Former Red Sox pitcher Tim Wakefield has been diagnosed with brain cancer, according to former teammate Curt Schilling.
The diagnosis was announced Tuesday by Schilling on his podcast, “The Curt Schilling Baseball Show.”
In doing so, Schilling admitted he didn’t know if Wakefield wanted the diagnosis shared.
Schilling also revealed that Wakefield’s wife, Stacy, is “very sick with pancreatic cancer.”
Saying he’s seen the “power of prayer work,” Schilling put the Wakefields’ private lives on public display.
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1. JRVJ Posted: September 28, 2023 at 04:44 PM (#6142624)This does not surprise me, but admittedly, it's the type of thing that thousands, even millions of people would blurt out without a shred of respect for other people's privacy.
This is a step up from a few days ago.
RT'd by Curt....
Then, after calling people who noted what he RT'ed snowflakes who need to get over it...
Replace twitter.com in the URL with nitter.net and a Twitter thread can be viewed by anyone.
Like so.
He's a real piece of work
The Wannsee conference, apparently.
*Both* Wakefields? That is deeply sad. Wishing Tim and Stacy the best.
As for Schilling, I've never listened to The Curt Schilling Baseball Show, but why do I get the feeling less than half of it is actually about baseball?
And his tweets speak for themselves. As lousy a human being as he was a great pitcher.
Martyr-bating.
if you're in the public eye and you start to tell an audience, "I don't know if [so-and-sos] want this information shared," in typically-functioning brains a very loud alarm bell goes off.
I mean, usually it goes off when you even first think of sharing the info.
the second alarm is like a fail-safe to ensure you don't screw the pooch.
Curt appears to be devoid of any alarm bells at all.
Brain and Pancreas....that's like the worst of the worst. So, so sad that both are suffering through such an insanely difficult time. Wishing the best for both of them and their family.
Schilling is a do*che. Has been a do*che for a long time. Does anyone expect anything different?
I really wish the Angels were better. I need the escapism.
This kind of statement is always a strong indication that such person is a very big [___]ist.
he sounds like a middle skool kid wanting to be the first to tell everyone he knows what REEALLY went down between A and B (whether it true or not)
how can you be that old and be so - looking for word - unaware of the human being-hood of someone supposed to be your friend? outing him when he wanted to not be outed????? and his poor WIFE deserved to be outed WHY???? is she a closet Jew or Black or Hispanic or Asian or illegal or something? what's next - posting pics on insta of them sick with chemo and they hair all fallen out and looking 25 years older??? (i'd say tictok but that is run by Those Icky Chinese and you know how Those Peeple are)
i knew 2 people got pancreas cancer and they were dead by 6 months. of course they were not rich or White. and brain cancer is not exactly better thing to have
Sorry, but this doesn't hold water for me. He:
a) would have had some media training or experience, as a "celebrity" for thirty years or so.
b) was not a guest on another podcast in which he was interviewed and just answered off the cuff, but the host on his own show. So he has a very granular view of who's listening, and some idea what he's going to say. He would (well, should) have considered this in advance.
He said that thing into a microphone. With headphones on. It's his job. I choose not to believe that he did it as pub for his show, but the fact that I considered it tells you what I think of this person.
I know right? Its like the dumbest thing to say as some sort of response/excuse/apology.
WHy cant he just say "Ok jewish people seem to put a higher percentage of people in professional jobs and why is that? Is there a strong culture pressure that other groups dont have? or is that these people went through various social/economic pressures that forced them to adapt. Or both? Or is it that their numbers are so small and theres a selection bias here because most surveys only define them as jewish if they strongly identify as jewish.
And they are one of the smallest minority groups at least in this country. Do they trigger emotions simply because they are successful? American indians have slightly more people than jewish but no one is upset or jealous about them. Is that because Out of Sight of Mind?
You know something like a real conversation. Is that possible?
Most professionals wouldn't even try. There's no non-racist answer to this question.
the Jews are a tiny minority group that they always been a tiny minority group since Abraham's mother 5500 yrs ago and somehow they keep surviving and nobody been able to stamp them out
they trigger emotion because the majority culture at least HERE is either Christian or "christian-ist" and the Jews been holding out 2000 years against accepting the Christ as the Messiah. they won't sit down and they won't shut up and they don't and won't "go away"
there's only a couple million American Indians in the country and most of them have no voice in just about anything and nobody cares about them. most of them live in poverty so don't nobody care about a couple thousand people in some powerless group. and there are a couple thousand tribes and lots of them identify by tribe not ethnicity. besides, most of them are at least partially "christian". so why anyone would be jealous about them i don't get unless it is being upset that they got here first
for the record American Indians are said to be 2.9% of US pop and Jewish 2.5%. But again its hard to pin this down completely as for some groups the question is: Do you strongly identify as X?
Schilling is an idiot, Rogan is an idiot, and their defense of their ism is just utter crap.
then again it is like you said with "identify" - because there are tribal members who are mostly NOT Indian and theres people who are over 50% NA and do not identify as that
agree with you erik that people are not just 1 thing. we never have been. and some people are even part not "people" because they got some neanderthal DNA.
it i a terrible thing about humans that we can't seem to evolve beyond the insisting that we have to put ourselves in smaller and smaller groups of something that is supposed to be a "definition" when truth is us humans always be changing what exactly a Group is
I googled it the other day and that is what the google machine told me. (the 2.9% and 9 million something)
I bow to infallible google machine.
we can dump on him for that too
I'm just mocking those Schilling defenders here who claim that his exclusion from the Hall is just based on "politics," rather than the fact that he's just a horrible person, as he's these latest incidents tell us.
Take care my friends. God or whatever bless us all.
Now, I'm not so sure.
But as cfb says, he should be in the HOF.
Sigh.
Nobody is preventing him from saying whatever the hell he wants.
One potential consequence of saying vile #### is that exclusive platforms with powers of amplification are no longer available to you.
Why do people confuse the power to speak with the amplified power to be heard?
Kirby Puckett would probably not be in the Hall if the stuff about him had come out before his election. He was a borderline case as it was, and his good-guy reputation (at the time) helped get him in.
Schilling has a much more solid baseball case than Puckett, though he'd still be in the lower half (probably lower third) of HoF starting pitchers. But the character clause... it's not just this latest "slipup". There's also his 38 Studios/Rhode Island scam. You can't rip down a plaque once it's up. When it comes to his election, I'd rather err on the side of being able to fix it later.
Second - I *used to* feel that Schilling should go into the HoF regardless too... I don't remember which rung it was he hit on his way down the shitbag ladder, but I remember he hit a rung some time back that caused me to say "Nope, he's crossed a line". I vaguely recall it was some J6 nuttiness or maybe it was some Q crap, I don't recall.
He badly wants to be a martyr.
Steve Carlton also had some, er, interesting political opinions, but nobody's saying he shouldn't be in the Hall. There's a good case to keep Schilling out independent of his politics.
I think that request was directed at the writers. I don't think he's extended it to the Veteran's committee, though they didn't seem very interested in his candidacy either. That's not surprising, I suppose. They knew him.
I think Lefty was wise enough to keep them to himself until after he got enshrined. Before that, he rarely spoke at all.
I haven't thought this through. I don't know, myself.
As noted above, this Schilling's podcast. But that also means it wasn't some split second decision blurted out in an on-air interview. He made the statement, then went back for editing. Then made the decision to post the podcast.
He intentionally made the decision to make this public without any consideration of the Wakefield's feelings.
Next year will be a momentous year for the 1st amendment
Super unclear as to where this will land.
(And if it is, I want to make a speech too. Why is my speech being suppressed?)
- well 6 of on half a dozen t other
i don't guess you hear people of the other political persuasion pimping creeps on twitter whining about Those Jews
but i think all yall know that i don't agree that being a complete buttmunch or accused buttmunch should keep a ballplayer out of the Hall. and if schilling wants to get up there and repeat one of hitlers/jefferson davis' speeches word for word, well, then he can have a go at it
and all them old timers n the veterans committee i bet agree with every dammm word of it. they all right wingers too, just ain't made a post ballplaying career of putting foot in mouth all the way up to the butthole
So Judaism only comes in one flavor while Christianity comes in 3i? Or is it 57 Varieties?
Also: Catholics = 23%
And revealing a former teammate's cancer diagnosis is not a right wing/left wing thing. It's an ####### thing.
Schilling is obviously a hard right winger, more so now than when he played. But so is John Smoltz and any number of other guys who are in the Hall. Schilling's not being kept out because of his politics, as the Clappers and RMcs often complain. He's out because of #### like this.
Should it matter? I don't know. I'm not one of those guys who thinks that nothing matters except what he did on the playing field. Whether just being a spectacular ####### is enough to keep him out, I can't say, though I'm sure as hell not losing any sleep over his plight.
but yeah, he's not exactly a main HOF candidacy hill I'd be willing to die on.
First Amendment protects the government from going after him, and that's a good thing.
but speech, can and does, have other consequences and there's nothing wrong with that, either.
it's clear that Schilling does not have an "adult in the room" in terms of his podcast.
I did a weekly one for four years, and learned quickly that basically there are no "do-overs" because 'authenticity' apparently is so desired by podcast listeners (full disclosure: I still am not one). they don't want an airbrushed product. or something.
but if I ever stepped over an ethical line like this, that would be the rare snipping of the show before it posts (unless he does it live, which would be dumb on his part, but....)
Mr. S can say all he wants, I am a free to ignore, disparage or boycott (yes, money is speech) him. That's all speech, too.
Mr. S' various and sundry opinions for all I know (and I admit knowing very little) may be shared by a variety of people who do not feel the need to garner attention by posting them for all the world to enjoy (or ignore).
Tony S makes a very interesting point (at least to me) in describing S as a martyr. I am not even lousy amateur psychologist, but did S do this stuff while he was playing? I forget b/c I did not pay attention to him, other than he was on the diamond (where his performance was frequently spectacular and HOF worthy). Interesting also if the bloody sock were fake, but who can begrudge some gamesmanship? The Say Hey Kid, I think, wore smaller sized hats so he could run out from underneath him. Mr. S may miss the attention. I assume he will not read my piddling post here; it was not my goal to provide Mr. S with the attention he craves. See, I fell into Mr. S' masterfully laid trap.
Now, I don't believe that putting people in prison accomplishes much. Yet in this country when there is much debate about the shoplifting problem (although losses have been a constant % of revenue for years), putting Mr. S and his cohorts in prison for what happened in R.I. would not offend my imbalance sense of justice. But if you steal a few hundred buck prison, steal a few million, they name a building after you.
He was always opinionated. He was a big Bush supporter, which rankled some and pleased others. But he was just a generic conservative Republican, no different than hundreds of others ballplayers.
He also was capable of producing really interesting things (his 38 Blog was often really insightful).
After his gaming company went kaput, taking both a bunch $75 million from RI taxpayers and a bunch of Schilling's earnings, he really seemed to move into this hard right MAGA thing, while making particularly odious statements to troll the other side.
When you run a local newspaper and decide what things to print and not print you are correct. Twitter is where everyone in the world talks to one another about all topics. Is that different ? We will find out.
I have no idea how it will play out.
the question is why the #### (other than being a ####### Nqzi himself) he's doing following a raving anti-Semite. Look at Gage's feed and tell me I'm wrong.
To clarify, I didn't quite say he IS a martyr; it's more that he desperately wants to be perceived as one. And he is, by a certain crowd.
It's also about soothing his fragile ego. "They didn't reject me; I rejected them."
Being an arsehole (or being perceived as one) WILL damage your HoF candidacy. Happened with Dick Allen. Happened with Maury Wills. It's the main reason Gary Sheffield's roiding is held against him while David Ortiz' is handwaved away. If Lenny Dykstra had had a HoF-caliber career, he'd be running into the same roadblocks.
Blyleven, throughout most of his career, was perceived as self-serving and immature. Chuck Tanner nicknamed him "Cryleven". I mean, if you can't get along with Chuck Tanner...
He cleaned up his image and is well-liked and well-respected today. But if he had been Harold Baines or Dale Murphy while he was playing, he probably would have gotten his plaque a lot earlier than he did.
Really? How so? His 80 pitching WAR is comparable to Jenkins, Gibson, Mussina and Robin Roberts. And that wasn't amassed with a lot of hang around time. His 53 WAA is solidly ahead of all those guys. He's currently smack in-between Verlander and Kershaw, both of whom would sail in on the first ballot if they were hit by a bus tomorrow.
(I find myself morbidly curious as to whether any other MLB veterans died on the last day of the regular season.)
and sympathies to his wife
Should be in the Hall of Fame -- 200 wins as a knuckleballer looks increasingly like a record that will never be matched.
we sat in the RF bleachers, and the sun made the field mostly invisible. I told my pal that Wakefield would pitch a no-hitter.
I believe he got 20 outs before the first hit, but maybe it was only 17. still, a very fun day.
RIP and thanks for the memories.
R.I.P.
RIP Tim.
OTOH it might be the only way someone gets to 200 wins going forward — sticking around until their mid-40s as a knuckleballer.
But even though we talk about that path a lot, few guys have been able to do it and nobody has done it as well as Wakefield since (some guys, like Dickey, had a few great years). RIP.
Am I missing something? Were the Niekros not knuckleballers?
Which, either Wainwright or Cole might well go down in history as the last 200 game winner of any pitch selection, at the rate things are going. And the knuckleball is all but extinct now. R.A. Dickey was the last full time knuckleballer to have a substantial career, and he retired six years ago.
The closest I can think of, which is not that close, was WGN Cubs producer Arne Harris dying in 2001 shortly before the season finale against the Pirates. Since Arne was a frequently mentioned by Harry Caray during Cubs games throughout the 80s and 90s, the WGN telecast that day understandably talked as much about Arne as they did about the game.
I think I was at that game--it sounds like this one. But now that I check Tino Martinez got a single in the second inning. Even so, the circumstances sound really familiar.
It was just one of those 10 inning complete game wins where the starter allows a run in the tenth. Those happen all the time nowadays.
I suppose. It's odd phrasing. I wasn't trying to be a wise guy. I was wondering if it was some sort of catch, like the Niekros threw other pitches on occasion but Wakefield didn't. Or they didn't start throwing the knucklers until later in their careers and didn't win 200 games with the pitch.
https://www.mlb.com/prospects/twins/cory-lewis-675375
But knuckleballers have disappeared (hopefully temporarily) and 200 game winners are becoming very scarce (Rick Porcello was the last non-elite pitcher to be well on the trajectory, with 151 wins at age 30). I think Wake's achievement looks more special than it did in 2011, when he got there.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/irascible-lovable-tim-wakefield-behind-161031758.html
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