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Friday, August 07, 2020

Cubs-Cardinals series opener postponed over another positive coronavirus test

Friday’s series opener between the Chicago Cubs and St. Louis Cardinals has been postponed after a St. Louis player tested positive for COVID-19, according to Major League Baseball.

In total, eight Cardinals players have tested positive for the coronavirus since last week.

MLB said the postponed game would allow for additional testing and contact tracing. A source told ESPN’s Jesse Rogers that the remainder of the three-game series also was in jeopardy.

The Cardinals have not played since July 29 because of positive coronavirus tests. The team previously announced that it had returned 13 positive tests from its traveling party, with seven of them coming from players.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2020 at 03:48 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JRVJ Posted: August 07, 2020 at 05:17 PM (#5968354)
I'm a little confused about the Cardinals' timeline.

They had to scratch their game against the Brewers last Friday, July 31st because of positive results (presumably from tests taken on Wednesday, July 29th or Thursday July 30th). Didn't they immediately quarantine the team and staff?

Yes, positive COVID results can show up to 14 days after the initial contact, but I have to believe the Cards were not getting fast-tested, but rather because of their outbreak, they were being tested with the much more accurate PCR tests. Those should not have missed a positive for so long, should they?
   2. Moses Taylor, glorified meat shield Posted: August 07, 2020 at 05:45 PM (#5968358)
Someone kept testing negative until today? I guess that's possible. The team traveled back to StL together and has been working out the last couple of days, so there's a chance this will end up spreading again to more guys.

I'd be shocked if they played at all this weekend now. The Cards schedule was already ######. No way they can play 60 games.
   3. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: August 07, 2020 at 06:16 PM (#5968365)
No way (the Cardinals) can play 60 games.


Not unless they want to play the first tripleheader(s) since 1920...
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 07, 2020 at 06:32 PM (#5968369)
No way they can play 60 games.
Maybe, but MLB has already rescheduled all the games from the other outbreaks. There are some pretty brutal schedules, and not just for the teams with outbreaks - those unlucky enough to have been scheduled to play those teams will have to cram in make-up games, too. The short 60-game season seems destined to have more doubleheaders than any recent full season.
   5. Nasty Nate Posted: August 07, 2020 at 10:10 PM (#5968392)
Whole series scratched
   6. Rally Posted: August 07, 2020 at 11:27 PM (#5968397)
Time to say F the standard double headers. Play spring style split squad games.
   7. Sleepy was just “inspecting the bunker”, y’all Posted: August 07, 2020 at 11:34 PM (#5968398)
Just play regular double headers, but have the games also count double. It would be awesome to be able to pick up 4 games on a division leader in one day by sweeping a double header...
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 08, 2020 at 12:55 AM (#5968405)
The Marlins have a 7-game/5-day home series against the Phillies. Other teams will likely face similar ordeals when all is said & done.
   9. Dolf Lucky Posted: August 08, 2020 at 07:45 AM (#5968421)
Has there been any clarification on how MLB will handle the playoff qualification for teams with materially fewer than 60 games played? This is going to be really messy if the Cards only play 45 games but have a slightly better winning percentage than a team that played all 60.
   10. bunyon Posted: August 08, 2020 at 08:23 AM (#5968423)
Or when a team tests positive during the playoffs? Immediate elimination?
   11. Red Voodooin Posted: August 08, 2020 at 11:05 AM (#5968443)
RE: #9 I believe there has been clarification that winning percentage will be used to rank the teams for playoff purposes. That will certainly lead to some strange outcomes, assuming a large disparity on total number of games played by teams. But it probably won't be super controversial because of the expanded playoffs.

It may seem weird to see a 30-15 Cardinals team ahead of 39-21 Cubs squad in the standings, for example, but it's not likely to meaningfully change the playoff odds with the expanded crapshoot tournament this year. I doubt there will be too much hand wringing if a 27-33 team misses out on the 8th seed because a 23-27 squad edges them by a few percentage points for the final playoff spot.
   12. McCoy Posted: August 08, 2020 at 12:25 PM (#5968451)
You would hope for the playoffs they employ a bubble. But. . .
   13. Walt Davis Posted: August 08, 2020 at 06:45 PM (#5968536)
#9 and #11 -- that's how it was done in 1981. In the first half, NL teams had anywhere from 48 to 59 games and LA won the 1st half West by a half-game at 36-21 over the Reds 35-21. The 2nd half was better with a range of 51-54 games played but the Expos took the NLE by a half-game at 30-23 over the Cards at 29-23. And as is pretty well-known, the Reds and Cards had the best overall records and neither made the playoffs.

Anyway there is precedent for deciding divisions, etc. based on a wacky 1/3 of a season and agreed that the expanded playoffs means there won't be much serious whining.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 08, 2020 at 08:16 PM (#5968549)
Cardinals series against the Pirates likely to be canceled:
The St. Louis Cardinals have been told that they won’t be coming together again as a team for at least 3-5 days, per The Athletic’s Mark Saxon (via Twitter). Obviously, the implication here is that their upcoming series with the Pittsburgh Pirates will be canceled. Major League Baseball has not made an official announcement as of yet.
That would be 15 games to make-up, assuming they were able to resume Thursday. That’d be tough to do.
   15. Greg Pope Posted: August 09, 2020 at 12:52 PM (#5968604)
That would be 15 games to make-up, assuming they were able to resume Thursday. That’d be tough to do.

The problem is that if they've already decided to use winning percentage, there's less incentive to try to make up the games.
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 09, 2020 at 02:42 PM (#5968629)
I wonder how far MLB will push it to get in as many games as possible. Assuming the Cardinals will be able to resume Thursday - which now appears to be a best case scenario - adding a doubleheader per week & canceling a few off days might allow ~ 10 games to be made up, although it would be a tough schedule. Would 2 doubleheaders every week or 10 days be too much? Weekly doubleheaders used to be quite common, with rainout make-up doubleheaders added as needed, so it seems like MLB could do more than 1 a week.
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 09, 2020 at 08:44 PM (#5968689)
The entire Cards/Pirates series has been postponed.

@JesseRogersESPN

Mozeliak confirms a couple players did go to the ER but did not have to check in and stay at the hospital:

"To me, it's scary."
   18. Hysterical & Useless Posted: August 10, 2020 at 06:05 PM (#5968904)
You look at old "as played" schedules on B-R or Retrosheet back in the 20s and 30s you'll frequently see teams playing doubleheaders on consecutive days late in the season.

But that was when men were men and pitchers never got hurt.

   19. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 10, 2020 at 06:40 PM (#5968911)
The Cardinals/Tigers doubleheader for Thursday has been postponed.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 10, 2020 at 06:41 PM (#5968913)
Thursday’s Cardinals @ Tigers doubleheader has been postponed.
   21. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 13, 2020 at 09:03 PM (#5969532)
Cardinals season resumes Saturday:
The Cardinals have been out of action since July 29 because of a coronavirus outbreak, but they announced that they’ll return to the field this Saturday with a doubleheader against the White Sox. That will be the first of three doubleheaders in the coming days for the Cardinals, who will also play twin bills on Monday and Wednesday against the Cubs, Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reports.
Expect a flurry of roster moves to field a squad.
   22. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 14, 2020 at 01:48 PM (#5969619)
More schedule details:
Major League Baseball has formally announced that the Cardinals will return to play in a doubleheader against the White Sox tomorrow. The league has also announced seven newly scheduled doubleheaders between now and season’s end: three against the Cubs (Aug. 17, Aug. 19, Sept. 5), two against the Pirates (Aug. 27, Sept. 18) and one apiece against the Twins (Sept. 8) and Tigers (date TBD).

Joel Sherman of the New York Post tweets that if the Cardinals are able to play the currently allotted games without any additional stoppages, they’d come in at 58 games through the scheduled end of season. If those final two unresolved games would be a determining factor in postseason eligibility, the Cards could play an additional game or two on Sept. 28 (the Monday after the season’s currently scheduled conclusion).
Teams have played that many 9-inning doubleheaders BITD, but this will be a different experience for today’s players.
   23. Howie Menckel Posted: August 14, 2020 at 02:54 PM (#5969639)
Joel Sherman
@Joelsherman1
·
1h
The last time anyone other than a member of the #STlCards tested positive for COVID-19 in MLB/PA testing was July 30. So that is 2 weeks in which just 1 team has a positive.

...............

(ME: The Cardinals should have their chicks taken away.)

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