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Monday, April 10, 2017

Buster Olney: MLB Must Rewrite The Foreign-Substance Rule

Olney thinks MLB should do something before players get stuck together on a play at the plate:

The folks in uniform, as well as the reporters, could be rescued from this ridiculous dance if Major League Baseball and the players’ association would quickly rewrite the foreign-substance rule. The needed changes would relieve the players of the inevitable and silly accusations of cheating, something that Molina is wading through right now, by providing a cover of legitimacy to a common practice. And this possibility has been discussed by baseball officials who recognize the inconsistency.

The truth is that in every single game—every single game—you can see pitchers break baseball’s existing rule against the use of foreign substances. A lot of pitchers—dozens and dozens and dozens, across both leagues—shave the forearms of their gloved hands and cover that spot with glistening sunscreen or some mix of pine tar. When the pitchers receive a new baseball, or receive a return throw from the catcher, they will quickly wrap their pitching hand around that forearm, to cover their hand in sunscreen to help with their grip.

Can you use sunscreen for night games? What about the darker-skinned players?

The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 10, 2017 at 12:59 AM | 19 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: buster olney, cheating, foreign substances, rule changes, rules, st. louis cardinals, suspicious activity, yadier molina

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   1. Hank Gillette Posted: April 10, 2017 at 05:55 PM (#5432554)
Sunscreen helps your grip? When I’ve used it (for its intended purpose), I thought it was slippery.
   2. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 10, 2017 at 06:03 PM (#5432561)
Yeah, this might actually be a slippery slope.
   3. Itchy Row Posted: April 10, 2017 at 06:05 PM (#5432562)
As a Puerto Rican, Yadier Molina isn't really a foreign substance.
   4. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: April 10, 2017 at 06:20 PM (#5432579)
quickly rewrite the foreign-substance rule.

I'm sure Manfred would consider it. Molina must have slowed the pace of play by some 3-5 seconds looking for the lost ball.
   5. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: April 10, 2017 at 08:58 PM (#5432631)
#3 is top notch.
   6. cercopithecus aethiops Posted: April 10, 2017 at 09:37 PM (#5432652)
Seriously though, couldn't they just make the baseballs a little grippier so pitchers wouldn't need pine tar instead of changing the rules?
   7. Bote Man Posted: April 10, 2017 at 11:09 PM (#5432702)
Why don't they just build a wall around all those foreign substances???
   8. Benji Gil Gamesh VII - The Opt-Out Awakens Posted: April 11, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5432882)
Seriously though, couldn't they just make the baseballs a little grippier so pitchers wouldn't need pine tar instead of changing the rules?
...and wasn't there a thread/article recently suggesting that very thing? ISTR something that implied they were asking the ball manufacturers to look at it, it would no longer require the mud-rubdowns, etc.
   9. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: April 11, 2017 at 10:21 AM (#5432887)
I imagine part of it is that every pitcher has a different feel he's looking for. Just watch hitters with their bats, pine tar and batting gloves, everyone does it a little differently though.

Why do they need to change the rule anyway? I don't see it as any kind of a problem. No one seems to be getting an advantage and as long as they don't pull a Pineda and make it too obvious no one cares.
   10. Stormy JE Posted: April 11, 2017 at 10:46 AM (#5432918)
Why don't they just build a wall around all those foreign substances???

Or implement extreme vetting.
   11. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: April 11, 2017 at 11:07 AM (#5432935)
Why do they need to change the rule anyway?

I think Buster doesn't like that they have to lie to the media and pretend this isn't happening, when it is happening.
   12. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: April 11, 2017 at 11:16 AM (#5432944)
...and wasn't there a thread/article recently suggesting that very thing? ISTR something that implied they were asking the ball manufacturers to look at it, it would no longer require the mud-rubdowns, etc.

I assume the Big Mud lobby is blocking it.
   13. ReggieThomasLives Posted: April 11, 2017 at 01:11 PM (#5433049)
Why do they need to change the rule anyway? I don't see it as any kind of a problem. No one seems to be getting an advantage and as long as they don't pull a Pineda and make it too obvious no one cares.


What about the sanctity of baseball and the record book? Do you really want cheaters in the HOF? All time greats like Whitey Ford, Don Sutton, Joe Niekro and Gaylord Perry would puke if the modern ball player soils the hall.
   14. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: April 11, 2017 at 01:18 PM (#5433057)
@12 I don't know if you're joking but it probably is a consideration. Doesn't all the mud come from one place in the world and one company and this is all it does? I can't imagine MLB would like the look of changing a rule that basically puts a company with a long history tied to baseball out of business.
   15. bigglou115 is not an Illuminati agent Posted: April 11, 2017 at 01:22 PM (#5433061)
NVM, doesn't seem the mud would be that big a deal. Wikipedia says it is a company find in the 40s by Lena Blackburn. The secret location is passed down person to person and one guy goes and gets it. Supposedly the annual revenue is only about $20k a year.
   16. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: April 11, 2017 at 03:18 PM (#5433166)
I believe they changed the mud provider last year (seriously). I have this recollection of it being talked about on Red Sox radio broadcasts. I'm not sure what the change was.
   17. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 11, 2017 at 03:28 PM (#5433170)
I believe they changed the mud provider last year (seriously).


Nope
   18. Jose Is Absurdly Chatty Posted: April 11, 2017 at 03:36 PM (#5433174)
Ah, thanks.
   19. Hank Gillette Posted: April 12, 2017 at 01:41 AM (#5433505)
Why do they need to change the rule anyway? I don't see it as any kind of a problem. No one seems to be getting an advantage and as long as they don't pull a Pineda and make it too obvious no one cares.


Having a rule that is not enforced (until it is) is a problem. What if some manager decides during a playoff game to insist that the rule be enforced and gets a star player on the opposing team thrown out?

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