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Wednesday, November 13, 2019

Clint Hurdle retires from baseball

Kevin Acee of the San Diego Union-Tribune reports that the Padres interviewed Clint Hurdle, hoping he would become the hitting coach under new manager Jayce Tingler. Hurdle considered the opportunity but ultimately decided to retire from baseball.

Hurdle, 62, was fired by the Pirates following a disappointing 2019 season in which his team went 69-92, the club’s worst finish since 2010. The Pirates’ 2019 season was mired in controversy with a litany of clubhouse issues as well as more than a handful of benches-clearing brawls.

Well, not all retirements involve long tours…..

QLE Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:28 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Starring RMc as Bradley Scotchman Posted: November 13, 2019 at 06:59 AM (#5900744)
I'm so old, I remember when Hurdle was a phenom...
   2. Rennie's Tenet Posted: November 13, 2019 at 08:53 AM (#5900757)
as well as more than a handful of benches-clearing brawls.


More than a handful?
   3. bob gee Posted: November 13, 2019 at 08:57 AM (#5900758)
rmc - i saw the headline, and immediately remembered the SI cover as well.
   4. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 13, 2019 at 09:08 AM (#5900763)
Clint Hurdle remains the only baseball figure I have ever seen in an independent bookstore, and for that reason alone, I'll miss him.
   5. puck Posted: November 13, 2019 at 10:33 AM (#5900811)
Tom, the Tattered Cover?

I met him once in pre-game batting practice thing where I got to watch from the edge of the field. It was fun; he seemed very energetic and dynamic, like a politician (in a good way).
   6. PreservedFish Posted: November 13, 2019 at 10:38 AM (#5900813)
Clint Hurdle remains the only baseball figure I have ever seen in an independent bookstore, and for that reason alone, I'll miss him.


What section was he perusing?
   7. Perry Posted: November 13, 2019 at 10:58 AM (#5900831)
Once after a spring training game on a hot afternoon in Tucson when he was the Rockies' manager, I saw him pitch BP for an hour to a bunch of scrubs. Always thought that was pretty cool.
   8. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: November 13, 2019 at 11:28 AM (#5900850)
Could be me but when I watched Crew/Pirate games Hurdle always looked ####### pissed off. And this was different from other years where you could see him talking to guys and smiling sometimes. Didn't see any of that this season. That whole team really played angry but not in a productive way. Really strange
   9. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:01 PM (#5900869)
Tom, the Tattered Cover?


Yes, the branch in Highlands Ranch (which I believe is now closed).

What section was he perusing?



He seemed to have brought his daughter to a storytime on a Saturday morning. I would love to tell you that he was leafing through "The Man Without Qualities" by Robert Musil, but alas, in good conscience, I cannot.
   10. eric Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:34 PM (#5900879)
A few thoughts:

1) He was the manager for the Rockies when they won the pennant, and for the Pirates when they stopped sucking for the first time in over two decades, taking them into the playoffs three straight years. That's gotta count for something.

2) That 2007 Rockies team participated in three postseason series: and all three were sweeps. They won 3-0, then 4-0, then lost 0-4. Not sure how to quantify that, but it seems like a rather rare/unexpected sequence of events.

3) Man are Clint Hurdle's BBREF pages in the running for the most severe "Behold! The ravages of time!" instance on the entire site. On his player page he is a quite good-looking young man, and then you click to his manager page and...wowza, completely unrecognizable. All guys of course look a a lot older at 60 than they did at 21, but most are at least recognizable, and few changes seem that dramatic.
   11. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:42 PM (#5900885)
"Behold! The ravages of time!"
Well - time, sun exposure and substance abuse.
   12. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 13, 2019 at 12:43 PM (#5900887)
On his player page he is a quite good-looking young man, and then you click to his manager page and...wowza, completely unrecognizable.


Well, he was a drunk, which surely didn't help his looks any.
   13. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: November 13, 2019 at 01:16 PM (#5900897)
Could be me but when I watched Crew/Pirate games Hurdle always looked ####### pissed off. And this was different from other years where you could see him talking to guys and smiling sometimes. Didn't see any of that this season. That whole team really played angry but not in a productive way. Really strange


Baseball in Pittsburgh wasn't much fun for anyone last year. Bad performances by the team, justifiable anxiety over upcoming personnel changes, multiple physical fights in the clubhouse... and then there's the whole Vazquez situation.
   14. Rally Posted: November 13, 2019 at 01:32 PM (#5900901)
I'm sure Bill James had something to say on it since Hurdle played for his favorite team right in the early days of the Baseball Abstract. I'll have to look it up.

One thing that shocks me from looking at his player page is this:

1. He was a slightly better than league average hitter at age 20. He was certainly a phenom with scouts and the media heralding him as a future star.
2. He was good in 1980, 120 OPS+ at age 22, getting the majority of playing time as a RF on a world series bound team.
3. His 1981 season was shortened by injury and the strike, only 89 PA, but in the little time he did play looked like a breakout: 329/427/553

So at the end of the year, the Royals trade him for Scott Brown, a 24 year old relief pitcher coming off a rookie season where he pitched 13 innings. He would never pitch again in the majors, and only one more season in the minors.

Was Brown a much better prospect than I remember? Seems like such a light return for a guy who, in 1981, appeared to still have great potential. Then again, didn't cost them as Hurdle was never a good MLB player after that anyway.
   15. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 13, 2019 at 01:42 PM (#5900902)
Did he have a drinking problem then? That might help explain the trade.
   16. Rally Posted: November 13, 2019 at 01:50 PM (#5900907)
Quite probably, yes. Several Royal players of that era were doing much worse, as would soon be discovered.
   17. Mike Webber Posted: November 13, 2019 at 03:46 PM (#5900930)
IIRC Hurdle also was picked up with a sex worker about the time of the trade, but I can't seem to find it on the net.

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