineup is just based on the currently signed talent, and there's still months before spring training starts, which is plenty of time to find a decent hitting candidate for the DH slot (unless you're the Mariners).
I agree. I think the 2011 Jays can finish above .500, and if everything goes right, might match their 2010 win total.
What they need to do is replace Lewis with a better hitter. Davis is a good defensive CF while Lewis is a below average outfielder, even though he can run fast.
You just want the Jays to give Manny 2 years and about 20% of their budget, have him play horribly and be miserable in the second year of the deal, and then he ends up retiring on a minimum salary with the A's. You loved Frank Thomas, didn't you.
I hadn't thought of that, but, sure, that works.
Is this a serious question? I guess if by 'redundant' you mean they're both black outfielders who once played for the Giants, but otherwise I don't see it.
No, I mean they both have similar skill sets-- can play CF, speedy, don't get on base or hit for enough power to merit starting in the corners.
Career lines:
Lewis- .272/.348/.418/.766
Davis- .281/.330/.383/.713
Davis has more speed and actually plays CF, but unless the Jays plan to move Vern off center, there's not a huge benefit to having Davis out there. Having both in the same lineup seems a little redundant, especially if one is playing RF and the other is at DH.
He's just goofing.
Fred Lewis cannot play CF. He is a poor defensive corner outfielder. Davis has more range, a better arm and gets better reads on the ball. He is also noticably faster than Lewis, who probably has more power potential and slightly better on base skills than Lewis. Davis is a better fit for the Toronto club as currently constituted.
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