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## Wednesday, November 17, 2021

#### Cleveland Guardians settle lawsuit with local roller derby team over rights to name

Officially, the Cleveland baseball team will become the “Guardians” on Friday.

Cleveland will have two teams called the Guardians.

The Major League Baseball franchise and a local roller derby club have reached a resolution in a lawsuit filed over the use of the name Guardians, allowing both to continue using it.

The sides on Tuesday jointly announced an “amicable resolution,” an agreement that permits the Indians to continue their changeover to Guardians—a switch that was delayed due to the legal matter and isn’t completely finished.

No other terms of the agreement were disclosed.

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1. I Am Not a Number Posted: November 17, 2021 at 04:31 PM (#6053338)
Any guesses on how many \$\$\$ an "amicable resolution" cost?
2. Zach Posted: November 17, 2021 at 05:02 PM (#6053343)
More than a steak dinner, less than a house.
3. Zach Posted: November 17, 2021 at 05:06 PM (#6053344)
I saw an estimation talk once that recommended taking the harmonic mean of "clearly too little" and "clearly too much"

So using that approach:
Clearly too little: 1 hour of lawyer time, \$1000
Clearly too much: 1 nice house, \$1M

sqrt(1e3*1e6)=\$31,622

I'll round up and guess \$50K.

4. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 17, 2021 at 05:18 PM (#6053345)
I'll round up and guess \$50K.
I'll take the over.
5. Perry Posted: November 17, 2021 at 05:37 PM (#6053347)
I expect all sportswriters and broadcasters to refer to them as the "baseball Guardians" now, to avoid confusion. Like the Cardinals before the NFL team moved to Phoenix, or the Giants before SF.
6. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 17, 2021 at 05:57 PM (#6053349)

I'll take the over.

I agree, but probably closer to \$50k than \$1m
7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: November 17, 2021 at 06:25 PM (#6053353)
If we're talking about Cleveland, \$50k IS the price of a nice house.
8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 17, 2021 at 06:31 PM (#6053357)
Cleveland Baseball Guardians actually sounds somewhat noble. Go for it.
9. Mayor Blomberg Posted: November 17, 2021 at 06:47 PM (#6053361)
I expect all sportswriters and broadcasters to refer to them as the "baseball Guardians" now, to avoid confusion. Like the Cardinals before the NFL team moved to Phoenix, or the Giants before SF.

Were they ever the baseball Giants? Not something I recall hearing, though granted they'd gone a few years earlier. But football Giants I heard lots while growing up.
10. Walt Davis Posted: November 17, 2021 at 07:09 PM (#6053366)
If we're talking about Cleveland, \$50k IS the price of a nice house.

You ain't kidding. After she passed 5 years ago, we couldn't sell my sister's very nice (great bones, you'd want to re-do the kitchen) 3 BR house for more than about \$35,000. What are rents in Cleveland, \$200/month?

EDIT: In raw dollars, it was what she had paid for it 20 years earlier. So even without the GFC, I'm not sure it would have gone for more than \$150,000.
11. cookiedabookie Posted: November 18, 2021 at 01:24 PM (#6053440)
Honestly, the baseball team should have just offered to fund the roller derby league for x number of years
12.  Posted: November 18, 2021 at 01:46 PM (#6053447)
What part of Cleveland, Walt?
13. Perry Posted: November 18, 2021 at 04:41 PM (#6053476)
Were they ever the baseball Giants? Not something I recall hearing, though granted they'd gone a few years earlier. But football Giants I heard lots while growing up.

Don't know, before my time. I think Football Giants was kept alive for years by Chris Berman. When I lived in St. Louis in the 70s when they had two Cardinals the football team was usually referred to as the "Big Red" in newspaper headlines. Cardinals referred to the baseball team by default.
14. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: November 19, 2021 at 10:42 AM (#6053547)
[3] That’s the geometric mean. The harmonic mean is the reciprocal of the mean of reciprocals. The harmonic mean of 1000 and 1000000 is 1998. Harmonic mean is useful for things like resistors in parallel, where you sum reciprocals- a 1000 ohm and 1000000 ohm resistor in parallel provides the same resistance as two 1998 ohm resistors.
15. McCoy Posted: November 19, 2021 at 10:44 AM (#6053548)
It's also good for Win Shares rankings according to Bill James.
16. Zach Posted: November 19, 2021 at 12:16 PM (#6053561)
14 -- oops, thanks! I meant geometric mean.
17. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: November 19, 2021 at 12:29 PM (#6053564)
I was told there would be no math.
18. sunday silence (again) Posted: November 20, 2021 at 04:59 AM (#6053673)
as my daughter pointed out: they're keeping the domain name right?

ANd given that both teams have agreed to joint ownership, then what happens when the Rollerball team starts selling Guardians shirts that look quite like the baseball team?

And even though most RB teams don't wear caps, this one does. And it suprisingly looks like a baseball cap. Hmmmm
19. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: November 20, 2021 at 06:18 AM (#6053674)
I’m sure the settlement covers such things. The roller derby team already sells merch and their logo/colors look nothing like the baseball club.
20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 21, 2021 at 12:55 PM (#6053848)
The Guardians are off to a smashing start.
21. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: November 21, 2021 at 06:55 PM (#6053905)
The roller derby team already sells merch
I mean, not really. They in theory had some swag; there's no evidence that anyone other than people on the team actually bought it. I assume some people will buy it now for the kitsch value.

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