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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Monday, May 09, 2022Cubs option struggling Frank Schwindel to Triple-A
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Posted: May 09, 2022 at 12:16 AM | 24 comment(s)
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1. Walt Davis Posted: May 09, 2022 at 12:50 AM (#6075843)A few bright spots -- Nico Hoerner is having a nice season, Wisdom is still hitting for power (120 OPS+ with a low OBP but we'll take it), Suzuki doing quite well, Contreras doing quite well, Rivas hoping to be this season's Schwindel. The bullpen has generally been outstanding but they're throwing a lot of innings and generally entering games already losing 5-1.
And it would be nice if they allowed Cub pitchers to use the new deadened balls ... out-HR'd 33-20 so far. The only thing we can cling to is that we aren't (yet?) as bad as the Reds.
So never too early to look to next year --- err, 2024? 2025? Top prospect Brennan Davis is hitting 195/286/299 at AAA ... oh-oh. #2 prospect Cristian Hernandez is still only 18 and hasn't started playing yet this year. #3 James Triantos is a 2B/22 hitting 260/327/333 at A. #4 Caleb Killian is finally getting some scout's love and doing great with a 1.46 ERA and K>IP at AAA. PCA is off to a blistering start at A with 400/491/600; Alcantara at 250/354/440 at A; Caissie had a great 200 PA last year but 138/200/169 at A+ so far. The future looks a long way away.
Does anyone else hear the name “Frank Schwindel” and think its a name of a teammate of Tinkers, Evers, and Chance? Just sounds like an old-timey name. Maybe I’m think of Frank “wildfire” Schulte.
not "the second time around" - .185 AVG, .551 OPS in last 21 days, after a blistering start
I don't really blame them, I mean this isn't a true contending roster, I don't see the harm in giving him a month worth's of at-bats. Patrick Wisdom is a similar player, and he's kept it up.
It's guys like Villar, Gomes, and Heyward that need to go. They are probably better players than the Schwindel types, but you know exactly what they are, and they're relatively expensive and will be gone before the Cubs are good again. Heyward is playing out a contract signed many years ago - they should cut him, or pay his whole contract to flip him for some fringe prospects, but I understand the current Cubs didn't choose him - but Villar and Gomes were signed this past offseason and are just wasting $10 million and (more importantly) two tryout slots.
Find one who can be an average regular and that's one position solved for the next 3-5 years.
I'm with you but few late bloomers last 5 years ... even 3 years is a good run. And the benefits of solving a position with an average player for 3 years when the kids are 2-3 years away is really no higher than solving the position using Villar or Gomes or whoever one year at a time. Wisdom (may he survive) will likely be done ty the time Caissie (may he blossom) has his first season over a 100 OPS+. This year, next year, and probably the year after that is about not embarrassing ourselves too much.
Hopefully Davis can get hot and come up after the super-2 deadline.
The 2013 team gambled on a lot of the pitching equivalents of Villar, got lucky with Feldman, got extra lucky when trading Feldman.
The 2014 Cubs began showing some of the young talent. None of the AAAA guys stuck but Coghlan was useful in 2015-16.
Theo tried lots of AAAA types and only Valbuena hit; he tried lots of borderline vets and some (e.g. DeJesus) basically did what they were paid to do and Coghlan was still around when the team got good. But I think the only players in common between 2012 and 2016 were Rizzo and Travis Wood.
There's almost nothing the Cubs will do this year that will affect them in 2025 orther than maybe where we draft next year. Does the new lottery start right away?
I mean, that's why you try guys out like that. Arrieta looked like fodder - 5.46 ERA in 358 innings. The Cubs gave him a chance and he blossomed. It doesn't happen very often, but the benefits are great when they do, and it beats signing some 36-year old playing out the string.
Sure but
1. Arrieta wasn't some AAAA guy the Cubs found bouncing around on the wire. He was a former top 100 prospect ... who might have been on his way to AAAA guy.
2. They got Arrieta for Feldman, a solid but unspectacular veteran they signed for 1/$6 (30-yo, >700 IP) ... as I said, the pitching equivalent of Villar or Gomes or Simmons or Smyly or Wiley ...
The 2022 Cubs' versions of "former pitching prospects who might put it together" are on the IL (Alzolay, Mills, Heuer) or getting smacked around in the rotation (Steele) or dominating in the pen (Thompson, Effross). Not that any of them were ever big prospects as far as I know. In regards the "play the bits and pieces and hopes" strategy, about the only criticism you can make is that the Cubs should just stick Hermosillo in the lineup for a month and see if he can do anything -- he's so far a complete flop as a platoon CF, maybe regular playing time will help. But they've given time to Schwindel, Madrigal, Hoerner, Wisdom, Ortega and Happ hoping either that they'd put it together (Hoerner, Happ), keep it together (Madrigal) or be a welcome surprise. 3 for 6 so far which is good.
And, well ... the Cubs have had trouble getting consistent offensive production from almost everyone for a long time. Maybe the changes snap into place and Madrigal blossoms over the next few months. But in the meantime, it sure feels like "guy comes to play for Cubs and his production tanks" is getting to be the rule instead of the exception. We'll see about Suzuki also - like Howie noted, Suzuki's good numbers so far are entirely due to an amazing start, and things have been trending in the wrong direction for him lately too.
I'd love to see a roundtable of Hendricks, Greinke, Maddux, Tiant, El Duque and Moyer just shooting the #### about that time they got a weak grounder out of (Reggie, McGwire, Griffey, Trout, etc.) on some 65-MPH junk and other tales of the perils of the low-stuff pitcher.
True but 5 of those came in two starts - in his other 4, he had only given up 1 HR combined. So to a large extent, this season is still an open question for Hendo - he hasn't really been consistently sharp, but he's been great about half the time, and a couple of bad starts have kind of blown up his overall numbers.
Then again, last year he was all over the place, too - lot of good starts mixed with lots of bad ones. Believe it or not, he actually had a higher percentage of quality starts than he did the previous three full seasons (i.e., excepting 2020). So I'm not sure it's really a case where the decline is all that swift, just that the consistency fades and he's either pretty good or pretty terrible in any given start. It's not like he became useless all at once, but he was previously so consistent that this new high-variance pitcher he's become seems kind of shocking.
This doesn't really make a lot of actual sense, though - the way to keep hitters off balance is to alternate speeds so that they can't get the timing down. This makes it sound like he just survived off the novelty of being slower than everyone else, which seems unlikely to actually be true.
It was the year he won 20 that he said the bit about just going slower. Basically he wanted to come in slower than batting practice.
Novelty acts have a limited shelf life in MLB and the end of his career was pretty ugly.
EDIT: But yeah. It was more of a cute quote than an overall strategy. Still, at the point he won 20 his top speed was slower than a typical curve -- and his maximum effort pitch had no movement. Practically the definition of BP. So when he was in a jam he didn't have the option of attempting to do more so he opted to do less.
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