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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, June 06, 2023Bobby Bolin, former Giants pitcher, dead at 84
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1. The Duke Posted: June 06, 2023 at 06:08 PM (#6131693)A fine pitcher, a very solid career. RIP.
1961 - BOBBY Bolin (rookie card)
1962 - BOB Bolin
1963 - BOB Bolin
1964 - BOBBY Bolin
1965 - BOBBY Bolin
1966 - BOB Bolin
1967 - BOB Bolin
1968 - BOB Bolin
1969 - BOBBY Bolin
1970 - BOBBY Bolin (Seattle Pilots!)
1971 - BOBBY Bolin
1972 - BOBBY Bolin
1973 - BOB Bolin
"Bobby" wins it, 7-6, as the "Bob" bullpen coughs up a late lead.
RIP, Bob(by).
P.S. Bob(by) never pitched for the Pilots - he was traded to them in December 1969, but of course the team moved to Milwaukee in March.
there are 30 Pilots cards in the 1970 set, including manager Dave Bristol and the team card - which was taken from a photo in early March in Arizona, so they still were wearing Pilots uniforms. that's how Bobby's picture came about.
it's a weird set. ok, Tommy Davis isn't in it because he left for Houston late in the 1969 season.
but INFs Ray Oyler and Gus Gil each got more than 200 (admittedly terrible) PA, yet aren't in the set. but Diego Segui, was was in the same trade in Dec 1969 that sent both he and Oyler to Oakland, he got a card.
similarly, Ron Clark was traded with Don Mincher to Oakland in Jan 1970, and Mincher got a Pilots card but Clark did not in spite of (ok, awful) 180 PA.
backup C Jim Pagliaroni (bizarre but true; he later became the direct boss of a 1990s girlfriend of mine in the consumer goods industry) had a 122 OPS+ in 127 PA as the backup C, but no card. he was released in November, though. Pags immediately became a sales rep and I no doubt made way more money as an executive for a Fortune 500 company than the measly 30 grand he got as a catcher in 1969. (maybe a few of you saw him talking Pilots as a speaker at the 2006 SABR convention in, of course, Seattle.)
Future Cy Young Award bionic RP Mike Marshall didn't get a card, either, in spite of going 3-10 and making 14 (often terrible) starts.
Ageless George Brunet made 11 starts for the Pilots, but he was shipped to Houston in December so no card for him.
finally, Jim Bouton understandably didn't get a card because he was traded to Houston in late August - but that's still a damn shame.
"rabbit hole" conclusion (and I have most of these cards in my closet, still): if you were a youngster in Seattle for that glorious/infamous season and you expected to see all your heroes on cardboard - yeah, not so much.
this was more a 1970 preview set and a nostalgic look back at the year that was.
while Tommy Davis, Mike Marshall, Gary Bell, Ray Oyler, and Gus Gil played for the Pilots in 1969, they aren't in the 1970 set but ARE in the 1969 set.
"Ball Four" author Jim Bouton pitched in 73 games combined for the Pilots and Astros in 1969 and in 29 more for the Astros in 1970, yet did not appear in the 1970 Topps set. Bouton oddly had been sold by the Yankees to the Pilots in June 1968, before the Pilots ever played a MLB season. He could have been in the 1969 set, considering that non-entities like John Morris, Roland Sheldon, Jose Vidal, and Mike Ferraro got cards.
Ferraro had hit .181 in 89 PA for the Yankees in 1968, and went 0-for-4 as a Pilot. Morris had a 6.39 ERA in 6 games. Vidal went 5-for-26 before being released in May. Sheldon's final MLB appearance came in 1966 !
Ron Clark had 180 PA for the Pilots, but the 3B was acquired in a trade in June 1969 and shipped away in another one in January 1970. OF Steve Whitaker got a 1969 Topps card with the expansion AL - oops, Kansas City Royals. He was taken from the Yankees in the Dec 1968 expansion draft, and not traded to the Pilots until April Fool's Day (with John Gelnar for - wait for it - Lou Piniella). Whitaker had 130 PA as a Pilot but was traded in December 1969, so he's a 1970 Giant for Topps (3 for 27, and that's a wrap on his career).
Pagliaroni - who had a sac fly in his lone appearance as a Red Sock back in 1955 at age 17 - got 127 PA after arriving from the A's in May and as noted above was released in November. He's an A in the 1969 set.
Fred Talbot made 16 starts for the Pilots, but he started the season as a Yankee and ended it as an A.
Brunet, the AL loss leader in 1967-68 for the Angels - and a former Kansas City A, Milwaukee Brave, and Houston Colt .45 - became a Pilot in July 1969 and was traded away that December.
summing up, it's incredible how many trades the 1969-70 PilotBrewers made.
Gosger hit .109 for the Pilots in 63 PA before rebounding to a sizzling .133 mark (2 for 15) for the 1969 World Champion Mets (Gosger was traded for Goossen ! #ducksforcover).
Gosger also played for the 1973 Miracle Mets who reached Game 7 of the World Series, with a 60 OPS+ in 102 homerless PA. He was not on either postseason roster.
the others who played for the Mets in 1969 and 1973:
Seaver Koosman McAndrew McGraw
Grote Dyer Boswell Harrelson Garrett CJones Kranepool
It is just insane that this happened so soon before the season started, although I guess there was a similar situation a couple of years later when the Padres almost moved to Washington. Had the Pilots sold any tickets to people in Seattle at that point? Was there TV or radio coverage set up in Milwaukee? And how did the American League manage to award a franchise to an ownership group that went bankrupt within a year?
Piniella appeared on three different rookie cards before being named Rookie of the Year - for a 4th team !
1964 Topps Rookie - Indians, with C Mike Brumley
1968 Topps Rookie - Senators, with OF Richie Scheinblum
1969 Topps Rookie - Pilots, with INF Marv Staehle
1969 AL Rookie of the Year - Royals
a 5th team - Orioles - is where Piniella gets his first MLB AB, in 1964 at age 20.
he had been Indians property, but is traded to the Orioles in August 1964 and gets his (unsuccessful) AB on Sept. 4.
traded to Indians March 1966, finally surfaces with the big club in Sept 1968 and goes 0 for 5.
As noted earlier, becomes a Royal on April 1, 1969 and immediately thrives.
Brumley? he was the Senators' top C in 1964 with 112 starts. but OPS+ of only 74 OPS+.
splits the C duties in 1965 with Doug Camilli and Don Zimmer (!), who in his final season made the only 27 starts of his MLB career behind the dish (for manager Gil Hodges, his old Brooklyn Dodgers teammate).
Brumley manages 2 singles in 18 AB in 1967, and it's over.
sort of.
here comes Mike Brumley (2.0), his son, who somehow gets 635 AB of 48 OPS+ for six teams in eight years - mainly at SS.
Brumley 2.0 was drafted in 1980 and in 1983, and traded in 1984 with throw-in HOFer Dennis Eckersley to the Cubs for Bill Buckner.
traded in 1988 to the Padres with throw-in Keith Moreland for HOFer Rich Gossage.
traded to Tigers in 1989 for Luis Salazar, and in 1990 for Larry Sheets.
then the fun begins, as Brumley 2.0 signs as a free agent with the Mariners in 1990, the Red Sox in 1991, the Astros in 1993, the A's in 1994, the Marlins also in 1994, and the Astros again in 1995.
ok, I need a nap.
but learning that Zimmer factoid made it all worthwhile. from his SABR bio:
"Zimmer hit a home run in his first game [as a Senator], and during his stay with the Senators he added two more positions to his résumé.
"In 1964 he played a few games in the outfield, and near the end of the season, Hodges wanted to pinch-hit for his catcher, Mike Brumley, and asked Zimmer if he could catch.
"Zimmer responded honestly: 'Well, I caught in fast-pitch softball in Cincinnati when I was a kid, but that was the extent of it, sure!'
So Zimmer pinch-hit and caught the last four innings of the game. After the season, Hodges suggested he take catching seriously and recommended going to the Instructional League that fall."
Bouton played the remainder of the 1968 season for Seattle Angels in the PCL, so the Pilots must have had some kind of arrangement with the Angels, who were of course a California farm team.
Topps also tried to guess who would actually be with the team on opening day. The 1970 sets were supposed to represent the 1970 teams. Players who played a lot in 1969 may have been dropped if they didn't figure into plans for 1970. Oyler did play some in 1970 but not for the A's. Gil did play some for the 1970 Brewers but he was in the minors at the start of the season. So Topps guessed correctly there. As the series went on certain players may have been dropped because of this in favor of rookies.
Grich 8220 PA, 125 OPS+, 71 WAR, 6 AS
Doerr 8030 PA, 115 OPS+, 51 WAR, 9 AS but actually in the HoF
Doerr missed 1945 but otherwise played through the war but he also maintained his wartime WAR in his post-War career. (Yes I know that sounds silly.) He put up 2.7 WAR in his final year at 33, retiring due to back problems.
Anyway, Grich wins it easily on WAR but benching an HoFer is rare for an all-name team. Other 2B Bobby's -- Richardson, Avila, Knopp, each an All-Star -- that might normally start for such a team don't even get a nod. Grich did play a bit of SS early on but you've got HoFer Bobby Wallace (70 WAR) there.
(Listed as "Bobby" not "Bob" or "Robert" or "Roberto" at b-r.)
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