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Detroit Tigers will retire Lou Whitaker’s No. 1 during 2020 season

The Detroit Tigers don’t need to wait for Lou Whitaker to become a Hall of Famer.

In their strongest statement on his ongoing Cooperstown candidacy, the team announced Tuesday they will be retiring Whitaker’s No. 1, which he wore from 1978-1995. It will be the ninth retired number in Tigers history.

The ceremony will be held on Saturday, Aug. 29 before the Tigers’ 6:10 p.m. game against the Boston Red Sox.

In 19 seasons, Whitaker hit .276 with 244 home runs, 143 stolen bases and an on-base percentage of .363 in nearly 10,000 plate appearances. The second baseman won the 1984 World Series with the Tigers and was a five-time American League All-Star. Whitaker won four Silver Slugger Awards, three Gold Glove Awards and was the 1978 AL Rookie of the Year.

Well, at least that’s one honor he’s getting next year.

 

QLE Posted: December 18, 2019 at 01:49 AM | 14 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. flournoy Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:56 AM (#5909485)
Why did they wait this long?
   2. eric Posted: December 18, 2019 at 10:02 AM (#5909490)
Why did they wait this long?


Maybe they were hoping it would be a big occasion to celebrate after his HOF election. Now, perhaps, they are hoping the recognition will help spur on his HOF election.

Trammell's number was retired soon after his induction.
   3. flournoy Posted: December 18, 2019 at 10:32 AM (#5909509)
That is undoubtedly the case, but it's pretty weak. The Tigers shouldn't wait for permission from the Hall of Fame to bestow their own honors on their own players. What kind of message does that send? "Well, we weren't sure if Alan Trammell, who was a star for us for 20 years, was worthy of us honoring him. But the Hall of Fame is going to honor him, so I guess we'll jump on the bandwagon too."
   4. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: December 18, 2019 at 12:21 PM (#5909576)
The actual uniform they retire should be the one he wore in the 1985 All-Star Game.
   5. bbmck Posted: December 18, 2019 at 06:53 PM (#5909758)
Most position player WAR for each franchise for a living player who did not play in 2019 that doesn't have their number retired, Joe Mauer already retired by Twins some teams don't wait:

(75.1) - DET Lou Whitaker
66.5 - BOS Dwight Evans
61.8 - PHI Chase Utley
61.1 - ATL Andruw Jones
58.8 - CHC Sammy Sosa
54.2 - NYY Alex Rodriguez

52.1 - OAK Sal Bando
50.4 - NYM David Wright
50.3 - PIT Barry Bonds
49.6 - HOU Cesar Cedeno
48.6 - CLE Kenny Lofton

48.3 - COL Larry Walker
47.7 - LAD Ron Cey
45.0 - STL Ted Simmons
44.8 - DET Bill Freehan
44.8 - KCR Amos Otis

44.6 - TEX Rafael Palmeiro
40.6 - LAA Tim Salmon
39.5 - CIN George Foster
39.4 - CHW Robin Ventura
38.1 - SEA Alex Rodriguez

38.0 - MIN Chuck Knoblauch
37.5 - TOR Tony Fernandez
37.0 - WSN Tim Wallach
36.0 - BAL Bobby Grich
35.8 - SFG Will Clark

35.6 - TBR Carl Crawford
30.7 - MIL Cecil Cooper
22.4 - MIA Luis Castillo
20.4 - SDP Adrian Gonzalez
18.1 - ARI Steve Finley

37.9 Jim Edmonds assuming the Cardinals retire Ted Simmons number now that he has been elected to the Hall of Fame. Tim Raines is retired by the Nationals, Vladimir Guerrero isn't (yet). 36.6 Darryl Strawberry if you don't count David Wright as retired.
   6. bbmck Posted: December 18, 2019 at 07:13 PM (#5909760)
Most pitching WAR for each franchise for a living player who did not play in 2019 that doesn't have their number retired:

80.7 - BOS Roger Clemens
56.9 - TOR Dave Stieb
52.0 - LAA Chuck Finley
51.7 - CHW Wilbur Wood
48.3 - CHC Rick Reuschel

47.6 - BAL Mike Mussina
47.1 - KCR Kevin Appier
46.6 - DET Mickey Lolich
45.8 - HOU Roy Oswalt
45.6 - MIN Brad Radke

45.1 - WSN Steve Rogers
42.5 - CLE Sam McDowell
41.6 - NYM Dwight Gooden
39.6 - LAD Orel Hershiser
39.0 - SEA Randy Johnson

36.8 - PHI Curt Schilling
36.4 - CIN Jose Rijo
35.1 - NYY Mike Mussina
33.0 - ARI Brandon Webb
32.6 - TEX Charlie Hough

32.0 - PIT John Candelaria
31.0 - OAK Tim Hudson
30.8 - SFG Johnny Antonelli
30.3 - MIL Teddy Higuera
27.6 - STL Chris Carpenter

25.8 - MIA Josh Johnson
24.8 - SDP Jake Peavy
24.1 - ATL Tim Hudson
19.7 - TBR James Shields
18.9 - COL Ubaldo Jimenez
   7. SoSH U at work Posted: December 18, 2019 at 07:18 PM (#5909763)
The Tigers shouldn't wait for permission from the Hall of Fame to bestow their own honors on their own players.


I agree. I really dislike clubs tying the honor to what some other organization does.

Roberto Alomar went into the Hall as a Blue Jay. That doesn't make him more deserving of having his number retired by the Jays than Dave Stieb.



   8. cardsfanboy Posted: December 18, 2019 at 08:58 PM (#5909776)
That is undoubtedly the case, but it's pretty weak. The Tigers shouldn't wait for permission from the Hall of Fame to bestow their own honors on their own players. What kind of message does that send? "Well, we weren't sure if Alan Trammell, who was a star for us for 20 years, was worthy of us honoring him. But the Hall of Fame is going to honor him, so I guess we'll jump on the bandwagon too."


Absolutely agree.... for the most part, any player who plays 15+ year for a franchise, and is a borderline hofer, probably should have his number automatically retired anyway. There might be an exception here or there(not the borderline hof part, but the 15 year part)---- (first name that came to me was Tim Wakefield---and I'm not sure he shouldn't have his number retired...for the Cardinals it's Bob Forsch)
   9. RJ in TO Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:26 PM (#5909779)
While the Jays haven't retired Stieb's number, he is one of their "Level of Excellence" honorees, along with Tony Fernandez, George Bell, Roberto Alomar, Carlos Delgado, Joe Carter, and Roy Halladay. Halladay and Alomar have also had their numbers retired.

Cito Gaston, Tom Cheek, Paul Beeston, and Pat Gillick are also part of the Jays "Level of Excellence".
   10. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:40 PM (#5909781)
Most pitching WAR for each franchise for a living player who did not play in 2019 that doesn't have their number retired:

39.0 - SEA Randy Johnson


It's likely that Seattle would have retired Johnson's #51 if Ichiro hadn't worn it (after making sure that was OK with Johnson). Now that Ichiro has retired, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before they hold a dual ceremony to retire it, honoring both of them. I don't think they'll wait until Ichiro enters Cooperstown.
   11. SoSH U at work Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:46 PM (#5909782)
While the Jays haven't retired Stieb's number, he is one of their "Level of Excellence" honorees, along with Tony Fernandez, George Bell, Roberto Alomar, Carlos Delgado, Joe Carter, and Roy Halladay. Halladay and Alomar have also had their numbers retired.


That just makes no sense to me. Alomar spent five seasons in Toronto. Stieb spent 15. He was the star of the team when they first became competitive. He's a couple of misguided starts with Chicago from being the only guy of note who spent his entire career with the club. No one has put up more value in a Toronto uniform.

Not that you aren't aware of all this, of course.

Is there any chance that Jays fans just don't remember him that fondly (perhaps because of his frequent displays of churlishness at any infielder who deigned to make an error behind him)? Or is it just a Hall = number retirement thing?
   12. RJ in TO Posted: December 18, 2019 at 09:50 PM (#5909783)
Is there any chance that Jays fans just don't remember him that fondly (perhaps because of his frequent displays of churlishness at any infielder who deigned to make an error behind him)? Or is it just a Hall = number retirement thing?
It is purely the latter.
   13. flournoy Posted: December 18, 2019 at 10:44 PM (#5909795)
See, now that's just terrible. Retired numbers are the highest honor the Blue Jays bestow upon their former players, and they're letting some unrelated organization decide who gets those honors.

The Braves retired Dale Murphy's #3 in 1994, the year after he retired. Hall of Fame be damned. And that was the right decision.
   14. SoSH U at work Posted: December 18, 2019 at 10:44 PM (#5909796)
It is purely the latter.


In other words, the Blue Jays have ceded control of the biggest honor the club can bestow on a player to a bunch of sportswriters from the states.

Edit: Wow, I wasn't expecting to have to coke that.

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