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Monday, January 09, 2023

Blue Jays To Sign Brandon Belt

7:58pm: Belt is guaranteed $9.3MM, reports Kaitlyn McGrath of the Athletic (on Twitter).

7:51pm: The Blue Jays are signing Brandon Belt to a one-year contract, reports Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle (Twitter link). The veteran heads to Toronto after spending his entire career as a member of the Giants.

A fifth-round pick by San Francisco in 2009, Belt reached the majors two seasons later. He played in 63 games as a rookie and took hold of the primary first base job by his second season. Belt was a key contributor on San Francisco’s 2012 World Series team, hitting .275/.360/.421 over 145 games. Injuries limited him to 61 regular season contests during the 2014 season but he was healthy enough to contribute to San Francisco’s third title in five years that postseason.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 09, 2023 at 09:29 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 10, 2023 at 11:25 AM (#6112656)
For this to make sense, Kirk has to catch a lot.
   2. My name is Votto, and I love to get Moppo Posted: January 10, 2023 at 11:52 AM (#6112664)
Yeah, he's not playing at 1B over Vlad. Belt is trending down, but he's quietly a very good hitter when he's healthy, almost always well above league average in OBP.
   3. Krusty Posted: January 10, 2023 at 12:11 PM (#6112665)
I kind of really like this move for Toronto. It's fairly low risk for them and it's essentially a bet that Belt's 2022 was driven more by injury than by decline. I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up turning in a very nice season and in the event that he doesn't, it's no great loss.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: January 10, 2023 at 01:50 PM (#6112693)
I'd forgotten how well he hit 2020-21. Alas, adjusting for the lower offense of 2022, his 2022 looks pretty similar to his 2019.

For this to make sense, Kirk has to catch a lot.

Not really. He was probably only slated for 70-80 C starts and 50 DH starts anyway (74/49 last year). So he continues to get (nearly) all the DH starts against LHP, Belt gets most of those vs RHP.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 10, 2023 at 02:28 PM (#6112707)
Not really. He was probably only slated for 70-80 C starts and 50 DH starts anyway (74/49 last year). So he continues to get (nearly) all the DH starts against LHP, Belt gets most of those vs RHP.

Well, that's assuming Belt is a better hitter vs. RHP than Kirk or Jansen is. At this stage in their careers, I'm not sure that's true.
   6. Moses Taylor loves a good maim Posted: January 10, 2023 at 02:47 PM (#6112712)
This feels high for a platoon DH coming off a bad year. Even with the jump in salaries. Longoria got 1/$4mil, Wil Meyers got 1/$7.5mil. Then again, JD Martinez got 1/$10mil, Gallo 1/$11mil, and Drury 2/$17mil.
   7. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 10, 2023 at 06:10 PM (#6112752)
it's essentially a bet that Belt's 2022 was driven more by injury than by decline.
He'll be 35 in April, so that's maybe not the best bet...
   8. John Northey Posted: January 10, 2023 at 10:46 PM (#6112775)
Worst case - he flops and the Jays are out $9.5 mil and a few DH PA's for Kirk/Springer/Vlad. Ends up being either released or used as a PH for Kevin Keirmeier.
Best case - he hits like it is 2021 (157 wRC+) and the Jays give him DH nearly all the time allowing Kirk/Springer/Vlad more full rest time vs partial rest at DH.

I don't see the downside.
   9. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: January 10, 2023 at 11:04 PM (#6112777)
.138 ISO off of a 12.6% Barrel%. If healthy (big if), I like his chances of putting up a big season seemingly out of nowhere. Especially now that he's outside of SF and the shift will be banned.

   10. Walt Davis Posted: January 11, 2023 at 02:56 PM (#6112845)
Well, that's assuming Belt is a better hitter vs. RHP than Kirk or Jansen is. At this stage in their careers, I'm not sure that's true.

That's an argument to not sign Belt in the first place ... and I'm not sure I disagree. But presumably they signed him to play him. My point is that regardless of Belt's presence on the roster, Kirk was most likely scheduled for about 80 starts at C and 50 at DH and this signing doesn't affect that at all.

The side info: Pretty much every team uses a 100/60 to 80/80 C split these days. Realmuto, Rutschman and there must be a couple of guys not springing to mind are the only guys who might make it to 120-130 C starts. And theoretically Kirk could do 80 at C and 80 at DH but the Jays will want to give him a full day's rest every week I bet because that's how teams do it nowadays. Sure, plans change and if Kirk and Jansen are both posting 130 OPS+ again, Jansen's PT will increase and the Belt signing would have been something of a waste -- nice problem to have.

I like his chances of putting up a big season seemingly out of nowhere.

He had a 165 OPS+ across 2020-21.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: January 11, 2023 at 02:57 PM (#6112846)
A post so nice, I posted it twice
   12. Hombre Brotani Posted: January 11, 2023 at 04:24 PM (#6112871)
And theoretically Kirk could do 80 at C and 80 at DH but the Jays will want to give him a full day's rest every week I bet because that's how teams do it nowadays..
Belt would also let the Jays give Kirk or Vlad Jr. a full day's rest against tough righties without losing any offensive oomph. (But not Jansen. Jansen has one of the most extreme reverse platoon splits I can remember.)
   13. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 11, 2023 at 04:35 PM (#6112873)
Belt would also let the Jays give Kirk or Vlad Jr. a full day's rest against tough righties without losing any offensive oomph. (But not Jansen. Jansen has one of the most extreme reverse platoon splits I can remember.)

Vlad also has a big reverse split, and Kirk has none.

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