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Tuesday, February 11, 2020

Five Losers of MLB’s Offseason

Pitchers and catchers officially begin their preseason workouts this week, ending an eventful offseason where many teams improved their rosters heading into 2020.

For all the winners of the winters, though, there are the offseason losers. These are the clubs that failed to make the necessary roster upgrades, the free agents who miscalculated their values and the aging players in the twilight of their careers whose services are no longer desired. Below are the five biggest losers this winter.

So, any losers who you’d like to add to the list?


QLE Posted: February 11, 2020 at 01:02 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: astros, jacob degrom, nolan arenado, offseason, red sox, rob manfred, winners and losers

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   1. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: February 11, 2020 at 10:33 AM (#5923443)
Manfred let the Astros keep their dirty championships and didn't make Crane sell the team, so at worst that's a push for them.
   2. Do Not Touch Fancy Pants Socially Distanced Handle Posted: February 11, 2020 at 10:40 AM (#5923451)
The list isn't:
1. Red Sox
2. Red Sox
3. Red Sox
4. Red Sox
5. Red Sox

So it's wrong.
   3. Russlan thinks deGrom is da bomb Posted: February 11, 2020 at 10:41 AM (#5923452)
deGrom got 25 million for his last year of arbitration guaranteed, and then a guaranteed 3 years, 104 million.

That's not really a discount on salary, but it is in a bit of discount in years. That said, deGrom signed it two full seasons before free agency. That's a good deal for both sides.
   4. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: February 11, 2020 at 11:32 AM (#5923500)
Man I think Stearns got totally surprised this offseason when teams were willing to make long term offers to talent. Supposedly Mark A was willing to ok a deal for Rendon for a few years at $30 odd million but when the offer was 7 years that option was killed. And so Stearns started collecting guys who can kind of play third but maybe not really. Maybe the Cain trade and then singing Grandal for a year got him thinking that could be repeated?

Urias was meant to replace Arcia who has stalled development wise. Then he gets hurt. Still think he's the option at third base for 2020 because the signed guys look like trash
   5. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: February 11, 2020 at 11:48 AM (#5923513)
The Cubs watched themselves get worse while not even getting under the luxury tax. So they will likely be doing the same dance next offseason.
   6. Jeremy Renner App is Dead and I killed it Posted: February 11, 2020 at 11:56 AM (#5923516)
5--I have followed on the Cubs thread fans pointing out all the weirdness in this Cubs offseason. As a Brewer fan really glad the Cubs are not trying. But then the Brewers form of trying is signing players I think just to look busy.
   7. Due to the leadership of Zonk... Posted: February 11, 2020 at 02:05 PM (#5923598)
I'm fairly sure the Pirates will finish last in the NLC.... but honestly, any order 1 through 4 of the Cubs/Brewers/Cards/Reds(!) would not shock me. I suppose I would give the Cards the inside track.
   8. "RMc", the superbatsman Posted: February 11, 2020 at 02:53 PM (#5923611)
You’ll notice the Tigers are not on the “off-season losers” list. That’s because they’re busy losing the actual season.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: February 11, 2020 at 06:45 PM (#5923707)
My best guess on the Cubs is that they are close enough to the threshold that, if the season isn't going well, they'll hold a fire sale at the deadline and shift enough salary to get under. That could be as simple as a Bryant trade or shifting Quintana and Lester (with some $)

On deGrom ... meh. As noted, he signed the deal before 2019, back when we had our doubts that somebody like Strasburg could get 7/$245. (Kershaw had not opted out for example, "everybody" (certainly me) thought the Greinke deal looked terrible, the Price deal). And not FA until after this season so he'd have been entering FA at age 33. As is, deGrom is signed through age 35 while Cole and Strasburg are signed through age 37 so, if all went right in 2019 and 2020, he probably left 2/$70 on the table. That is a big price to pay for security but he's a pitcher. If he pulls it off, they would exercise their $32.5 M option then he could still get a Verlander 2/$70 type contract after age 36 so it could still all work out "fine." What I hadn't known is that a whopping $52 M of it is deferred ... and deferred Bonilla like for a whopping 15 years after the salary is earned. That probably shifts it to being a bargain for the Mets.
   10. cardsfanboy Posted: February 11, 2020 at 07:51 PM (#5923716)
I think this is a bit of a weird losers list, definitely an nontraditional list. I get it and all, but still I think if you are going to include the commissioner and a couple of players who took big contracts earlier in their career, you probably need to up the number to beyond the two teams who took a hit because of a scandal.

Traditionally these lists feature teams who are either competitive and did nothing to improve themselves in their division while the rest of the division did something or are borderline and who's actions more than likely hurt their future standings.

It's a highlight on some of the big changes within the league that maybe people might have missed. I honestly haven't followed much of baseball this past off season, just have been ehh about it, so knowing if the Indians have lost ground or not to the Twins, based upon either their bad decisions or lack of action would have been nice. Etc.... Etc... heck I can barely recognize the changes made in the NL Central... it feels like the Cubs haven't done crap, the Reds are clearly trying, and the Cardinals and Brewers seem content with margin moves...with the Pirates accepting their 5th place finish. (and there are probably a lot of moves I missed)
   11. Walt Davis Posted: February 12, 2020 at 12:26 AM (#5923757)
Well Cle traded one year plus option on Kluber to Tex for DeShields and a 22-year-old reliever (who is not K'ing 13/9). They signed Ceser Hernandez (1/$6) to play 2B.

The Twins exercised their option on Cruz, signed Donaldson, Odorizzi took the QO, they signed Pineda, Bailey, Hill, Clippard, Romo, Chacin (not a great bunch but quantity of occasional goodness).

The White Sox kept Abreu, signed Grandal, Keuchel, EE, Cishek and Gio, got Luis Robert to agree to a long-term contract, dumped Yolmer.

So Cle = "lack of action and certainly questionable decision"

Minn = "trying like heck to repeat"

Sox = "trying like heck to make a move as the kids mature"
   12. asinwreck Posted: February 12, 2020 at 12:58 PM (#5923872)
Regarding the Rockies, it's always good when spring training kicks off with the general manager issuing a "no comment" about his relationship with the team's best player.

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