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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Sunday, August 15, 2021D-Backs face Chase Field decision: Love it or list it
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Posted: August 15, 2021 at 02:26 PM | 23 comment(s)
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1. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 15, 2021 at 06:00 PM (#6034515)Are they really? Is there any doubt they're simply going to play in whichever city offers them the most cash and prizes to play there?
This middle part is such bullshit. What exactly does the average fan, or even a hypothetical fan, expect other than to have a comfortable seat in a nice ball yard and have a beer and a dog (evidently MLB thinks they want to gamble heavily during the game)? This is all about the real estate in the surrounding neighborhood and finding new ways to throw ads in people's faces, neither of which are things the spectators clamor for nor do they improve the in-game experience for the common fan.
As to Wrigley and real estate, as far as I know, the Ricketts purchased those properties fair and square. I wouldn't be surprised if they got some money tossed in by the city around streets, sidewalks, etc. but to my knowledge it wasn't a "we need a sweetheart deal on the real estate around Wrigley" type of thing. Is the land around the DBacks stadium publicly or privately owned?
Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.
not really much of the tenant's business, but that's a simple case. you're seeing greener grass, the annual lease comes up, you get a nice new spot, you hire a moving truck, and it's done.
this..... yeah, it's a little more complicated.
but in either case, beggars can't be choosers.
Tropicana:Fail
Guaranteed Rate/New Comiskey:Fail
Camden:Success
Progressive:Success (?)
Coors Field:Success
Turner Field:Fail
Chase:Fail
T-Mobile:Success
Post Camden, MLB did pretty well, IMO. Oracle and PNC came right after these too.
Guaranteed Rate Field was a disaster when it opened, but a series of renovations and general corrections have made it into a perfectly acceptable if unexceptional ballpark. It's not so much a "fail" as much as a solid C+.
Isn't the main issue with Chase that the DBacks ownership has basically let it go to sh-t as a means of extorting money to renovate it? Seems like that was the news here a couple years back. Otherwise, it's a pretty solid park, no?
Progressive is a thoroughgoing success when you consider the Indians' ridiculous sellout streak and the ballpark it replaced.
Comerica is also a 90's stadium... Tiger Stadium should never have been abandoned, but Comerica is a very nice place. Success given that it replaced an icon and didn't fall flat.
I don't know if Turner really falls in the same category as the rest, since it wasn't built as a baseball stadium but converted from its use in the Olympics.
And which ones are Oracle and T-Mobile? Are those China Basin and Cascadia?
All I really know about Chase is that every time I go to spring training, my plane flies right over it and you can see down inside, which is kind of cool. And then every time I think: "Wait, why do the Diamondbacks have a whole other stadium in the suburbs of this very same city for spring training, when this perfectly good one is sitting empty right here?" I'm sure there's some sort of reason, but I don't know what it is.;
Well, not as a ballpark, no. (And it would still be a ballpark if the Braves weren't so desperate to make moar money by getting away from teh darkies.)
And while Chase and whatever follows it in the Valley will obviously be a terrible moniker, Phoenix at least knows how to name an airport.
If they had simply rebuilt Turner in Cobb they could have had the best of both worlds
They have an entire complex at salt river, which they share with Colorado and the logistics for spring work much better.
The Battery has been open awhile and they have struggled somewhat to fill out the commercial real estate with tenants and with tenants that can make it work.
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