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Dodgers’ Trevor Bauer has suspension reduced from 324 to 194 games - The Athletic $

I have read that the Dodgers would release him if the suspension were lifted. If that’s true, he’d then become a free agent. Fabian Ardaya says, “Dodgers have until Jan. 6 to either put Trevor Bauer back on the 40-man roster or release him, as others have said.” If that does happen, will he be blackballed by the other teams in the league or will some team take a chance on him?

Trevor Bauer’s 324-game suspension for violating the league’s joint domestic violence, sexual assault and child abuse policy was reduced to 194 games by an arbitration panel Thursday.

Bauer’s suspension remains the longest to be handed down under that policy since it went into effect in 2015.

MLB said in a statement it would “abide by the neutral arbitrator’s decision.” Bauer, who will miss the first 50 games of the season, will be eligible to return on May 24, 2023, the league said.

jimfurtado Posted: December 22, 2022 at 08:28 PM | 27 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Duke Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:03 PM (#6110611)
Well, they will DFA him immediately I assume and hope for a trade partner. Doubtful. Will anyone pick him up for league minimum? I say someone will. SFG would love to beat LAD with Bauer. LAA - is getting Trout to the playoffs worth it? TEX? Maybe Bauer can help get them to playoffs. Cle? No place like home. Rays? They love a bargain. Red Sox? They already hate Bloom in Boston, no downside.


As for Bauer, that's a bad result. I thought for sure he'd get it reduced quite a bit more.
   2. reech Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:14 PM (#6110615)
No way San Francisco goes near this guy.
And, given the amount of negativity the Cleveland Browns encountered because of an un repentent Watson, it's a dumb move for any MLB team to grab Bauer.
   3. /muteself 57i66135 Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:18 PM (#6110616)
he can always get a job at twitter.
   4. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:18 PM (#6110617)
This sucks. The Dodgers were supposed to reset the luxury tax this year and this makes that much tougher.
   5. DCA Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:25 PM (#6110618)
I don't think the Browns got grief for signing Watson, so much as for signing him to the biggest contract in league history.

Bauer for normal money should be tolerable.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:29 PM (#6110620)
This sucks. The Dodgers were supposed to reset the luxury tax this year and this makes that much tougher.

Gee, I'm sure the whole league weeps for the poor, put upon Dodgers.
   7. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: December 22, 2022 at 09:37 PM (#6110621)
I don't think the Browns got grief for signing Watson, so much as for signing him to the biggest contract in league history.


I'm sorry, but what planet are you living on?
   8. person man Posted: December 22, 2022 at 10:01 PM (#6110625)
can't speak for DCA, but i myself live on planet Cleveland, and i assure you browns fans have no problem cheering for watson.
and never seemed bothered by the signing.
a few people griped, and that was that.

i myself am not a browns fan.

(and bauer would not be welcomed back by guardians management for any reason.)
   9. Brian C Posted: December 22, 2022 at 10:07 PM (#6110628)
I'm sorry, but what planet are you living on?

I guess it's worth asking who they got grief from. Have they had trouble selling out their games? Are TV ratings down? How are merch sales going?

I don't know the answers to those questions, but my sense is that there was a lot of "outrage" when the Browns signed him that faded to the point where hardly anyone noticed when his suspension actually ended. Certainly he's not prominently featured in the discourse at this point, several weeks later. And in reality, it's mostly a small percentage of people who get worked up over these kinds of things. There's obviously the press, and the internet scold brigade, but by and large it seems to me that most people are content to root for their teams and let the legal system work these things out.

I'd imagine the backlash to signing Bauer would vary from market to market to some extent. But I don't think that it's impossible for him to come back, probably to loud disapproval at first that quickly fades after people get bored and move on to the next thing.
   10. DCA Posted: December 22, 2022 at 10:10 PM (#6110630)
I'm sorry, but what planet are you living on?

That was poorly phrased, but I don't think the PR would have been nearly as bad if he had signed for a moderate-sized contract.
   11. The Duke Posted: December 22, 2022 at 10:17 PM (#6110631)
Bauer would be in a weird spot of potentially double - dipping in 2023. $22 from LAD and who knows how much from various suitors. Another 1/10 ? He can do that, right?
   12. drdr Posted: December 23, 2022 at 01:02 AM (#6110644)
#11
No. Everything under $22M goes to his former club. That's why released players are always paid the league minimum.
   13. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: December 23, 2022 at 01:44 AM (#6110645)
When Bauer was signed, his contract was for $40m in 2021, $45m in 2022 and $17m in 2023 with opt outs after each season. That's what was reported when the contract was signed. Did the suspension smooth out the layout of the money?
   14. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: December 23, 2022 at 03:43 AM (#6110647)
This sucks. The Dodgers were supposed to reset the luxury tax this year and this makes that much tougher.
Apparently, the team - as of now - jusssssssst slides under the line by $3 million.
   15. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: December 23, 2022 at 03:44 AM (#6110648)
(and bauer would not be welcomed back by guardians management for any reason.)
He will not be welcomed back by the Dodgers, nor the Guardians, nor the D-backs, nor UCLA. As for Cincy, you'll have to ask them.
   16. John Reynard Posted: December 23, 2022 at 05:40 AM (#6110651)
I predict the Rangers sign him to a multi-year deal. Year 1 at min wage, then probably large numbers in incentives and maybe $30M guaranteed total over 2 extra years....can elevate as high as $85M with the incentives in '24 and '25 though.
   17. TomH Posted: December 23, 2022 at 06:54 AM (#6110652)
help me understand what this cosst the LAD:

- if Bauer remains unsigned, while the Dodgers release him, they owqe Bauer $22M?
- if Bauer signs elsewhere for let's say $2M, the Dodgers owe Bauer what?
   18. Captain Joe Bivens, Pointless and Wonderful Posted: December 23, 2022 at 07:56 AM (#6110655)
20M
   19. The Duke Posted: December 23, 2022 at 08:34 AM (#6110659)
12 so if there is a bidding war Bauer wants all the 2023 money put towards his 2023 salary. Which means he could make a lot more in 2024-2026
Than you might expect because he can't earn addl dollars in 2023
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: December 23, 2022 at 09:02 AM (#6110662)
12 so if there is a bidding war Bauer wants all the 2023 money put towards his 2023 salary. Which means he could make a lot more in 2024-2026
Than you might expect because he can't earn addl dollars in 2023


Pretty sure whatever team signs him will pay him league minimum in 2023, and then $X thereafter. Neither party has any incentive for his 2023 salary to be higher than min.
   21. The Duke Posted: December 23, 2022 at 09:12 AM (#6110665)

Dodgers must have known the result a while ago as they are now right up against luxury tax amount. That can't be coincidence
   22. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 23, 2022 at 09:49 AM (#6110670)
When Bauer was signed, his contract was for $40m in 2021, $45m in 2022 and $17m in 2023 with opt outs after each season. That's what was reported when the contract was signed. Did the suspension smooth out the layout of the money?

I don't think that's right, at least not according to Cot's. That puts his payouts as follows: $10M signing bonus (paid in $5M installments 3/15/21 and 7/15/21), 21:$28M (all payable 11/1/21), 22:$32M, 23:$32M

So he was set to make $32M this year but that will be reduced by the suspension to about $22.5M. Per Cot's: Bauer reinstated by independent arbitrator 12/22/22, with suspension reduced to 194 games (144 games in 2022 and 50 games in 2023 with credit for time on administrative leave), with Bauer losing $28,131,868 of 2022 salary (160/182 calendar days) and $9,462,365 of 2023 salary (55/186 calendar days)

As for Cincy, you'll have to ask them.


He wasn't there that long and as far as I remember didn't burn any bridges. The Reds could certainly use the cheap help. I wonder.
   23. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: December 23, 2022 at 10:25 AM (#6110677)
[22] Yes, I am aware of how his contract is structured now, but that’s different than how it was reported at the time as proved by the CBS article that I linked. So either the contract got restructured or the reports from when it was signed were just straight up wrong.
   24. /muteself 57i66135 Posted: December 23, 2022 at 12:40 PM (#6110691)
   25. DFA Posted: December 23, 2022 at 01:01 PM (#6110694)
Dodgers must have known the result a while ago as they are now right up against luxury tax amount. That can't be coincidence


Don't know for sure, nor I do know how concerned the Dodgers are about the tax. But the same thought also crossed my mind.
   26. Jobu is silent on the changeup Posted: December 23, 2022 at 01:56 PM (#6110707)
Jimbo Fisher's people are already talking to Bauer's people. If you don't tell Jimbo that the sport he coaches isn't baseball, I'm sure Trevor won't either.
   27. Der-K's enjoying the new boygenius album. Posted: January 06, 2023 at 07:29 PM (#6112250)
He’s been DFA’d

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