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Could Casey Mize win the Rookie of the Year award twice?

Jayson Stark poses a question in his latest article at The Athletic: would it be possible for a player to win the Rookie of the Year Award twice due to the truncated 2020 schedule? As it turns out, it is absolutely within the realm of possibility.

Unless some changes in the rules occur between now and when the votes are cast, one could qualify for the honor both in 2020 and 2021 if certain conditions are met. Sure, it is very unlikely this could happen, but what I’m saying here is there is a chance. Here are the conditions that would disqualify a player from earning the award a second time.

• Log 45 days or more on a big-league roster before Sept. 1.

• Pitch 50 innings or more.

• Roll up 130 at-bats or more.

In a 60-game season that could also see further games trimmed due to COVID-19, it is clear how easily a rookie could get hot and still stay below these thresholds. The first bullet point is mathematically impossible, while the second is plausible for a starting pitcher and the last condition being fairly easy to reach, depending on when that player first took the field.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 10, 2020 at 01:40 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. John Northey Posted: August 10, 2020 at 02:28 PM (#5968847)
Given service time is prorated to a full season the 45 days would be 17 days now I think. I suspect they'd adjust the other benchmarks in a similar way if needed after the season.
   2. Cooper Nielson Posted: August 11, 2020 at 11:47 PM (#5969167)
With the current rules, outside of pandemic-shortened seasons, it's extremely unlikely that anyone could win Rookie of the Year twice, but it's conceivable that someone could get votes in consecutive years, especially a relief pitcher. It doesn't appear to have happened yet, but the first name I thought of was Todd Worrell.

Worrell was already a national name at the end of 1985 as he had emerged as the Cardinals' closer in September and the postseason. He pitched in 1 game (1.2 innings) in August, 16 games (20 innings) in September, and 7 games (11 innings) in the postseason. Then he won Rookie of the Year in 1986. So he had already appeared in 24 major-league games (I'm counting postseason games), many of them nationally televised, before his "rookie" season.

Checking some other ROY relievers, Craig Kimbrel pitched in 25 games (21 regular season with 0.8 bWAR, 4 postseason) in his pre-rookie year; Neftali Feliz pitched in 20; Gregg Olson in 10. Francisco Rodriguez, though he never got ROY votes, had the interesting line of 5 regular season games and 11 postseason games in his pre-rookie year.

If Mike Trout hadn't been overmatched in his first call-up, he could've gotten ROY votes as a "pre-rookie" in 2011 before winning in 2012. He appeared in almost 1/4 of the Angels' games (40 games) without losing his rookie qualification. Rhys Hoskins got some votes in 2017 despite only playing in 50 games.

   3. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 11, 2020 at 11:50 PM (#5969169)
It doesn't appear to have happened yet,
Gregg Jefferies finished 6th in 1988 and 3rd in 1989.

Clearly you weren’t an 11-12 year old collecting baseball cards at the time.
   4. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: August 12, 2020 at 12:13 AM (#5969171)
Willie McCovey won in 1959 with just 219 PA, which would be the equivalent of 88 PA in a 60 game season, so there is precedent. If someone hit .360/.430/.650 in 100 PA and there was no other obvious candidate, then sure.
   5. Itchy Row Posted: August 12, 2020 at 12:17 AM (#5969172)
“In modern history except for 2020” will be a common term for a lot of things if we ever get back to whatever life was before this.
   6. Best Dressed Chicken in Town Posted: August 12, 2020 at 01:20 AM (#5969176)
Lou Piniella won ROY 5 years after he debuted.
   7. Mayor Blomberg Posted: August 12, 2020 at 02:03 AM (#5969178)
I don't know of anything more impressive than Ken Dryden winning the Calder Trophy (ROY) the season after winning Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP. His firs NHL game was 20 March of the year he won the Conn Smythe.
   8. Rally Posted: August 12, 2020 at 08:10 AM (#5969187)
K-Rod did not get votes for his rookie year, 2003. He pitched well in middle relief, 86 innings, 8-3, 145 ERA+, good for 1.8 WAR. Not arguing that he should have, being a middle reliever, but he was not far off. Angel Berroa (who never again had a good season) won the award over Hideki Matsui. Matsui wasn't great as a rookie, only 16 homers and a .435 SLG for a bad defensive left fielder, but he drove in over 100 runs in that stacked Yankee lineup. Each of the 5 who received votes had between 2-3 WAR.

Before his rookie year K-Rod did not win the ALCS or WS MVP, but would have been a strong contender for an overall playoff MVP award if such was a thing. He had a 5-1 record, pitched 11 games and 18 2/3 innings (for a team that played 16 playoff games!), gave up 5 runs (4 earned) while striking out 28 batters. Before those playoffs started he had pitched a total of 5 innings in the big leagues.
   9. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 12, 2020 at 09:20 AM (#5969197)
Didn't someone get a ROY vote that wasn't eligible because the voter didn't know he wasn't ineligible?
   10. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: August 12, 2020 at 09:38 AM (#5969209)
Yes, Edinson Volquez finished 4th in 2008 even though he wasn't eligible.
   11. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: August 12, 2020 at 10:02 AM (#5969219)
Lou Piniella won ROY 5 years after he debuted.


He was also traded 40 years after he signed his first pro contract.
   12. SoSH U at work Posted: August 12, 2020 at 10:00 PM (#5969357)
I don't know of anything more impressive than Ken Dryden winning the Calder Trophy (ROY) the season after winning Conn Smythe Trophy as playoff MVP.



How about Steve Stricker winning the Comeback Player of the Year award in consecutive seasons?
   13. Mayor Blomberg Posted: August 12, 2020 at 10:10 PM (#5969360)
Not on it's own, but he was also inducted into the Wisconsin Golf Association Hall of Fame in 2007; that may tip it. ;)

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