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Wednesday, March 24, 2021

Every team’s strategy to cover innings in ‘21

Needless to say, there’s no consensus on what to do, how to approach this. There’s not even a consensus on whether it’s good or bad, really. It would seem like you wouldn’t want, say, Julio Urías to go from 55 innings last year to 180 this year. But is it helpful for someone like 36-year-old Max Scherzer, who had thrown more innings than any other pitcher since he joined Washington in 2015, to have had to make only 12 starts? Is there a bigger benefit in the rest?

It’s not hard to find pitchers who think so, like Tyler Glasnow. “I think if anything, from an overall workload, kind of backing off last year could almost be a positive,” he told The Athletic. Glasnow threw only 117 combined regular-season innings from 2019-20, but he’s being counted upon to be the ace of a Rays staff that’s deep, though without Blake Snell and Charlie Morton.

The point is: We don’t know. The only thing we know for sure is that this season will be unlike any other that’s come before it, and because this particular problem is so new—and because the 30 teams have very different levels of talent and depth anyway—there isn’t one established way to approach it. Some teams will start with six-man rotations. Others will use the “piggyback” method. Still others will just move on forward, business as usual. Some teams will have hard innings caps. Some will look more for changes in analytical data. Many will introduce the baseball version of the NBA’s “load management.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 10:05 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. JRVJ Posted: March 24, 2021 at 01:22 PM (#6009878)
This is actually a really interesting article, and it's going to be a very interesting issue in 2021, as all clubs will be affected by this somewhat.
   2. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 01:33 PM (#6009882)
There's got to be a lot of data on this from WW2. A bunch of guys didn't throw for 1-3 years, and then came back.
   3. McCoy Posted: March 24, 2021 at 01:50 PM (#6009888)
Well, most continued right on playing baseball
   4. bfan Posted: March 24, 2021 at 02:15 PM (#6009889)
unless you believe that rest hurts your ability to perform at the level you did before you rested, it strikes me as a glass half-empty thought process.

Let me put it this way: which person do you think that stands better able to throw 200 innings in year z (the last year in a 3 year sequence):
and
Person A, who threw 200 innings in year x, 80 innings in year y, or Person B, who throw 200 innings in year x and 200 innings in year y?

I would say Person A, every time, because he is better rested. To come up with Person Y, you have to believe that rest also equates with a loss of capacity.
   5. sunday silence (again) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 02:29 PM (#6009893)
obviously there is a relationship between rest and injury. It's a difficult question to answer definitively the way you put it because there are a number of other variables.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 02:34 PM (#6009894)
Well, most continued right on playing baseball

And most players continued right on throwing and training last year. If a guy spent the whole year drinking beer on his couch, that's a different problem.
   7. DL from MN Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:30 PM (#6009911)
A bunch of guys didn't throw for 1-3 years, and then came back.


I still think that's how Bob Feller got hurt
   8. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:33 PM (#6009912)
I still think that's how Bob Feller got hurt

I'd guess the 371 IP in '46 had more to do with it.
   9. McCoy Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:40 PM (#6009913)
Feller hurt his arm on a fluke injury. He slipped on the mound.
   10. McCoy Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:45 PM (#6009914)
Also Feller told Slapnicka that his arm was sore back when he was in high school and the Indians put him in the majors so they could supervise his training. Of course that could have been a lie but it doesn't seem the Fellers were the lying kind.
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:47 PM (#6009915)
If a guy spent the whole year drinking beer on his couch, that's a different problem.


Bartolo Colon begs to differ.
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: March 24, 2021 at 04:51 PM (#6009916)
There's almost a Catch-22 involved, both in the start-to-start and year-to-year time frames: can't let a guy pitch a lot unless he's already pitched a lot, but you can't let a guy who has already pitched a lot pitch a lot because of the workload.
   13. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: March 26, 2021 at 11:03 AM (#6010234)
Great article for a lot of reasons.

The section about the alternate sites speeding the development of prospects was interesting, and possibly an unfortunate harbinger of whats to come.

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