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Monday, August 01, 2022
The Boston Red Sox are finalizing a deal to acquire outfielder Tommy Pham from the Cincinnati Reds, sources told ESPN’s Jeff Passan on Monday
It wasn’t immediately known the full extent of the trade package.
News of Pham’s addition came shortly after Boston agreed to send longtime catcher Christian Vazquez to the Houston Astros.
Whether the Red Sox would be a buyer or seller before Tuesday’s trade deadline had been one of the biggest question marks in baseball. Boston has struggled since the All-Star break, dropping to 51-52 and into last place in the AL East. However, it’s just 3.5 games behind the final AL wild card spot entering Monday night’s play.
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1. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 01, 2022 at 07:40 PM (#6089290)Sure the joke is old, but still makes me chuckle.
Can Tommy catch? The Red Sox do not have a catcher any longer.
I don't follow these things too closely, can a more knowledgeable Red Sox fan enlighten me as to the point of this acquisition? Yes, I know the the Red Sox OF is bad, but this is hardly moving the needle.
Over his last 1000 PA, he has an OPS+ of 94.
Well they had a guy who could do these things last year but they changed him over for JBJ. You remember Hunter (2WAR this season so far) Renfroe?
This is 100% speculation on my part, but Renfroe had an awful ALCS last year--it was like watching an utterly broken player for those 6 games--and I wonder if the Red Sox thought (a) he's about to get relatively expensive in arbitration, (b) still has years of control that is a valuable asset we can flip, and (c) may not be worth the arb $ if this is how he performs in the playoffs (honestly he looked utterly adrift in that series, to where you wondered if animal sacrifice or an intervention would be needed).
The JBJ contract was the cost of getting the extra 2 prospects in the deal (which, naturally, at least this year don't seem to have worked out), but I think the Red Sox initially thought they'd be playing JBJ as a defensive sub and against RHP only, and, well... that part hasn't worked out. Hernandez got hurt, Arroyo got hurt, and suddenly Franchy Cordero is patrolling RF.
Pham is the sort of guy who's on a reasonable deal for next year ($6 mil), and could get flipped at the deadline if the Red Sox are out of it, and might get you a lottery ticket or two if he's playing well next year--this seems like the sort of deal you want to do if you're Bloom and you don't think you're going to be in the playoffs in 2023 (and I suspect Bloom is realistic that it's unlikely to be the case). Always keep moveable parts around you can flip for lottery tickets; even if you hit on only 1 out of 10-15 that's still useful business if the up-front cost isn't a lot (and in the case of Pham it won't be).
I still am really kind of hoping that all the $ cleared from the books for 2023 means they blow away Devers with a massive offer, but I think the Xander ship has sailed and they'll take the draft pick when he turns down the QO... But I was looking at the teams in need of a SS and I wasn't really seeing a crazy-obvious fit for Bogaerts. I mean, maybe Philly makes a huge offer? But they already have 5 guys making $20 mil/year, are they really going to add a 6th? I'm skeptical.
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This is the only way it makes sense to me.
You are not a phan of this deal?
##### no.
Seriously, though, I can't like it and I can't not like it. It's filler. He's not part of the future of this team (beyond the immediate future).
wow...p h u c k gets nannied. Impressive.
Salary dump. What are they up to?
That makes no sense to me. Like, if Boston trades Martinez they don't really need Pham for the next 2 months any more than if they don't trade Martinez. The main value they get from Pham is one less reason for Franchy Cordero to play defense, but they can get that simply by signing Joe Bivens and playing him instead of Cordero. It's not a precursor to Martinez being traded.
Oh boy, $18 million for TWO shitty outfielders!
The students are planning something!
Meanwhile, they felt like they got a good return for Vazquez, who they're not bringing back next year and don't think he'll make a huge difference in their playoff push.
I know you think Renfroe was done (based on a single series), but jeez, it's not like he had negative trade value...
Bloom tried to get cute and thought he could resuscitate JBJ, and he failed. It was a bad trade. The Sox would be a better team now, and in 2023, if they kept Renfroe.
WTF.
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