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Friday, January 15, 2016

Buck Showalter bluntly addresses Chris Davis contract stalemate

What’s the problem?

Jim Furtado Posted: January 15, 2016 at 06:22 AM | 131 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JJ1986 Posted: January 15, 2016 at 06:40 AM (#5134784)
Who else is going to give Davis that kind of money? The Angels, maybe? I think the Orioles will end up with him if they hold firm at their offer.
   2. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:14 AM (#5134799)
"Buck Showalter bluntly addresses" - the adverb is redundant of the subject/verb combination.
   3. Transmission Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:15 AM (#5134800)
“I asked Chris during the season, ‘Chris, when you walk into a Target store, can you buy anything you want. So, how much is enough?’


This argument does not strike me as persuasive.
   4. Scott Ross Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:38 AM (#5134804)
This argument does not strike me as persuasive.


It would be decidedly more persuasive if it had been followed by, "I've been doing this job for free since 2012."
   5. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:42 AM (#5134806)
never like someone telling someone else how much they should earn unsolicited

climb those golden stairs You only have a few chances
   6. Jeltzandini Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:43 AM (#5134807)
I do like the idea of a crusty old guy who can't envision a material desire that's unavailable at Target.
   7. akrasian Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:45 AM (#5134808)
I do like the idea of a crusty old guy who can't envision a material desire that's unavailable at Target.

That IS where I bought my yacht and private jet. And I love their huge caviar section.
   8. McCoy Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:02 AM (#5134812)
You're thinking of costco
   9. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:11 AM (#5134818)
I do like the idea of a crusty old guy who can't envision a material desire that's unavailable at Target.

I dunno, doesn't Target have a fine selection of chewing tobacco? What more could Davis want?
   10. shoelesjoe Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:51 AM (#5134832)
Everybody talks about the Orioles making a 7/150 million contract offer to Davis, but how much of that is deferred and for how long? For all we know it breaks down to 7 years at $15 million per and then a million a year for the next 45 years. That would be a pretty good deal for the team, but maybe not so much for the player.
   11. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:51 AM (#5134833)
This argument does not strike me as persuasive.


Yep. It is, for example, an argument that could just as easily be applied to Angelos.
   12. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:09 AM (#5134849)
Not a big fan of the argument, but it does have merit if it's not in isolation. That argument combined with a list of reasons why his life would in other ways be better if he signed is quite valid.

Of course, people then need to understand that Davis can look around and say, "this is what players at my level make, why should I be happy with less." You don't expect 2 IT guys hired at the same time and doing the same job to make different amounts, if one did we'd be looking for personality defects in the one making less.

Bucks is just laying the ground work in case they don't get him, baseball fans have shown that they want baseball players to treat playing for their team (and their team alone) as a calling rather than a job, if Schowalter can just make that point obvious, "we offered him more than he could ever need, and he left over money," plenty of fans will be perfectly happy to hate Davis.
   13. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:32 AM (#5134863)
“I asked Chris during the season, ‘Chris, when you walk into a Target store, can you buy anything you want. So, how much is enough?’


"I want to have enough so that I never have to walk into a Target store ever again in my life."
   14. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:37 AM (#5134868)
I don't think I could survive without Target. They are great.
   15. Rally Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM (#5134875)
My theory is that there is a negligible lifestyle difference between a player who signs a 75 million dollar multiyear deal and one who signs for 200 million. Players still seek the highest dollars because:

1. Solidarity with their fellow players, they know that each contract sets the bar for the next contract.
2. To establish their place in the hierarchy - that guy just signed for 125 million and I know I'm better than he is so you have to pay me more.

My guess is that #2 is by far the stronger motivator. But I'm just speculating, I have nothing to go on. It would be nice if, just for the pure science of understanding human motivation, multiple parties would offer me 9 figure contracts for different terms and different jobs. Then I would happily detail the reasons behind my choice of one over the other.
   16. 185/456(GGC) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM (#5134876)
Did you have Caldor's up in Boston, Jose? Target reminds me of those; a nicer discount chain than Kmart or Wal-Mart.
   17. DL from MN Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:44 AM (#5134879)
You don't expect 2 IT guys hired at the same time and doing the same job to make different amounts, if one did we'd be looking for personality defects in the one making less.


This might go off the rails but that happens all the time if one of the "guys" is a woman.
   18. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:45 AM (#5134880)
Don't people making that much money pay other people to go to Target for them?
   19. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:47 AM (#5134884)
3. Nobody wants to feel they are being taken advantage of.
   20. I am going to be Frank Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:51 AM (#5134889)
I wonder when the last time Showalter step foot into any discount store/supermarket. He doesn't seem like he would shop for clothes and I don't think anyone is asking him to drop by Target to pick up milk or some paper towels.
   21. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:53 AM (#5134895)
Of course the real argument is that Chris Davis isn't worth more than $150M, but saying there's no difference between $150M and $180M for the purpose of his lifestyle is a little softer.
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:58 AM (#5134902)

I drive through a Target parking lot every day to get to and from the highway.

The store is immaculate and the prices are good - but their inventory, at least at this one, is shaky at best. If you have 8 items on your list, decent chance they ran out of at least one of them at the time you shop. Therefore, I must disagree with Mr. Showalter's thesis.
   23. Jeltzandini Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:58 AM (#5134903)
I wonder when the last time Showalter step foot into any discount store/supermarket. He doesn't seem like he would shop for clothes and I don't think anyone is asking him to drop by Target to pick up milk or some paper towels.

No idea about Showalter in particular, but I think a fair fraction of people about as rich as he is actually do lead semi-normal lives (in the offseason at least) rather than farm everything out to a personal assistant. Managers make a few million a year, not A-Rod money.
   24. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM (#5134919)
1. Solidarity with their fellow players, they know that each contract sets the bar for the next contract.
2. To establish their place in the hierarchy - that guy just signed for 125 million and I know I'm better than he is so you have to pay me more.


If #1 is even in the equation, I'd weight that 1%-99%. For the bigger salaries location and #2 are where it's at.
   25. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:16 AM (#5134922)

No idea about Showalter in particular, but I think a fair fraction of people about as rich as he is actually do lead semi-normal lives (in the offseason at least) rather than farm everything out to a personal assistant. Managers make a few million a year, not A-Rod money.


I once had the pleasure of waiving a late fee for Andy Reid at a Blockbusters in Philly.
   26. Squash Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:02 PM (#5134986)
I once had the pleasure of waiving a late fee for Andy Reid at a Blockbusters in Philly.

The Andy Reid clock management jokes write themselves here.
   27. Greg Pope Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:15 PM (#5135004)
but I think a fair fraction of people about as rich as he is actually do lead semi-normal lives (in the offseason at least) rather than farm everything out to a personal assistant.

Good point. I wonder at what level you stop doing those things. Wasn't it Bush I who didn't know how to check out in a supermarket?
   28. Ron J Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:17 PM (#5135007)
No idea about Showalter in particular, but I think a fair fraction of people about as rich as he is actually do lead semi-normal lives (in the offseason at least) rather than farm everything out to a personal assistant. Managers make a few million a year, not A-Rod money.


My stepmother saw Robert Redford in her local supermarket (upper East side). What's really interesting about that is that I know that store:

a) takes phone orders
b) delivers
   29. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM (#5135018)
I once had the pleasure of waiving a late fee for Andy Reid at a Blockbusters in Philly.


I once had the pleasure of seeing Doug Jones browsing the romantic comedies at a Blockbuster in Milwaukee and saw Dan Plesac late one night at a Burger King (on the same street as the Blockbuster).
   30. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:29 PM (#5135029)
I'm pretty sure I would have spat out my coffee had Showalter called the store chain "Tar-JAY."
   31. DL from MN Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM (#5135031)
Shame on Netflix for destroying our social interactions with local athletes.
   32. jmurph Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:35 PM (#5135035)
The Andy Reid clock management jokes write themselves here.


That's good work.
   33. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:40 PM (#5135042)
I once had the pleasure of seeing Doug Jones browsing the romantic comedies at a Blockbuster in Milwaukee and saw Dan Plesac late one night at a Burger King (on the same street as the Blockbuster).


Early in Kerry Wood's career I ran into him at the Arby's that used to be on Ashland & Belmont. Thereafter, it was easy to root for a fellow Arby's fan.
   34. 185/456(GGC) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:50 PM (#5135053)
31. DL from MN
Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:30 PM (#5135031)
Shame on Netflix for destroying our social interactions with local athletes.


When I was back in HS and working at the deli in Finast, I once sliced ham for Marlon Starling.
   35. Nasty Nate Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:50 PM (#5135054)
As a youngster, I saw Lee Smith at a supermarket.
   36. Perry Posted: January 15, 2016 at 12:58 PM (#5135066)
Wasn't it Bush I who didn't know how to check out in a supermarket?


Hadn't seen an electronic scanner, IIRC, and made the mistake of remarking on it. Believe this was when he was running for re-election in 1992, when scanners had been around a few years but he'd been president for 4.
   37. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:00 PM (#5135070)
I sold a pair of boots to Chris Hoiles at "Sunny's the Affordable Outdoor Store" (formerly Sunny's Surplus).
   38. Rally Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:09 PM (#5135083)
If #1 is even in the equation, I'd weight that 1%-99%. For the bigger salaries location and #2 are where it's at.


Players often mention solidarity as a reason to take the biggest salary. Of course they might just be saying that for PR reasons, make them seem noble instead of greedy.

Not making a value judgment here - Players have every right to the gobbles of money their play brings in.

I sold a pair of boots to Chris Hoiles at "Sunny's the Affordable Outdoor Store" (formerly Sunny's Surplus).


I bought a bottle of wine from him at a liquor store that's homerun distance from where I live. He and his wife are in the wine business, and they were making the rounds to promote the product.
   39. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:31 PM (#5135117)
I saw Clint Hurdle at the Tattered Cover bookstore in Highlands Ranch, Colorado. Not just a bookstore, but an independent bookstore! I was impressed.
   40. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:32 PM (#5135118)
Wasn't it Bush I who didn't know how to check out in a supermarket?

Hadn't seen an electronic scanner, IIRC, and made the mistake of remarking on it. Believe this was when he was running for re-election in 1992, when scanners had been around a few years but he'd been president for 4.

He saw a piece of new technology at a grocers' convention -- a scanner that could read torn bar codes -- and said "Isn't that something?" The New York Times misrepresented this as Bush being amazed by the very concept of an electronic scanner.
   41. dr. scott Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:35 PM (#5135122)
I honestly cant remember the last time I was in a Target, Walmart, or Kmart. I have a Vague memory of stopping at a Walmart in rural Georgia on the way to my moms funeral in 2009, and i remember going to a Target looking for picture frames around the same time period, but honestly can't remember going to one in the last 6 years. I'm by no means incredibly wealthy, but I do hate shopping, and don't like to drive. Amazon fulfills just about all of my non grocery store needs.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone famous shopping, but did eat dinner at a restaurant with Jeff Bridges around the time he won the Oscar (Crazy Heart?), and Margo Kidder was at a steakhouse in Livingston montana where i was eating.
   42. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:43 PM (#5135141)

No idea about Showalter in particular, but I think a fair fraction of people about as rich as he is actually do lead semi-normal lives (in the offseason at least) rather than farm everything out to a personal assistant. Managers make a few million a year, not A-Rod money.


I once had the pleasure of waiving a late fee for Andy Reid at a Blockbusters in Philly.


I once ran into Terry Mulholland and asked for his autograph on the only thing I had at hand, which was...a Blockbuster video receipt.
   43. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:45 PM (#5135145)
My two year old son once told a gathering of my family that he saw Bryce Harper at the grocery store so convincingly that I still get asked about it months later.

(It was not Bryce Harper, it was some lobsters. In a tank.)
   44. Jeltzandini Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:53 PM (#5135154)
(It was not Bryce Harper, it was some lobsters. In a tank.)

Well that's just nitpicking, isn't it.
   45. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: January 15, 2016 at 01:56 PM (#5135159)
I once had the pleasure of seeing Doug Jones browsing the romantic comedies at a Blockbuster in Milwaukee and saw Dan Plesac late one night at a Burger King (on the same street as the Blockbuster).
When I worked in Boston, I had the pleasure of seeing this exchange between a co-worker and his brother:

(Brother) "I just saw Jim Rice in Burger King."
(Co-Worker) "Did he ground into a double play?"
   46. Rob_Wood Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:00 PM (#5135166)
(It was not Bryce Harper, it was some lobsters. In a tank.)


... and you took him to the eye doctors the next day?
   47. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:03 PM (#5135171)
It was an easy mistake to make, since Jonathan Papelbon had his hands around one of the lobster's necks.
   48. Rob_Wood Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:04 PM (#5135172)
I tell this story so often that my daughter is thoroughly sick of it ... when my daughter was a baby we were in a restaurant seated at a table next to Jerry Rice. He leaned over and told my wife and me that he thought our baby was beautiful. Brings tears to my eyes, sniff sniff.
   49. Dolf Lucky Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:28 PM (#5135195)
Athletes I've seen in church: Allan Houston, Dana Kiecker, Byron Jones.
Famous people I've seen in church: The Jonas Brothers (before they were famous)
   50. Jesus Luzardo Maraschino Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:32 PM (#5135200)
My dad saw Willie Mays at an airport and said "Hey you're Willie Mays", Willie said "No I'm not" then put down his briefcase that had his name on it (Willie Mays).

As a kid at the local diner Huey Lewis walked in with a leather jacket. I was super excited.
   51. 185/456(GGC) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:42 PM (#5135211)
Back in 1987, I was flying home from Basic Training. I saw Chuck Berry in the airport. I didn't recognize him, but the shoeshine man did. Makes sense. I went to Basic at Ft. Leonard Wood and was flying home from Saint Louis.
   52. Rally Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:45 PM (#5135214)
Saw Jim Kaat once walking down the street. I didn't say anything because I wasn't 100% sure it was him. Later found out he was broadcasting in that city on that day, so 99.9% sure it was him. He's one of the two ballplayers I named my cat after (Brian Downing Kaat).

Brian was born in 2001, 18 years after Kaat retired, and 9 years after Downing. I doubt I'll ever name a cat after a current player. I won't have more than 2 at a time so there's a waiting list. When Brian's time is up my next male cat will be called Sean Jr., but will be spelled Chone.
   53. MNB Posted: January 15, 2016 at 02:51 PM (#5135220)
I sold a painting to David Morse once when I was working at a gallery in Philly. It was while "Hack" was on the air. I didn't really think he was seriously interested since he looked so scruffy (and holy crap he's tall). He came back and my boss, who hadn't been there the first time he came in, asked me, "Do you know how that is?" very excitedly. I just replied, "Yeah, the guy I helped last week." She explained who he was to me and then I went up to him and asked him what it was like getting beat up by Bjork.
   54. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 03:04 PM (#5135231)
I once had the pleasure of waiving a late fee for Andy Reid at a Blockbusters in Philly.


What was he watching?
   55. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 03:05 PM (#5135233)
I used to develop pictures in a photo lab, and one of our regular clients was Bill Cowher's family. That was always kind of surprising, to be cranking through a big rack of film and see a shot of The Jaw in swim trunks on a beach somewhere pop up on the screen.
   56. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 15, 2016 at 03:36 PM (#5135249)
Famous people I've seen in church: The Jonas Brothers (before they were famous)


...which gives rise to the question, "On what day did the Lord create the Jonas Brothers, and could he not have rested on that day too?"
   57. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: January 15, 2016 at 03:54 PM (#5135257)
a few more, as if anybody cares:

- Ben McDonald, buying socks at aforementioned Sunny’s. I said, “hey Ben,” and got a slow, icy turn and stare. He was pitching that night so I wished him luck, and he said thanks and shook my hand, apparently relieved at no autograph request. He got lit up that night.

- Sam Horn in full O’s uniform on Eutaw Street, about 20 minutes before gametime, going in to the Warehouse. He was my favorite player. I shook his hand and told him he was my hero. The odd thing is that Eutaw St was packed, and nobody seemed to be paying him any attention. He just walked right through the crowd.

- Andres Galarraga in a bar in Denver, about 1996. He signed a torn piece of brown paper for me. His chest and arms were huge (possibly because of beer goggles).

- Bought a small bag of pot from a friend on a street corner in Capitol Hill, around 2001. We executed a padded handshake and walked about a block, playing it cool. I turned around and John McCain was right behind me. I have no idea how long he had been there. A car with AZ tags pulled up and he got in and rode off.

- Just last week, walked past Michael Steele on a corner in NW DC. I don’t know what he’s up to. Meant to google him but forgot.
   58. Walt Davis Posted: January 15, 2016 at 04:09 PM (#5135263)
I once served dessert to Billy Graham ... and as I've mentioned several times now played softball against Rick Fox and Pete Chilcutt. Mia Hamm a couple of times in restaurants after she was famous everywhere. Dallas Comegys in a grocery store (not exactly a big name even at the time).

Anyhoo, back to Davis:

7/$150 is, by baseball contract standards only, a bit of a slap in the face. In AAV, in RAW dollars, that's less than Howard, Fielder, Tex and AGon. That's just 1B and those guys were signed YEARS ago. It's a bit less than Ellsbury got a couple of years ago, just $8 M more than what Crawford got 5 years. Revenues through the roof and an offer worse than those, I can see where he'd think that's not fair.

That said, teams are wise to be wary of Davis on a long-term contract. Of course that's true of almost every player. 6/$150 would get it done or 6/$140 with a $25 M team option and $10 M buyout.
   59. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 15, 2016 at 04:17 PM (#5135271)
I don’t know what he’s up to. Meant to google him but forgot.


There's still time!
   60. Greg Pope Posted: January 15, 2016 at 04:25 PM (#5135283)
Just last week, walked past Michael Steele on a corner in NW DC. I don’t know what he’s up to. Meant to google him but forgot.

Haven't heard a thing since she quit the Bangles in 2010.
   61. Tom Nawrocki Posted: January 15, 2016 at 04:44 PM (#5135290)
I saw Harry Caray having lunch at P.J. Clarke's in New York City one afternoon when the Cubs-Mets had been rained out. I said hello, and he said hi back in a very friendly manner. The people I were with weren't fans, or else I would have asked Harry to have lunch with me, and I got the feeling he would have said yes. I've always regretted not taking advantage of that.
   62. BDC Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:15 PM (#5135302)
In Boston, in 1986, I saw Dick Schofield and Kirk McCaskill wandering around the Faneuil Hall marketplace on the morning before Game One of the ALCS, just being tourists like me. They had their Angels jackets on and everything. It was a simpler time.
   63. Perry Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:29 PM (#5135306)
Was standing watching a Clash show at Austin Coliseum, looked over and the guy standing next to me was Joe Ely. Got to make a little small talk, he was very nice.

Years ago I bought a Phonak cycling jersey when Tyler Hamilton was on the team. Was wearing it on a ride near Boulder one day, stopped at a 4-way in a little town and saw a guy getting a soda out of a machine outside a C-store, wearing the same jersey. I thought cool, another Tyler fan, and rode over to say hi. It was Tyler. He bought me a soda.
   64. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:29 PM (#5135307)
I once ran into Morley Safer in midtown Manhattan. Literally ran into him. Neither one of us was watching where he was going.

I once spent ten minutes in the Lincoln Memorial gift shop with Newt Gingrich. We were the only people in there except for the clerk. Made small talk about some Civil War coffee table book or some such. Never let on that I recognized him. My wife and kids walked in a few minutes after he left, so I said, "Hey, you just missed Newt Gingrich." Kids are like, "What kind of name is Newt Gingrich?" (They were like 7 and 9 at the time.)

I can also confirm that Sam Shepherd used to park his own Corvette.
   65. Dr. Vaux Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:39 PM (#5135311)
I'm amazed at how few of these names I recognize--and also how many of them.
   66. Bote Man Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:51 PM (#5135316)
My father's grandmother served tea and biscuits to Abraham Lincoln when he and his entourage stopped at their farm at Fort Bayard in northwest D.C. on his return from Gettysburg.

::drops mic::
   67. Howie Menckel Posted: January 15, 2016 at 05:55 PM (#5135320)

I saw Steve Howe in a bar in Chicago during one of his many suspensions from baseball in the 1990s, drinking Budweiser and doing shots with a couple of gals. I saw Billy Martin with drinking buddy Art Fowler in a bar near Fenway Park in 1986.

I'd like to tell you that each lived happily ever after, but....
   68. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 06:23 PM (#5135332)
I sold an orange juice to the guy who played Miles on Lost.

Later, at the same place, I tried to upsell someone who turned out to be Drew Barrymore. I didn't recognize her until she said, "No, thanks, I live in Los Angeles."
   69. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: January 15, 2016 at 06:49 PM (#5135338)
I grabbed Paul Hornung's luggage from the carousel when it eluded his grasp. He said thanks.
   70. Howie Menckel Posted: January 15, 2016 at 07:01 PM (#5135342)

"I grabbed Paul Hornung's luggage from the carousel"

is that what the kids are calling it these days?
   71. tfbg9 Posted: January 15, 2016 at 07:30 PM (#5135343)
I saw a tipsy, slumming Warren Beatty in the old Kiev restaurant once at 4AM, after closing the bar down the block. I said "hi", he said "hi" back with a friendly grin. Although Warren had no scarf, much less an apricot one, he _was_ scarfing kielbasa and eggs.
   72. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 15, 2016 at 07:42 PM (#5135345)
In an instructional league for high schoolers, Jim Lefebvre used my bat to demonstrate how to hit the outside slider.
   73. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 15, 2016 at 07:43 PM (#5135346)
kielbasa and eggs
That sounds like an absolutely fantastic late-night/early-morning combo when you're drunk. Hell, it sounds good now.
   74. Zonk demands an audit of your post Posted: January 15, 2016 at 07:54 PM (#5135350)
John Cusack once asked a friend and I, in the absolutely nicest and most polite way ever, that we cease spilling drinks on his friends and excuse ourselves from the bar table we had joined uninvited.
   75. McCoy Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:01 PM (#5135353)
I gave Harrison Ford a scotch, ran a gift basket up to Seth Myers' room and ran into his brother who looks just like him. Served Patti LaBelle, Bobby Hoying, and Mario Lemiuex ribs. Served Andy Reid, Doug Glanville, Mike Lieberthal, Pat Croce, Tug McGraw, Piazza's family and David Spade dinner. Hosted Sugar Ray's drummer's wedding. Tried to keep Matt Geiger from jumping off a balcony. Offered a banana to Tori Amos, Reese's Pieces to Alanis Morrissette, and kind of #### blocked Brian Adams. Had Kim Kardashian get in my way and Elizabeth Banks smile at me. Showed Colin Powell how to get around and served Mike Huckabee while he was preparing for a speech. Shared drinks with Rocco DiSpirito.
   76. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:03 PM (#5135355)
I used to take tennis lessons with some friends at the Waltham Racquet Club. Once on our way from the tennis courts to the locker room, we passed Roger Clemens in one of the jacuzzi's. He heard us whispering and said "Yeah, it's me".
   77. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:06 PM (#5135356)
Served Patti LaBelle, Bobby Hoying, and Mario Lemiuex ribs.
Please tell me this was at the same time and they were at the same table.
   78. Bote Man Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:12 PM (#5135357)
kielbasa and eggs


That sounds like an absolutely fantastic late-night/early-morning combo when you're drunk.

Whereas chorizo and eggs* will send you a-prayin to the porcelain god so fast that you won't be drunk much longer.

* JM: Tereso and eggs?
W: Chorizo and eggs, yes.
JM: What is that?
W: It's a Mexican sausage mixed in with scrambled eggs, and it comes with hash browns and toast.
JW: We won't be having that. Thank you.
   79. BDC Posted: January 15, 2016 at 08:21 PM (#5135361)
ran a gift basket up to Seth Myers' room

About the last person I'd have expected to be dating Derek Jeter.
   80. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:00 PM (#5135369)
I see Adam Vinateri walk his dog past my house regularly. I had to be told who he was by colts season ticket holding neighbor.

Phillip Knight is as hideous in person as he is on TV. I saw him at a diner near MSG very late one night.
   81. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:21 PM (#5135374)
I literally bumped into Rob Lowe on Melrose in Hollywood right after his 3 threesome video came out. I was walking along with a friend and lighting a cigarette whilst still walking and walked right into him. I apologised and he was super friendly about it. We got to talking about shopping on Melrose and he asked if we'd found anything good. It was post punk and you could still find some decent used clothes back then for really cheap. He was dressed pretty cool and kind of just fit right in. We chatted for about 15 minutes. Really nice guy.
   82. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:45 PM (#5135382)
That sounds like an absolutely fantastic late-night/early-morning combo when you're drunk. Hell, it sounds good now.


I can confirm that it is a top notch late night drunken snack.
   83. tfbg9 Posted: January 15, 2016 at 09:50 PM (#5135387)
73-yeah it was good. Sausage, eggs, spiced potatoes, and challah bread, with a coffee for $1.75.
   84. McCoy Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:06 PM (#5135393)
OH and to cross thread it had eggs with Kevin butler
   85. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:08 PM (#5135394)
I go duck hunting with Cliff Lee occasionally, and one time I watched a baseball game with Brooks Robinson and Al Kaline. I watched a different one with Rick Ankiel and Ryan Klesko. I once stood in line for space mountain next to Tim Hudson. Is this the famous people we've met thread?
   86. bookbook Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:12 PM (#5135396)
if Schowalter can just make that point obvious, "we offered him more than he could ever need, and he left over money," plenty of fans will be perfectly happy to hate Davis.


Cue the idiot Seattle fans (the majority of us) who didn't feel A-Rod should have left for an extra $150 million.
   87. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:17 PM (#5135419)
Summer of 1990, I walk into the pissoir in some dive in Prague, unzip, and there's a guy to my immediate right, looks familiar......Václav Havel! Played it cool--too bad I'd worn the Velvet Underground t-shirt the previous night....
   88. nick swisher hygiene Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:20 PM (#5135422)
on the other hand, I left work in Boston in the late 90s for an extended lunch, things being slow, and returned to learn that Joe Strummer had come in, bought a bunch of 50s vinyl and some other stuff, and shot the #### with my boss and his wife for like 45 minutes...."yeah, he left maybe 10 minutes ago"
   89. ptodd Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:42 PM (#5135427)
JJ1986 Posted: January 15, 2016 at 06:40 AM (#5134784)
Who else is going to give Davis that kind of money? The Angels, maybe? I think the Orioles will end up with him if they hold firm at their offer.


I keep thinking the Blue Jays if they move Encarnacion and Smoak. But I don't see them or anyone going much past the Orioles offer. If that offer is real, I hope he really does have something lined up because if the Orioles take it off the table and nobody is close the price is going down, down, down.

Boras is his agent and he is pretty smart, so I have to think he is OK. If Boras blows this he is going to lose clients
   90. ptodd Posted: January 15, 2016 at 11:51 PM (#5135429)
15. AROM Posted: January 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM (#5134875)
My theory is that there is a negligible lifestyle difference between a player who signs a 75 million dollar multiyear deal and one who signs for 200 million. Players still seek the highest dollars because:

1. Solidarity with their fellow players, they know that each contract sets the bar for the next contract.
2. To establish their place in the hierarchy - that guy just signed for 125 million and I know I'm better than he is so you have to pay me more.


Number 1 by far. Also, the agent has a stake too, so the player wants to do right by him.

After taxes and commission a player is left with about 50%. 37.5 million sounds like lot, but if you plan to live 50 years after retirement and not work, and your investments don't work out, you probably won't have much of a legacy left if you factor in 100% inflation over that period (which is low by historical standards). 100 million gives you a much softer cushion.

That the missing equation, being able to hand off a good chunk to your kids.
   91. bobm Posted: January 16, 2016 at 12:00 AM (#5135433)
Whereas chorizo and eggs* will send you a-prayin to the porcelain god so fast that you won't be drunk much longer.

Or it will give you the Midnight Runs :)
   92. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 16, 2016 at 12:05 AM (#5135434)
My theory is that there is a negligible lifestyle difference between a player who signs a 75 million dollar multiyear deal and one who signs for 200 million.

Following up on #90, there is a huge difference between you being set for life - even if you go through a divorce or two and/or have other financial setbacks - and having your children and grandchildren (and perhaps other family, if so inclined) set for generations to come. No one should take a deal at 38% of his earnings potential.
   93. Hank Gillette Posted: January 16, 2016 at 12:44 AM (#5135443)
Everybody talks about the Orioles making a 7/150 million contract offer to Davis, but how much of that is deferred and for how long? For all we know it breaks down to 7 years at $15 million per and then a million a year for the next 45 years. That would be a pretty good deal for the team, but maybe not so much for the player.


It would give people here something to ridicule after Bobby Bonilla gets his last paycheck.
   94. Bote Man Posted: January 16, 2016 at 12:51 AM (#5135445)
Maybe there's an opt-out each Sunday night for the first year?
   95. Hank Gillette Posted: January 16, 2016 at 01:01 AM (#5135448)
I once rode the Senate elevator with Strom Thurmond. A couple of other tourists and I were on the elevator and when Senator Thurmond got on the elevator operator (they still have those) started to kick us off, but Senator Thurmond magnanimously said that we could stay on.

He was shorter than me, so I got a good look at his hair transplant. His scalp looked like a hairbrush and his hair was orange.
   96. The Honorable Ardo Posted: January 16, 2016 at 04:26 AM (#5135467)
I once had a summer job at a major airport herding unaccompanied minors from one gate to another. At times, though, I'd get "VIP duty" with a politician.

Charles Grassley, longtime Senator from Iowa, had a tight connection that required a brisk walk from one end of the terminal to the other. After exchanging pleasantries and finding out I was a political science major, he and I had a 15-minute nonstop conversation about all of the hot issues of the day. He really enjoyed it and cagily defended the Republican party line against my leftist leanings.

Ed Rendell went directly to the nearest brewpub and offered to buy me a drink, which per work rules I had to decline.
   97. McCoy Posted: January 16, 2016 at 07:24 AM (#5135484)
Also I served Lisa Kudrow carrots and Larry Appleton from Perfect Strangers a drink. Got a free drink because I was sitting next to Larry Andersen and some Phillies pitchers.
   98. Jose Has Absurd Goosebump Arms Posted: January 16, 2016 at 09:08 AM (#5135491)
Davis can afford plenty of Target trips now. Could literally buy himself some good will by going to Target with Showalter and buying 25 grand of stuff for underprivileged kids.
   99. Swedish Chef Posted: January 16, 2016 at 09:09 AM (#5135492)
MLB Twitter says 7/161. He can really go wild the next time he goes to Target.
   100. Bote Man Posted: January 16, 2016 at 10:10 AM (#5135513)
Target is on the way out. SELL!
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