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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Wednesday, September 15, 2021Does Javier Báez’s enigmatic nature make his impending free agency messier?
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Posted: September 15, 2021 at 04:41 PM | 16 comment(s)
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1. Walt Davis Posted: September 15, 2021 at 06:50 PM (#6039869)If anything, that is remarkable consistency in ISO. Even for a walk-resistant guy like Javy, a 30 point swing in ISO in a month is just 3-4 XB -- i.e. +/- one HR. His HR rates by month this year go (approx) 1 per 16 PA, 1 per 14 PA, 1 per 18 PA, 1 per 16 PA, 1 per 22 PA (panic!!), 1 per 12 PA (whew). Vlad has gone 1 per 15, 1 per 13, 1 per 11, 1 per 14, 1 per 22 (panic!), 1 per 11 (whew). (The BA example is better, I don't know why the author brought this one up.)
There's no such thing as a "consistent" MLB hitter -- nor would you likely want one on your team. Vlad has gone hitless in 25% of his games (there would be some walks) and another 10% when he contributed nothing but a single in 4+ PA. You'd have to get a WAR wizard but I wouldn't be surprised if it was something like 2/3 of his value comes in 1/3 of his games (and probably an even smaller percentage of his PAs).** Even for an all-emcompassing stat like Rbat and even for a great, "consistent" hitter like Miggy, his Rbat totals in his prime went 27, 43, 52, 37, 23, 40, 55, 64, 52, 66, 37, 40, 43 ... until the very end there, the smallest year-to-year change is 9 runs, nearly 1 win; the average over the first 10 differences is 15.
Now sure, Javy has been higher variance than Miggy -- it's not to deny that some hitters (and maybe hitting styles) will be less consistent than others. It's that the level of "random" variation in baseball is so high that the player-to-player differences aren't really telling you anything worthwhile. (That is Miggy is a consistently good hitter, but "consistent" in baseball is something like +/- 1.5 wins a year and that's before you get to stuff like injuries, playing time and aging) -- and that's just the hitting component. You have no choice but to accept the randomness of individual player production. If you want "consistency" the best you can do is stock your team with as many average-good-excellent hitters as you can such that hopefully, in any one game, 3 of them are producing like average Vlad and 3 of them are producing like average themselves to counteract the 3 that are producing like a slow Billy Hamilton.
** When you think about it, unless you are a big believer in productive outs and the intentionality of sacrifice flies, then all of a player's value as a hitter (not runner/fielder) must occur in the proportion of PAs where no outs are made -- i.e. the OBP tells you the proportion of PAs which contain all of the value. Then singles and walks are only worth so much. I get a WAG that Vlad has created about 43% of his value in 11% of his PAs (his XBH); the remainder in about 30% (singles and walks); and 59% of the time he's been hurting his team. That's the sort of math that helps produce Oafball.
I'd quibble with this a bit. There's Reached on Error, which has a higher liklihood when runners are on base. This means it should have a higher weighted value than an infield hit. I'd guess about .55 or .6 runs but I dont know what values the various systems are using.
In extreme case e.g. Clemente or Bert Campaneris (both 2%) that could be like 3.5 runs/season vs an average player.
ALso GiDP. For an extreme outlier like Ernie Lombardi (career leader) probably 22 or so more GIDP than average guy. Something like -10 runs/season for him. To be sure, GiDP is shown separately as Rdp not Rbat.
But another enjoyable to read and well done post.
I think when he's fielding well, he's a much better SS than Lindor.....or even when he's fielding like he has been this season.
I think he's got value as a 6/7 hitter in a league with a DH; Just nowhere close to the value he believes he has.
He's excellent at running the bases, he takes the extra base 62% of the time (Mays career 60%). He also is VG at bases taken (BT stat) and he's probably above average at Outs on the Basepaths (basically anytime you're not forced out). I'd definitely give him 2 runs for XB and 1 run for BT, not even awarding any value for OOB, he should value 4.5 runs on baserunning.
Maybe I am missing something, but I think we need to take another look at the Rbase stat.
On the other hand, we're talking about a guy who put up 6.4 and 6.6 bWAR in the last two pre-pandemic years, and 4.5 this season.
I have to say that I don't see anything particularly "enigmatic" about Baez. He's just a very streaky hitter, and otherwise he's an excellent all-around player. Nothing to really puzzle over there.
That only holds if you believe DRS. If you look at UZR, it.s 5.4, 4.4, and 3.6.
so while I think paying more than a half-billion to Lindor and Baez would be really stupid (partly because you can't maximize the value of playing two SSs at SS), I wouldn't be shocked.
Just a minor quibble, but those are still good WARs. That's basically Lou Whitaker.
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