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Blue Jays have ‘progressed beyond just talking’ with George Springer?

George Springer is one of the most prominent of the many free agents the Blue Jays are reportedly exploring this offseason, but the Jays’ initial interest in Springer seems to be developing.  According to’s Shi Davidi, the Jays have “progressed beyond just talking” with Springer, which would seem to indicate that Toronto has issued at least one offer to the former World Series MVP.

Such a step doesn’t necessarily indicate that a deal could be close, or even that Springer is the Blue Jays’ top free-agent target.  However, the Jays already made one early signing in bringing Robbie Ray back to the club on a one-year contract, and the wide net Toronto is seemingly casting over so many free agents could indicate that the Blue Jays are looking to strike while many other teams are still figuring out their payrolls or (along those same lines) planning to wait to make moves later in the offseason in order to find bargains.  Davidi opines that the Jays first seem to be looking at position players in order to “nail down their lineup adds, figure out what’s staying, and then trade to get pitching help.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 29, 2020 at 11:44 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. A triple short of the cycle Posted: November 29, 2020 at 03:28 PM (#5991512)
So you're saying they made it to first base?
   2. Walt Davis Posted: November 29, 2020 at 03:58 PM (#5991514)
An interesting move given:

Vlad 115 OPS+
Gurriel 138
Grichuk 114
Teoscar 146
Tellez 139

Springer looks to be the best defensively but Grichuk has been OK in CF and Hernandez passable. Anyway, things clear up if Vlad can move back to 3B then Tellez and probably Gurriel split 1B/DH. Grichuk is under contract for 3/$31 so he's tradable. He's been up and down, supposedly terrible defensively this year killing his offensive bounceback and just bad overall last year -- which I suppose makes him most likley to be 4th OF if Vlad can't shift back. Gurriel is under contraact for 3/$15 so easily tradable but why would you want to? Three years of arb left on Teoscar as well.

Those are just one-year totals of course and neither Hernandez nor Tellez can be projeected to hit like that. Springer obviously is an upgrade. They're clearly a team ready for a run but they seem to need pitching a lot more than they need Springer.
   3. DCA Posted: November 29, 2020 at 10:02 PM (#5991545)
6 guys for 5 positions is never a problem. What are the chances that all 6 are healthy and productive at the same time? And even then, Vlad can nominally play 3B and Lourdes can theoretically play all over the IF.
   4. Boxkutter Posted: November 29, 2020 at 10:29 PM (#5991549)
I think they may (wisely) be planning for Teoscar to come back to earth. He's never hit anything like the way he did last season, so he's probably in line for quite a bit of regression. Closer to his 0.8 to 1.0 WAR and 105 wRC+ he usually puts up.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: November 30, 2020 at 03:03 AM (#5991560)
6 guys for 5 positions is never a problem.

That depends on how much adding that new 6th guy costs you and whether you'd be better off spending that money on your #1 or #2 SP.

Lourdes can theoretically play all over the IF.

I'm pretty confident the Jays decided reality did not support theory.
   6. Paul d mobile Posted: November 30, 2020 at 12:09 PM (#5991604)
Upgrading your CF defence is supporting your pitching though.

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