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Tuesday, March 26, 2019

Despite lack of winning so far, Mike Trout believes in the Angels

ANAHEIM, Calif. — As is his routine, Jeff Trout, Mike’s dad, will be sitting at the breakfast table in Millville, New Jersey, reading the local newspaper, catching up on who’s doing what, who’s winning, who’s not, and where it is we all find ourselves today. Sometimes he’ll get all the way to the obituaries, which, he admits, happens more now. Get to a certain age and curiosity gets the better of you.

He’s 58.

And wouldn’t you know, after a few sentences that seek to gather up a whole life, every once in a while, there’ll be something like, “One of her joys was watching Mike Trout play baseball every night on television.” Or, “He counted himself among Mike Trout’s biggest fans.”

It gets Jeff in the heart every time. Every time. His boy, Mike, really does that to people. For people. Gives folks something to do, something to believe in, something to root for. A local guy. A good kid. Somebody who smiled and said hi, who comes home and loves them all back. Mike will go off and become famous and rich and win awards and whatever else comes with baseball and excellence, and what romances his ex-ballplayer dad is that it means something.


QLE Posted: March 26, 2019 at 06:18 AM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: angels, belief, fathers and sons, mike trout

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   1. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: March 27, 2019 at 03:00 AM (#5825646)
This is a weird thing to say and not on-topic.

But this is the third consecutive article where I RTFE, thought to myself "Passan is taking an oddly positive tone lately", moused-over, saw Yahoo, clicked through to confirm - and it was a Tim Brown piece.
   2. Rally Posted: March 27, 2019 at 08:18 AM (#5825659)
Passan's not with Yahoo anymore, he's moved on to ESPN.
   3. jmurph Posted: March 27, 2019 at 09:08 AM (#5825672)
It's probably pretty great for your son to be the best player in baseball and one of the best of all time. Now, as to the headline: Mike Trout should definitely not believe in the Angels because they don't deserve that kind of faith.
   4. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 27, 2019 at 09:56 AM (#5825681)
Mike Trout should believe in angels, before he believes in The Angels. The celestial beings are much more likely to get him to the playoffs than the team.
   5. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: March 27, 2019 at 11:02 AM (#5825694)
I watched the beginning of the Trout contract extension press conference, which took place outdoors, on a beautiful sunny day, with probably several hundred fans in an orderly crowd with his teammates and Angels employees. The owner, Arte Moreno, spoke at some length, then introduced Trout.

Trout spoke for a couple of minutes, got kind of choked up at one point, and seemed genuinely humbled and understated about the magnitude of the contract he had just signed. But he spoke for only a couple of minutes (far shorter than Moreno's introduction), was IMO sort of inarticulate, stammered around a bit, and then said he wanted to go back to getting ready for the season and helping the Angels win another World Series.

He didn't say anything wrong, no gaffes, nothing terribly awkward, no malapropisms. But he definitely is not interested in being the center of attention, at least off the field. He seems to know that he's not a natural public communicator, but also that he is a once-in-a-generation special baseball player.

I get why Rob Manfried would be frustrated about this - Trout is a good looking guy who seems to have no baggage, plays in a southern California media market, and is an otherworldly player. But Trout has zero interest in being the face of the game, seemingly zero interest in going somewhere where he'll get a lot more media attention, and plays his game in a way where he extremely good at every facet of the game...but which is somehow still a little subtle to the non-baseball nut.

To put Trout's greatest into perspective: He's at 64.2 WAR right now, which is tied with Hall of Famers Dave Winfield and Vic Willis for 136th best all-time. If he averages 7 WAR for the next 10 years (He's average over 9 a season so far, including a season where he missed a third of the year), he will be entering his age 37 season in 9th place all-time in WAR, with 134.2. The only eight people ahead of him, at that point: Ruth, Walter Johnson, Cy Young, Bonds, Mays, Cobb, Aaron, Clemens.

In terms of beating Babe Ruth for #1, it's very tough, obviously, mainly because of the extra 20 WAR Ruth gets for his pitching. However, through age 26 (which is when Ruth gave up pitching), Trout and Ruth are almost exactly tied in WAR. Consider that: Trout has been, at least as measured by WAR, as valuable as Ruth - which includes Ruth's remarkable 1921 season when he had 457 total bases.

If, over the next four seasons (ages 27-30 seasons), Trout accumulates 35 WAR or more, he will remain ahead of Ruth's pace through age 30 (which would include Ruth's legendary 1927 60 HR season). The real challenge would be ages 31-36, when Ruth average just over 10 WAR a season for those six years. If Trout could stay in hailing range through age 36, there would be an opportunity to catch up from age 37 on, when Ruth accumulated less than 20 more WAR, but where Trout's fitness could theoretically keep him productive at the plate right to age 40.

Anyway, all the power to Mike Trout - he is remarkable, and if he wants to play baseball in relatively anonymity for the next 12 years, better than anybody has ever played baseball, then good for him.
   6. David Nieporent (now, with children) Posted: March 27, 2019 at 01:08 PM (#5825734)

Mike Trout should believe in angels, before he believes in The Angels. The celestial beings are much more likely to get him to the playoffs than the team.
But a lot less likely to pay him $400M.
   7. Zonk WARRIORS ALONE! Posted: March 27, 2019 at 01:23 PM (#5825738)
So he believes in Christopher Lloyd then....

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