Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Monday, December 07, 2020

Cincinnati Reds trade closer Raisel Iglesias to Los Angeles Angels for Noé Ramirez

Looking to shed payroll, the Cincinnati Reds traded closer Raisel Iglesias to the Los Angeles for relief pitcher Noé Ramirez and a player to be named later on Monday.

Iglesias, who is owed $9.125 million next season, converted eight of his 10 save opportunities and finished the season with a 2.74 ERA and 31 strikeouts in 23 innings. He was dominant at the end of the season, yielding one earned run in his last 16 innings.

Ramirez, who will turn 31 on Dec. 22, had a 3.00 ERA across 21 appearances last season. The right-handed reliever struck out 14 and walked nine in 21 innings.

The trade was just another sign that the Reds are in cost-cutting mode this offseason and were looking to dump salary. They already released Archie Bradley, Brian Goodwin and Curt Casali at last week’s MLB tender deadline, reducing their payroll by about $20 million when combining all the moves.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 07, 2020 at 01:08 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: angels, raisel iglesias, reds

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: December 07, 2020 at 03:22 PM (#5992925)
Man, I feel like it was just a year or two ago that the Nats tried to get Iglesias and were told it would cost a king's ransom
   2. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: December 07, 2020 at 03:39 PM (#5992931)
and a player to be named later on Monday.


You'd think they'd just go ahead and name the player at the time of the deal, instead of waiting a few hours.
   3. bfan Posted: December 07, 2020 at 04:36 PM (#5992946)
Man, I feel like it was just a year or two ago that the Nats tried to get Iglesias and were told it would cost a king's ransom


Yes, and it was just a year or two ago I wanted to open up a restaurant at a popular local mall and was told it would cost a king's ransom. Yet today, I can get in much cheaper.
   4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 07, 2020 at 04:51 PM (#5992950)
And just like that, the Angels have cornered the market on Iglesiases. Which I suppose is appropriate.
   5. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: December 07, 2020 at 04:59 PM (#5992951)
All your Iglesias are belong to us.

I like this deal for the Angels. The tiny home run rate from last season is probably a sample size fluke, but I like the 3.0 BB/9 walk rate. The Angels' bullpens (mostly terrible) over the last several years have comprised good control soft-tossers who give up too much hard contact or incredibly inconsistent fireballers who will either strike out the side or walk the ballpark. It would be nice to have someone who can strike guys out while consistently avoiding walks.

Unless there's another Iglesias in the minors somewhere that BBRef is unaware of, the Angels have cornered the market. The Angels could also inquire of the Mets about Andrew Church. Given his performance over the last couple of minor league seasons, my guess is it wouldn't take a lot to get him.
   6. DFA Posted: December 07, 2020 at 07:31 PM (#5992977)
Angels acquire Iglesias for a prayer to be known later #fatherjokes
   7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 07, 2020 at 08:21 PM (#5992980)
I'm more bummed that they didn't trade Iglesias a couple of years ago. He's been vocal about not liking to pitch in non-save situations, which has always bugged me, especially since they originally signed him to start.

And it's not like he's been lights out consistently. 10 blown saves over 2018-19 with a lot of dingers. He was very good during this shortened season.
   8. The Duke Posted: December 07, 2020 at 09:44 PM (#5992995)
Another central division salary dump confirming Starks column the other day. Looks like all the teams have gotten the memo to trim $10 million from payroll. Cleveland with Hand, Cubs with Schwarber, cardinals with Wong, twins with Rosario, white Sox with Masada/rodon and now the reds with Iglesias. Pirates and royals didn’t need to trim. The brew crew has been taking out salary for two years. Who does that leave ? Detroit ?
   9. DCA Posted: December 08, 2020 at 08:02 AM (#5993038)
Don't get this for the Angels. Why trade something for the right to pay Iglesias $9 million, when you could have had Brad Hand for $10 million without giving up a thing?
   10. Rally Posted: December 08, 2020 at 08:57 AM (#5993039)
BB-ref shows 12 other Iglesiases in the minors or foreign leagues, but most are long retired. They could wait for Ernesto Iglesias to defect from Cuba, but he's not very good, 5.96 career ERA and about as many walks as strikeouts.
   11. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: December 08, 2020 at 11:59 AM (#5993075)
Don't get this for the Angels. Why trade something for the right to pay Iglesias $9 million, when you could have had Brad Hand for $10 million without giving up a thing?


There are any number of reasons.

One, the Angels might very well still go there given that their bullpen was a disaster and they have only retained three guys from last season's relief staff. That's doubtful given that Iglesias apparently only wants to close, but it's not out of the realm of possibility.

Two, Hand might be waiting until the market is more certain before signing a deal. It's possible he's willing to sign right now but only for much more than $10 million, and the Angels can't afford that given their other needs. Also, I think the Reds are kicking in at least a million in this deal, plus the Angels are dumping whatever Ramirez would have made (probably a couple of million), so this is actually paying a net of about $6 million to upgrade from Ramirez to Iglesias (a significant upgrade).

Three, the Angels might have approached him and Hand made it clear he has no desire to play for them for whatever reason. Free agency isn't as simple as "offer a given free agent X + 1 dollars and watch him sign with you." Hand might want to stay in the Midwest. He might want to latch on with a better bet to make the postseason. He might have a personal beef with Mike Trout. Maybe they're rival storm-chasers, like Bill Paxton and Cary Elwes. You never know.
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 08, 2020 at 12:20 PM (#5993078)

Two, Hand might be waiting until the market is more certain before signing a deal.


I think his point was the Angels could have claimed Hand off waivers and paid his $10 million option. I wonder if teams know something about Hand's medicals that we just aren't privvy to, because it doesn't make sense.
   13. The Gary DiSarcina Fan Club (JAHV) Posted: December 08, 2020 at 12:37 PM (#5993081)
I think his point was the Angels could have claimed Hand off waivers and paid his $10 million option. I wonder if teams know something about Hand's medicals that we just aren't privvy to, because it doesn't make sense.


I had forgotten about that. Although I will say that, aside from whatever medical concerns there might be regarding Hand, the Angels didn't have a GM at that point. I don't know who was running the show, but they might not have wanted to make a $10 million commitment on behalf of their yet-to-be-determined GM.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Dynasty League Baseball

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
JPWF13
for his generous support.

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogEmpty Stadium Sports Will Be Really Weird
(12738 - 5:09am, Apr 19)
Last: Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB)

NewsblogLast-place New York Yankees off to worst 15-game start since 1997
(3 - 1:23am, Apr 19)
Last: The importance of being Ernest Riles

NewsblogYahoo Sports Braves' Sean Kazmar Jr. makes it back to MLB after 12 years in minor league
(1 - 12:21am, Apr 19)
Last: Cooper Nielson

NewsblogNew York Yankees' Jay Bruce to retire after Sunday's game against the Tampa Bay Rays
(17 - 12:17am, Apr 19)
Last: Perry

NewsblogOMNICHATTER for the weekend of April 17-18, 2021
(54 - 10:16pm, Apr 18)
Last: Brian C

NewsblogPete Rose to sell picks for baseball, other sports through website
(43 - 9:50pm, Apr 18)
Last: Greg Pope

NewsblogMinnesota Twins, Timberwolves postpone games in wake of police shooting of Daunte Wright
(264 - 9:08pm, Apr 18)
Last: "bothsidesism" word 57i66135

NewsblogBlindsided Joe Girardi mum on player's sudden decision to take leave from team
(8 - 8:07pm, Apr 18)
Last: vortex of dissipation

NewsblogOT - Soccer Thread - Spring is in the Air
(152 - 7:48pm, Apr 18)
Last: AuntBea odeurs de parfum de distance sociale

NewsblogHow Fernando drew thousands of extra fans
(22 - 7:35pm, Apr 18)
Last: AndrewJ

NewsblogMLB salary down 4.8% in 2 years; top 100 earn half
(16 - 5:01pm, Apr 18)
Last: John Northey

NewsblogWhy the Cubs' awful offense could trigger full rebuild if downward trend continues this summer
(23 - 1:12pm, Apr 18)
Last: Brian C

NewsblogNBA 2020 Season kick-off thread
(2692 - 11:14pm, Apr 17)
Last: "bothsidesism" word 57i66135

NewsblogThe Athletic: Communication failures, poor decisions and messy breakups: How it all went wrong for the Colorado Rockies [$]
(79 - 11:03pm, Apr 17)
Last: Lowry Seasoning Salt

NewsblogIn the minors, a major change as the Atlantic League plans to move the mound back a foot
(84 - 10:23pm, Apr 17)
Last: Lowry Seasoning Salt

Page rendered in 0.2935 seconds
48 querie(s) executed