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Thursday, August 12, 2021

Cubs Release Jake Arrieta

The Cubs have requested unconditional release waivers on right-hander Jake Arrieta, per a team announcement. That move comes amid a series of transactions, as Chicago has also placed catcher Willson Contreras on the 10-day injured list with a sprained knee, reinstated catcher Austin Romine from the 60-day injured list, selected the contract of right-hander Ryan Meisinger from Triple-A Iowa, and designated lefty Kyle Ryan for assignment.

It’s been a miserable season for Arrieta in his return to Chicago. The former Cy Young winner got out to a nice start, working to a 2.57 ERA through April 25, but he’s been tattooed for 58 runs in 58 1/3 innings since that time. Opponents have racked up 91 hits, including 19 home runs, during that stretch. Last night’s outing was particularly non-competitive; Arrieta yielded seven runs in the first inning and ultimately departed after four frames with eight Brewers runs on the board.

The Cubs signed Arrieta to a one-year, $6MM deal over the winter with the hope that the injury troubles which plagued him during his three years with the Phillies were behind him. He’s avoided any notable arm troubles, but Arrieta’s fastball is sitting at a career-low 90.8 mph on the year and he’s seen across-the-board declines in swinging-strike rate, chase rate, home-run rate and walk rate. This marks the sixth straight season that he’s seen his ERA increase from the prior season.

Arrieta is still owed the balance of that $6MM salary — about $1.71MM between now and season’s end. He’s a lock to clear release waivers and become a free agent, but any team that signs him thereafter would only owe him the prorated league minimum for the remainder of the year. That sum would then be subtracted from the balance owed to him by the Cubs.

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   1. Tin Angel Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:00 PM (#6034072)
I read something that mentioned his comments after last night's game "not helping," but couldn't find the actual comments. What did he say? Something honest about playing for a team that stopped trying?
   2. Ron J Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:22 PM (#6034081)
Asked a reporter to take his mask off. To be fair, it was in a video call and it might just have been a joke that didn't come out as intended but given that he has a history on the matter ... well "not helping" sounds fair.
   3. Voodoo Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:22 PM (#6034082)
What did he say? Something honest about playing for a team that stopped trying?


No, stupid anti-mask ####. "“I’d love you to take your mask off,” Jake Arrieta told a reporter on a video conference after a 10-0 loss while giving an answer about hoping to mentor young pitchers."
   4. geonose Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:25 PM (#6034084)
Likely this refers to him asking a reporter to remove his mask during the post-game interview.
   5. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:46 PM (#6034086)
No, stupid anti-mask ####. "“I’d love you to take your mask off,” Jake Arrieta told a reporter on a video conference after a 10-0 loss while giving an answer about hoping to mentor young pitchers."

Wait, I'm missing something. Why would you wear a mask on a video conference? Isn't that the whole point of using Zoom, so you're not exposed to other people?
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: August 12, 2021 at 01:59 PM (#6034090)
Just because you are on a video conference doesn't magically mean you are alone in a room. Come on.
   7. Kiko Sakata Posted: August 12, 2021 at 02:00 PM (#6034091)
Why would you wear a mask on a video conference?


Do we know for sure that the reporter was alone? Maybe he was calling in from a newsroom that had a mask requirement or something.
   8. RickG Posted: August 12, 2021 at 02:23 PM (#6034097)
I'm 99% sure the reporter was in the Wrigley press box. The reporter in question has been diligent about mask-wearing throughout the return, as far as I can tell. He's older, may have health issues, and none of that matters because Arrieta was just being a jerk.

"Pitcher is snippy after blowout loss" isn't exactly news, or reason to cut him. His ERA was over 7 for a bit last night, in start 20. That's reason enough.

Also, just to forestall possible other musings, the question was perfectly audible and appropriate- he was asked about his role as a mentor to the young guys the Cubs have called up. And he answered, so points for that. It seemed clear to me that had he won, Arrieta wouldn't have cared about the mask, but he lost, and didn't hold his tongue. Kinda think you sleep on and apologize for the next day, but, well....
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 12, 2021 at 02:43 PM (#6034101)
Just because you are on a video conference doesn't magically mean you are alone in a room. Come on.

OK, but I've been on like 1000 video conferences since this damn thing started and haven't seen a single mask. It's hard to hear/be heard if you're in a crowded place.

I'm 99% sure the reporter was in the Wrigley press box. The reporter in question has been diligent about mask-wearing throughout the return, as far as I can tell. He's older, may have health issues, and none of that matters because Arrieta was just being a jerk.

Agree on the jerk thing. Honest question. If the reporters don't get to interact with the players in person, why go to the ballpark. If this reporter is high risk, why doesn't he cover the game on TV?
   10. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2021 at 03:27 PM (#6034108)
Does this mean we'll have to hear that Cancel Culture got Arrieta?!

Jake was a treat to watch for a couple years there, but he's finished. As for the mask comment thing, you don't really get a lot of slack when you have an ERA around 7. Arrieta's political leanings aren't exactly a secret, so I'd put a sawbuck on his aversion to the reporter's mask having nothing to do with being unable to understand the reporter.
   11. Adam Starblind Posted: August 12, 2021 at 03:30 PM (#6034109)
OK, but I've been on like 1000 video conferences since this damn thing started and haven't seen a single mask.


That settles it. Take the reporter's children away.
   12. The Duke Posted: August 12, 2021 at 03:55 PM (#6034118)
Yes, masks worked so well the first time, we need to make everyone wear them again. People. Have made their choice. Most got the vaccine and some didn’t. I don’t see why masks are making a comeback now.
   13. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2021 at 03:59 PM (#6034120)
Sigh.
   14. Brian C Posted: August 12, 2021 at 04:13 PM (#6034127)
Yes, masks worked so well the first time, we need to make everyone wear them again. People. Have made their choice. Most got the vaccine and some didn’t. I don’t see why masks are making a comeback now.

This really runs the full gauntlet of stupid. Or, to make a baseball metaphor out of it, it really touches all the bases:

1. Irrelevant
2. Self-contradictory on its face
3. Clear lack of knowledge of facts, and for that matter, even the underlying concepts at work
4. Condescending despite 1-3

Way to go.
   15. vortex of dissipation Posted: August 12, 2021 at 04:45 PM (#6034140)
I take it that Arrieta wouldn't feel comfortable playing in Japan or Korea, where mask use has always been common, if no MLB team will sign him?
   16. chisoxcollector Posted: August 12, 2021 at 05:33 PM (#6034156)
#12 is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.
   17. GregD Posted: August 12, 2021 at 06:16 PM (#6034167)
Assume Cubs calculated (very marginal player) and (PR fallout among Chicago news followers and consumers) and decided #1 wasn't worth #2. Tough decision, but capitalism talks, right?
   18. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 12, 2021 at 06:44 PM (#6034170)
I would be surprised if it had anything to do with Chicago’s decision.
   19. Rough Carrigan Posted: August 12, 2021 at 07:16 PM (#6034172)
Sweden never had people wear masks and never did lockdowns. The progression of covid-19 in Sweden was almost exactly the same as in the UK where, like the U.S., they did masks and lockdowns.

It made no difference.
   20. Sleepy was just “inspecting the bunker”, y’all Posted: August 12, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6034176)
Sweden vs Denmark/Norway/Finland is a much better comparison due to demographic and economic factors. Denmark masked up and quarantined, Sweden did not.

Sweden has reported 1,433 deaths per million people over the course of the pandemic, compared with 440 in Denmark, 180 in Finland and 151 in Norway. Some statistical models showed that if UK had adopted Sweden’s tactics, nearly twice as many people would have died, while over half the people in Sweden who died would have survived using the UK strategy.

Meanwhile, Sweden’s strategy did nothing to help the economy. Sweden, Finland and Denmark all saw almost identical (-2.7% or -2.8%) gdp declines in 2020.

   21. Srul Itza Posted: August 12, 2021 at 08:02 PM (#6034180)
The population density in Sweden is 64 people per square mile

The population density in UK is 727 people per square mile

   22. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: August 12, 2021 at 08:12 PM (#6034184)
The population density in Sweden is 64 people per square mile

The population density in UK is 727 people per square mile


It's almost as if certain people are idiots. Or dishonest as hell.

Not that those are mutually exclusive, I suppose.
   23. RickG Posted: August 12, 2021 at 09:57 PM (#6034207)
@Snapper: Every team is doing media access a bit differently. The Cubs are only doing pre-game interviews In Person, and only doing postgame interviews On Zoom. I think that's partially due to expedience and partially due to the BBWAA. At Wrigley, you normally have to rush downstairs through the exiting crowd to get to the interview room - I could imagine the BBWAA considering that contact a bit more than necessary. The recent renovation brought an elevator, but it too is used by exiting fans postgame.

I haven't gotten back to Wrigley since the Pandemic so I don't know if all in-person pregame interviews are mask-only or not. I do know the reporter in question has been masked for those in-person interviews (I have seen pics and video).

The White Sox are doing most pre-game player interviews at home in person- on the road, if there is a big story, they make that player available on Zoom (for example, when Lance Lynn was announced as the Field of Dreams game starter). Tony LaRussa is doing everything on Zoom, pre and post. Postgame is online only.

Your question about 'why not cover the game on TV' is a pretty valid one, but it comes down to what a reporter's job is for a given outlet. The best reporters who are with the team every day, who file sidebars or deeper stories, sometimes need access in 1 on 1 scenarios. Those writing gamers really...don't. And accordingly the in-person contingent has shrunk a bit.

   24. Baldrick Posted: August 12, 2021 at 10:30 PM (#6034209)
I have done a ton of Zoom press conferences since the start of COVID. I've seen plenty of people wearing masks while asking (and answering) questions--especially since they've started to get some folks back on site. I've always participated from home so never have worn a mask. But others definitely have. It's super normal.
   25. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: August 12, 2021 at 11:29 PM (#6034220)
It's super normal.


NO NEW NORMAL, SHEEP!
   26. Nasty Nate Posted: August 13, 2021 at 09:23 PM (#6034335)
Speaking of new normal, the Cubs have already given up two touchdowns tonight.
   27. Captain Joe Bivens, Elderly Northeastern Jew Posted: August 14, 2021 at 06:29 PM (#6034412)
#12 is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read on this site.


Unfortunately, there are legions of people who think this way. We are doomed, just another variant or 2 away from seeing a virus they won't be able to come up with a vaccine for.
   28. Brian C Posted: August 14, 2021 at 11:38 PM (#6034456)
We are doomed, just another variant or 2 away from seeing a virus they won't be able to come up with a vaccine for.

This is probably just as dumb, though, even if it's dumb coming from the other direction.
   29. Rough Carrigan Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:03 PM (#6034586)
Go get your third through 17th booster shots, suckers. Enjoy your antibody dependent enhancement.
   30. Biscuit_pants Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:40 PM (#6034594)
Enjoy your antibody dependent enhancement.


I am not sure you understand how our immune system works. Yes, we are ALL dependent on antibodies to live, at all times, in all situations, since like forever.
   31. SoSH U at work Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:45 PM (#6034595)
Oh, he's just peddling the latest quackery, which he's pretty much been doing since the whole thing started. I'm sure he's watched Dr. Stock's recent school board appearance video on repeat.
   32. Biscuit_pants Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:49 PM (#6034596)
We are doomed, just another variant or 2 away from seeing a virus they won't be able to come up with a vaccine for.


Maybe, and that would suck, but we could be 2 variants away from a very contagious and not lethal at all too. Delta is scary and we are not handling it well as a whole but there is no direction of variant mutation that says things have to get worse.

   33. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 16, 2021 at 01:50 PM (#6034597)
Arrieta has signed with the Padres and is starting Wednesday at Coors Field, which is good news for the Rockies. Arrieta is replacing another Cubs castoff in the Padres rotation, Yu Darvish, who went on the IL.
   34. sunday silence (again) Posted: August 16, 2021 at 02:09 PM (#6034599)

I am not sure you understand how our immune system works. Yes, we are ALL dependent on antibodies to live...


So it sounds like he understands the immune system to some degree. Is there something missing?
   35. sunday silence (again) Posted: August 16, 2021 at 02:23 PM (#6034602)
So what's the consensus on how Arrieta turned his career around? He was nothing special in BAL, his first full season in CHI in 2014 he's got better control and way stingier on giving up HRs. Someone fixed his mechanics there?
   36. Kiko Sakata Posted: August 16, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6034605)
So what's the consensus on how Arrieta turned his career around? He was nothing special in BAL, his first full season in CHI in 2014 he's got better control and way stingier on giving up HRs. Someone fixed his mechanics there?


This article (from Spring Training 2016) gets into it a bit.

Arrieta went back to throwing crossfire, from the third base side of the rubber. Bosio made some tweaks. They worked on keeping Arrieta’s head in line with the plate, which reduced his tendency to overrotate and pull pitches to the glove side. They focused on a shorter stride and getting the ball to the arm side, which led to a more consistent release point, which led to better fastball command, which opened up the cutter/slider as the kill pitch.
   37. Biscuit_pants Posted: August 16, 2021 at 03:21 PM (#6034607)
So it sounds like he understands the immune system to some degree. Is there something missing?


The "Suckers'" part of the statement lead me to believe that the suckers were the ones getting the antibodies.
   38. Rough Carrigan Posted: August 16, 2021 at 06:22 PM (#6034644)
Did you actually get antibodies?

As to Sweden, it's not an apt comparison to Norway and Denmark solely in terms of fatality rate because Sweden has a nursing home system much like the U.S. and UK which Norway and Denmark, apparently don't.

If you look at the progress of covid-19 in cases, the graph for Sweden is virtually identical to the one for the UK. If masks were worthwhile that shouldn't be the case.

Before this became a matter for political correctness, there had been a dozen studies of the efficacy of masks . . . in hospitals, over the last 40 years. And the result of all those studies was a conclusion that masks didn't seem to have produced any positive effect and in some cases actually showed slightly negative results compared to staff not wearing masks.

I hope the enthusiastically obedient folks out there will be willing to take in data not given to them by the mainstream corporate media. The blog "meaning in history" has been doing a great job of bringing to light research done overseas that the U.S. media is studiously ignoring because it doesn't fit their narrative. meaninginhistory.blogspot.com

   39. Rough Carrigan Posted: August 16, 2021 at 06:45 PM (#6034647)
If you got antibodies, for how long?

In Israel, researchers examined Pfizer vaccine-generated antibodies in more than 200 people and found that on average they fell to undetectable levels about 6.5 months after the first shot - or roughly five after they reach full vaccination.

That doesn't seem very worthwhile.

They're having a bad time in Israel right now and, that's right on schedule if the covid-19 "vaccines" only confer any possible benefit for a few months. Are human beings physically different in Israel?
   40. Biscuit_pants Posted: August 17, 2021 at 08:15 AM (#6034695)
Before this became a matter for political correctness, there had been a dozen studies of the efficacy of masks . . . in hospitals, over the last 40 years. And the result of all those studies was a conclusion that masks didn't seem to have produced any positive effect and in some cases actually showed slightly negative results compared to staff not wearing masks.


You are not wrong but some of your details are. The 'masks are not effective studies' were not of people wearing them correctly but just wearing masks and continuing to touch their face and mask as if it were not there. If you do not wear your mask correctly, continue to touch your mask/face, or re-wear a mask multiple days in a row it can be not as effective to even worse for the wearer.

But, the bigger picture with mask wearing is not to protect you but others. Masks have been shown to be very effective if the wearer is sick/shedding virus from passing it on to others. That is why people should wear masks more than anything, just in case you have it you can protect others.

If you got antibodies, for how long?

Obviously that question is still being answered. If it's 8 months based on what is happening in Israel then that is unfortunate, but we don't know everything yet. The most vulnerable were vaccinated first so maybe they will need the shot every 8 months and the younger/healthier people will not. I guess we will see.
   41. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 17, 2021 at 11:16 AM (#6034720)
I wonder if, having gotten rid of Arrieta and Rizzo, the Cubs are over the vaccination threshold for relaxed protocols for the rest of the year.
   42. Ron J Posted: August 17, 2021 at 12:22 PM (#6034729)
#41 Based on what we've seen so far on breakthrough infections in the US it's 30% of the population have 95% of the infections. And a bigger skew for serious results despite the fact that breakthroughs appear to be more common for the immune compromised and elderly (IE the people for whom an infection is more likely to be a big deal)

Will the 30/95 numbers change over time? We just don't know. Will we see more serious results among the double vaccinated in a longer window? Again we don't know. Higher vaccination rates ... but yeah, that ship's sailed.
   43. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: August 17, 2021 at 12:30 PM (#6034734)
Are human beings physically different in Israel?


Jews have horns, do they not?
   44. Mefisto Posted: August 17, 2021 at 06:35 PM (#6034797)
Who knew that the foreskin protects against Covid!

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