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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Monday, November 11, 2013Dave Parker on success, failure, fight of his lifeCobra…still spitting to all fields.
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Posted: November 11, 2013 at 05:45 AM | 20 comment(s)
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1. GEB4000 Posted: November 11, 2013 at 07:58 AM (#4597791)Vile calumny.
He was more of an eclair man.
Led the league with 26 assists, but also led the league with 15 errors. Still earned the Gold Glove.
Stole 17 bases, but got caught 19 times.
Also played second base (for the only time in his career) during a 14-inning game that saw Terry Forster play RF.
And in 1985, when he finished second in the MVP vote, he went 5 for 18 on steals while leading the league in doubles and GIDP.
That was enough to get him a second base rating in the next season's SOM cards. It was the worst possible rating for the position but it was there.
Wow.
And look at his salaries. He first made big money in '79, when he was paid $775K. And he fell right off the cliff after that. Talk about taking the money and running.
He was really good. Few players can take a five year mid-career vacation and come back and play well enough to hang around till they are forty.
Did he? Or maybe it just seems that way because Parker was rebounding from a lower baseline. Rice had two WAR seasons north of 5 after the age of 30, Parker none. Rice also had the highest single season WAR of the two - 7.6.
I think they were comparable players but Rice had a better career because he stayed in shape and kept his nose clean.
He had a very good career, with an excellent peak and some bulk value. It didn't amount to a Hall of Fame career but there's no shame in that. Too many people feel that by not supporting a player for the Hall of Fame you are denigrating his career. That's not at all the case, but anyway since the steroids hysteria engulfed the Hall of Fame it's become irrelevant who makes it and who doesn't.
I'd give Parker the peak, since he had 21 WAR in 3 and Rice's best 3-year-run was 19 but it's closer than I would have guessed.
The Pirates first choice to replace Clemente in 1973 was Manny Sanguillen. Milt May was a good catching prospect, Parker started the season in Triple A after playing in A ball in 1972 (I think he won a Caribbean batting title that offseason?). It surprises me now to see that the Sanguillen experiment lasted as long as it did, until mid-June. He had committed eight errors, but also had six assists, and was hitting well. The team was doing badly, though, and so there was a shakeup with Sanguillen going back behind the plate. It seems to me that Sanguillen was never the same defensive catcher after the failed shift.
Gene Clines had hit over .300 in 1971-72, and he got the next shot at right field, but he didn't hit. Richie Zisk then took over, and solidified the position in August and September, and for 131 games in 1974. Parker did take over in right in 1975.
Like a number of posters here, I remember him when he played and there were times when he was considered the best player in the game. Had a great, short peak, but just not enough long term compiling to make a compelling case. If you are going in as a peak candidate, the numbers need to Koufaxian to be considered.
Whoever transcribed those quotes should be fired.
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Is it just me, or does he not understand what forgiveness is all about. Not that I have anything to forgive him for, but if I did it wouldn't change the past. If someone assaulted me and was in prison for the act my forgiveness wouldn't change their prison sentence. Beyond that, Parker not getting elected to Cooperstown has nothing to do with whether he is forgiven or not for his past mistakes. He isn't in the HoF because the totality of his career falls short of HoF standards. Forgiving his drug usage doesn't add 100 homers or 350 RBI or whatever might have impressed the voters.
Sadly, Griffey Jr. had this career also. 76 WAR through age 30, just 8 WAR thereafter.
I wonder if this happens more to outfielders than to infielders.
I don't think so. For every Parker, Straw or Griff Jr. you've got a Sisler, Nomar, Petrocelli or Fregosi.
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