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Wednesday, April 17, 2019

Brian Cashman defends Yankees medical staff after Greg Bird injury

Is it time for the Yankees to just move on from Greg Bird?

Jim Furtado Posted: April 17, 2019 at 09:00 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 10:37 AM (#5832805)
When the injuries pile up in Queens, it's "LOLMets, amIrite? What a joke!"

When they pile up in the Bronx, it's a national tragedy.
   2. JL72 Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:04 AM (#5832813)
I don't know. It seems like it is starting to be a joke for the Yankees as well.
   3. rconn23 Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:11 AM (#5832816)
"Is it time for the Yankees to just move on from Greg Bird?"

I don't know why you would move on from Bird. Other than being a terrible defender, the complete inability to hit a decent fastball and not being able to stay healthy, he has everything you want in a player.
   4. Blastin Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:26 AM (#5832821)
When the injuries pile up in Queens, it's "LOLMets, amIrite? What a joke!"

When they pile up in the Bronx, it's a national tragedy.


Mets fans being cocky in April is a fun thing.

Anyway, Bird can go.
   5. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:30 AM (#5832825)
Mets fans being cocky in April is a fun thing.


Not being cocky, just smelling a bit of high-pocrisy from certain quarters. There's a lot of that going around.


   6. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:39 AM (#5832827)
Mets fans being cocky in April is a fun thing.


Mets fans are anything but cocky. The team is playing well and their fan base is apoplectic with rage that they have a bad 5th starter and they want to fire their manager into the sun. It would be amusing if it weren't so exhausting.


   7. Nasty Nate Posted: April 17, 2019 at 11:45 AM (#5832830)
LOLMets, amirite?
   8. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: April 17, 2019 at 02:09 PM (#5832897)
That Bird has flown?
   9. Blastin Posted: April 17, 2019 at 03:28 PM (#5832968)
You're right to some extent. I just remember my friend laughing about the Yankees being .500 last year and literally the day he said that was the day the Mets stopped playing well until July or whatever.

But honestly I'm glad the Mets seem to be good.
   10. weiss-man Posted: April 17, 2019 at 04:35 PM (#5833045)
What's the expression, I'm as happy as a Mets fan in April
   11. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 17, 2019 at 05:59 PM (#5833133)
You're right to some extent. I just remember my friend laughing about the Yankees being .500 last year and literally the day he said that was the day the Mets stopped playing well until July or whatever.

But honestly I'm glad the Mets seem to be good.



Full disclosure: I'm a lifelong Met fan.

As a kid I thought my team had a knowledgeable, passionate fan base that rated above average with other fan bases. Come to find out as an adult that they are all a bunch of raving mad lunatics. Hot take artists who are unable to enjoy anything. This team is not perfect and we all know it, but improvements have been made from last year's team and I think they will definitely contend. There are certainly exceptions particularly on this website, but Mets twitter is a red hot mess right now and the team is (after today's loss) 10-8 and they've played Washington 6 times, Atlanta 4 times, and Philly 3 times. They aren't in bad shape honestly.

Also, the Yankees will be just fine. I sure don't root for them, but they are super good and it should be a very fun pennant race in the AL East as well as the NL East.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 17, 2019 at 06:38 PM (#5833143)
Bird has had some moments where he looked pretty good, but as the injuries have accumulated those have become increasingly rare. He appears to have become Nick Johnson 2.0 - injury-prone & a slow healer. None of the injuries were career-threatening on their own, so perhaps they were all flukes and Bird will become MLB’s next Iron Man, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
   13. bunyon Posted: April 18, 2019 at 08:50 AM (#5833228)
Surely the only reason to blame the medical staff is if they misdiagnose and/or mistreat injuries? I mean, if you sign a bunch of guys who snap tendons getting out of bed, that's on the GM, not the doctors.
   14. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: April 18, 2019 at 12:15 PM (#5833274)
…[T]hey are all a bunch of raving mad lunatics. Hot take artists who are unable to enjoy anything.


That's about as apt a description as I've read.
   15. Buck Coats Posted: April 18, 2019 at 04:56 PM (#5833377)
At least Nick Johnson could hit, Bird's not even good when he's healthy
   16. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: April 18, 2019 at 05:05 PM (#5833380)

That's about as apt a description as I've read.


Thank you, Charlie. I appreciate your ability to generate measured takes and avoid hysterics.
   17. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 18, 2019 at 05:28 PM (#5833383)
At least Nick Johnson could hit, Bird's not even good when he's healthy

That's disputable. The two stretches when Bird was certifiably healthy, in 2015 and when he returned from his injury in 2017, he put up OPS numbers of .871 and .891, with a .937 in the 2017 postseason. The problem is his repeated injuries and his long recovery periods, and the question is whether he'll ever be able to break the pattern.
   18. Jose Needs an Absurd Ukulele Concert Posted: April 19, 2019 at 09:37 AM (#5833474)
The problem is his repeated injuries and his long recovery periods, and the question is whether he'll ever be able to break the pattern.


I think the bigger problem at this point is whether his body still has the abilities it had when he first came up. I've always believed that guys who play well but get injured a lot eventually reach a point where their body just has gotten too beaten up for them to play well. Effectively they age at a much greater rate due to the injuries so a guy like Bird is more like a 33 year old at this point rather than a 25 year old (or whatever age he is).

I think this is more of an issue with pitchers than position players. Guys like Harden or Prior just reach a point where even when they are "100%" the reality is they aren't 100% of their old selves. Was it Grove who said "I throw just as hard the ball just doesn't go as fast"?

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