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Friday, April 01, 2022

Dodgers land Kimbrel from White Sox for Pollock

The Dodgers completed a trade that sends outfielder AJ Pollock to the White Sox in exchange for closer Craig Kimbrel on Friday.

The deal gives Los Angeles a potential ninth-inning replacement for longtime closer Kenley Jansen, who signed a one-year deal with the Braves in March. The White Sox exercised Kimbrel’s $16 million club option for this season, but with All-Star closer Liam Hendriks under contract, the 33-year-old Kimbrel was expendable.

Over 12 seasons, Kimbrel has posted a 2.18 ERA with a 14.7 K/9 and 372 saves. The White Sox acquired him from the Cubs last July for second baseman Nick Madrigal and right-hander Codi Heuer.

Pollock, meanwhile, adds another proven outfielder to the White Sox roster, allowing Eloy Jiménez to spend more time as the designated hitter. The 34-year-old is in the final season of a four-year, $55 million deal, and he has a $10 million club option with a $5 million buyout for 2023.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: April 01, 2022 at 12:57 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: April 01, 2022 at 02:50 PM (#6069987)
Good trade for both teams
   2. Walt Davis Posted: April 01, 2022 at 04:32 PM (#6070009)
According to b-r and Cot's, it's a player option for Pollock. Cot's also says he gets a trade bonus of $1.5 M. On the other hand, his "salary" for 2022 is just $10 M. So if all that is correct, Pollock is owed $16.5 M for this season (or $21.5 for 2 seasons) plus I guess he gets another $1.5 if the White Sox end up trading him too. Anyway, pretty much an exact wash money-wise.

Pollock can't stay healthy but he's been a better player when healthy than I realized with 9 WAR, 3 WAA over the last 5 season which has been about 3 full seasons worth of PAs.
   3. RickG Posted: April 01, 2022 at 04:47 PM (#6070012)
Love this trade for the White Sox, and not just in the "Nice Trade, who'd we get" style. But there is that - Kimbrel clearly had to go. He gets to close in LA, and if that means he re-discovers himself, good on him. It just wasn't happening in Chicago.

And if the Sox couldn't clear payroll, then getting Pollock is a fine swap. Walt's right, he can't stay healthy, but the Sox have enough outfield options that they might only need 100-110 games from him. He can spell Robert, he can be a defensive replacement in left for Eloy, he can start half the time or more in right.

Ironically, the Sox are probably a bullpen arm down now thanks to the Crochet injury. And I've privately been clamoring for another starting pitcher. But at least the offense is set....
   4. asinwreck Posted: April 01, 2022 at 05:04 PM (#6070017)
If Pollock, Robert, Jiménez, and Grandal are healthy enough to play 110 games apiece, the 2022 White Sox lineup will be a lot more potent than the 2021 lineup was. Pollock's effectiveness against right-handed pitching addresses a major need, and I look forward to watching him and Robert covering so much ground that Eloy is not a complete liability in left.

   5. JRVJ Posted: April 01, 2022 at 07:39 PM (#6070033)
If I'm doing the math right, the Dodgers are taking on about $2.25MM (plus CBT penalties) in this trade.

So it's not much in the way of money for them, and it does help rearrange the chairs.
   6. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 01, 2022 at 09:20 PM (#6070051)
Kimbrel is 9th all time in saves with 372 I think.

The evolution of the career save record is quite a sight. When Dave Giusti retired in 1977 he was 8th all time I think. As far as I can tell at that pt. the all time list was:

Wilhelm, 228
Sparky Lyle 201 (still active*)
Roy Face, 191
Perranoski 178
McDaniel 174
Stu Miller,153
Don McMahon 152
Abernathy 149
Giusti 145

Giusti is currently at 91st place. Hes still alive and living in Upper St Clair PA.

*Lyle was not destined to become the all time save leader. He passed Wilhelm in late season 1980 but Rollie Fingers had already broken the record earlier that year.
   7. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: April 01, 2022 at 09:26 PM (#6070054)
It's surprising and refreshing to see a deal where a major league veteran is traded for another vet, with no element of salary dumping involved.
   8. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 01, 2022 at 09:40 PM (#6070059)
EDIT: Fingers was actually in 6th place in 1977 w/ 171.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: April 02, 2022 at 04:10 PM (#6070110)
Pollock's days as a CF look to be pretty much done. Sure 10 starts a year or something and, barring a Robert injury, I doubt the Sox even need that many (I assume that's Adam Engel's job). His defense in LF at this point is rated as average too. He's only got 20 career innings in RF (how's the arm?) Anyway, Robert might be covering a lot of ground, Pollock probably just an average amount. He's also a RHB with a pretty standard platoon split so he's not much of a boost vs RHP (he's just an overall good hitter).
   10. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 02, 2022 at 09:06 PM (#6070143)
(how's the arm?)


Seems below average since age 30. Also a bit below average at baserunner advances.

Robert might be covering a lot of ground,


Statcast gives him +9 runs over the last two seasons (120 games). BIS 12 runs, presumably includes assists, etc. So almost certainly yes.
   11. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: April 02, 2022 at 09:57 PM (#6070158)
Robert


A little off topic and I know he's going on his 3rd year, but am I the only who thinks this guy is a BEAST and looks way too big to play CF? I know Trout is probably bigger, but Robert just look really big sometimes when he's in the box.
Of course as pointed out above, the best part is that he's actually pretty darn good at playing CF.

As for the trade and without delving into any stats, I'm never a fan of trading a postion player who looks decent(if oft injured) for a reliever. It never seems to work out. Good job by the White Sox here.
   12. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 02, 2022 at 11:16 PM (#6070164)
Interestingly, Robert's footspeed at 28ft/sec puts him at a mere 30th percentile among CFers. I guess he uses his speed well he doesnt steal lot, but at a high rate.
   13. Jobu is silent on the changeup Posted: April 02, 2022 at 11:35 PM (#6070166)
I choose to read #6 as if it states that Sparky Lyle is, in fact, *still* active - and you can't stop me.
   14. The Duke Posted: April 02, 2022 at 11:38 PM (#6070167)
13. Me, as well.
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: April 02, 2022 at 11:40 PM (#6070168)
The most surprising omission from that list is John Hiller, who recorded only 125 saves. You would expect more from a career-long reliever who was not just a contemporary of all those guys, but better than all except Wilhelm. Closing for the late 70s Tigers just didn't yield a lot of opportunities, I guess.
   16. Howie Menckel Posted: April 02, 2022 at 11:41 PM (#6070169)
Pollock had a preposterous 3- or 4-week run for the Dodgers at midseason last year before inevitably getting hurt. the talent still lurks in there, somewhere.

Kimbrel got "Charlie Brown-ed" in his Dodgers spring debut today, fwiw
   17. sunday silence (again) Posted: April 03, 2022 at 01:20 AM (#6070173)
I am happy to announce that Sparky Lyle is indeed still alive.
   18. baxter Posted: April 03, 2022 at 01:29 AM (#6070174)
Yes, good for Albert Walter Lyle; I didn't think he was still pitching, but I thought he was alive (and don't want to jinx him).
But on the Dodgers game did Kershaw look good? Anyone see?

   19. John DiFool2 Posted: April 03, 2022 at 06:58 AM (#6070177)
I am sure SL is still actively sitting on birthday cakes, at least.
   20. asinwreck Posted: April 03, 2022 at 10:15 AM (#6070182)
Sparky Lyle is only a couple of years older than active pitcher Bill Lee.
   21. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: April 03, 2022 at 01:33 PM (#6070196)
how's the arm?


He blew it up a few years ago and has been reduced to just-above-Damon levels at this point. I seem to remember it was good enough for RF in a pinch before that, though.

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