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Wednesday, March 31, 2021

Five Nationals players will miss opening day after a COVID-19 positive

Despite a relatively healthy six weeks of spring training and a far smoother ride in testing for and tracing cases of COVID-19, the 2021 Major League Baseball season will begin as the last one did – with a Washington Nationals player sidelined by a positive test for their nationally televised opener.

Nationals general manager Mike Rizzo announced Wednesday that a player tested positive and will miss Thursday’s opener, as will four other players who must quarantine after they were identified as close contacts with the player.

Additionally, a staff member was also in the close contact group.

The positive tests comes after a spring in which just 33 players tested positive through both intake and monitoring testing; two players and two staff members among MLB’s 30 teams tested positive in the most recent report issued by MLB.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 31, 2021 at 04:43 PM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: March 31, 2021 at 05:15 PM (#6010892)
Why don't they say which players?
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 31, 2021 at 05:26 PM (#6010898)
I believe there are privacy concerns, the players have to give permission. Of course, there are ways of figuring it out, especially once the roster is announced.
   3. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 31, 2021 at 05:30 PM (#6010899)
Juan Soto tested positive at the start of last season, but was asymptomatic and thought he might have been a false positive. Bummer if he misses time again this season.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: March 31, 2021 at 05:37 PM (#6010902)
I believe there are privacy concerns, the players have to give permission. Of course, there are ways of figuring it out, especially once the roster is announced.
You are probably right, but it's a little farcical. We can't release the players' names on Wednesday, but we can on Thursday.
   5. Jay Seaver Posted: March 31, 2021 at 06:54 PM (#6010912)
Oh, it's silly, but it probably annoys the gamblers, so it's not all bad.

(Cue the response of how this will be great for MLB's gambling partners because of all the last-minute action that will take place when rosters are announced)
   6. Hank Gillette Posted: April 01, 2021 at 02:45 PM (#6011052)
And now, “late Thursday morning, the Nationals announced they would not play Thursday or Friday ‘out of an abundance of caution.’ ”


   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 01, 2021 at 02:57 PM (#6011058)
I have tickets for the Nationals Tuesday game (against the Braves). Hope they play, with something that looks like the regular lineup.
   8. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: April 01, 2021 at 03:04 PM (#6011060)
I'll be in attendance too, YC. Let's be sure to meet up before the first pitch.
   9. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: April 01, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6011078)
And so it (doesn't) begin.
   10. jingoist Posted: April 01, 2021 at 06:42 PM (#6011148)
I live 50 miles West of Nationals Park and it is snowing, flurries only, but it is 35 degrees and the winds are gusting 30+ mph.
Hopefully the make-up dates for the two delayed games will come with a more “fan friendly” weather.
   11. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 01, 2021 at 07:59 PM (#6011167)
Britt Ghiroli
@Britt_Ghiroli
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2h
Mike Rizzo says the Nationals have 2 additional players who are positive. There is another likely positive. In total, 3 confirmed positives, one more likely. All 4 are players.
Not looking too good for the weekend games.
   12. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 02, 2021 at 01:34 PM (#6011245)
Entire Mets @ Nationals Series now postponed. Nationals have 4 positive tests, and 5 players & 1 staff member impacted by contact tracing. Still no word on which players.
   13. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 02, 2021 at 02:45 PM (#6011265)
Some (relatively) good news:
Barry Svrluga
@barrysvrluga
Nationals totals: four positive tests for covid-19, all players. Six people -- including five players and one staff member -- are in quarantine because of contact tracing. They expect to play Monday vs. the Braves.
The question is who will be unavailable.
   14. depletion Posted: April 03, 2021 at 05:18 AM (#6011375)
This should be a forfeit. These idiots have had a year to get their act together. The Mets showed up ready to play.
   15. bunyon Posted: April 03, 2021 at 07:04 AM (#6011377)
Or bring up players to fill in the roster. If it were food poisoning or flu they wouldn’t get to just postpone.
   16. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 03, 2021 at 02:47 PM (#6011430)
There weren’t any forfeits imposed last season, and the same rules are in effect. Once it appears that the virus is no longer spreading among the players, the Nationals will be required to resume play, with whatever call-ups they need to replace those still out. Reportedly, there were no new positives after the last round of daily tests, so it looks like they’ll play Monday.
   17. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 03, 2021 at 03:51 PM (#6011436)
No system is foolproof. And as fans we want to see baseball, not forfeited games.
   18. Howie Menckel Posted: April 03, 2021 at 04:14 PM (#6011439)
I mentioned elsewhere that it would be fun if Thor and Carrasco are off the DL by the time this series finally is played.

if there is more than one option for makeup dates, the 'victim team' should get to choose the terms.
   19. Quaker Posted: April 03, 2021 at 05:15 PM (#6011443)
This should be a forfeit. These idiots have had a year to get their act together. The Mets showed up ready to play.


yeah, teams should definitely be punished harshly for catching a respiratory virus, you ####### idiot.
   20. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 03, 2021 at 06:41 PM (#6011452)
if there is more than one option for makeup dates, the 'victim team' should get to choose the terms.
MLB has rules & collective bargaining agreement provisions governing scheduling make-up games. That’s not one of them.
   21. depletion Posted: April 03, 2021 at 07:37 PM (#6011459)
19. Then put the able bodied players on the field. Every adult on earth knows that you have wear masks, wash your hands and avoid crowded places. They have 3 positives out of 25 people. They're the idiots, not me. And as bunyon says, bring up able bodied players. It isn't March of 2020 anymore.
   22. Quaker Posted: April 03, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6011461)
Yes, it's been a full year of this nonsense, and somehow you're stupid enough to think wearing a mask and avoiding crowds 1) guarantees you won't catch an endemic respiratory virus and 2) that getting sick is some kind of moral failing.



   23. gef the talking mongoose, peppery hostile Posted: April 03, 2021 at 08:00 PM (#6011462)
Don't you have a QAnon forum to check for possible talking -- more apropos, babbling -- points updates?
   24. base ball chick Posted: April 03, 2021 at 10:45 PM (#6011488)
Quaker Posted: April 03, 2021 at 07:51 PM (#6011461)
Yes, it's been a full year of this nonsense, and somehow you're stupid enough to think wearing a mask and avoiding crowds 1) guarantees you won't catch an endemic respiratory virus and 2) that getting sick is some kind of moral failing


- wearing a mask and avoiding crowds has decreased the respiratory flu virus from 50 MILLION cases a year to 1600. not getting sneezed/breathed/coughed on and wearing a mask does, in fact, help to prevent catching or giving respiratory viruses. there was almost no RSV virus this year. very few colds, almost no mono neither - all respiratory viruses. asthma problems fell like a rock because of almost no respiratory viruses


- yes, some people never get any symptoms of any respiratory virus no matter how much someone coughs/breathes/sneezes on them

- if you know that you are not supposed to be around anyone without a mask and you do not give the remotest eff if you catch it and give it to someone who may not be as fortunate as you are, well, yes that IS a moral failing

there is no guarantee of anything except people intentionally killing other people and no pregnant cis-men

there are ways to decrease probability of catching viruses and diseases. wearing a condom during sex does in fact help to protect against catching STD. it is not foolproof, but saying that someone's condom broke and they didn't catch something that time doesn't mean it is impossible for them to EVER catch or give some disease

you know this
   25. Quaker Posted: April 04, 2021 at 01:52 AM (#6011508)
wearing a mask and avoiding crowds has decreased the respiratory flu virus from 50 MILLION cases a year to 1600. not getting sneezed/breathed/coughed on and wearing a mask does, in fact, help to prevent catching or giving respiratory viruses. there was almost no RSV virus this year. very few colds, almost no mono neither - all respiratory viruses. asthma problems fell like a rock because of almost no respiratory viruses


Yes, all thanks to the magical powers of masks. How gullible do you have to be to believe that? Explain why the flu also disappeared in Sweden where they dont wear masks.




   26. Lassus Posted: April 04, 2021 at 06:29 AM (#6011513)
Go have surgery in a Newsmax operating room, dipshit.
   27. bunyon Posted: April 04, 2021 at 07:34 AM (#6011515)
I don’t believe getting sick is a moral failing. But teams should have a system in place to field a team. If it’s five guys, they should play with what they have.
   28. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 04, 2021 at 10:59 AM (#6011518)
I think the reason they postpone the games is that they don’t know how many players have it. If one guy has it, you test the rest. If it’s just him, you keep him and his close contacts isolated and play with the rest. But it sounds like they did the testing and two more guys tested positive. And they don’t know who those two guys may have transmitted it to. So they postpone a few games and put the team in quarantine to get it under control.
   29. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: April 04, 2021 at 11:05 AM (#6011520)
- wearing a mask and avoiding crowds has decreased the respiratory flu virus from 50 MILLION cases a year to 1600.

Since I think you got that 1600 number from me, I just want to clarify, since the 1600 and the 50 million are not an apples-to-apples comparison. 1600 is the number of people who tested positive for the flu in the CDC’s monitoring network of labs. Unlike with COVID, nobody tries to count every case and test result with the flu. They get reporting from a sample of labs and then estimate the number of total cases based on that. 50 million is an annual average that’s probably based on like ~500,000 positive tests, if I remember the numbers correctly. So 1600 positive tests this year probably means there have been a few hundred thousand flu cases. This doesn’t detract from your overall point, but I want you equipped with the correct information.
   30. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2021 at 12:51 PM (#6011536)
I think the reason they postpone the games is that they don’t know how many players have it. If one guy has it, you test the rest. If it’s just him, you keep him and his close contacts isolated and play with the rest. But it sounds like they did the testing and two more guys tested positive. And they don’t know who those two guys may have transmitted it to. So they postpone a few games and put the team in quarantine to get it under control.
That’s what they are doing, same as last year. Some seem to be missing that you have to wait long enough to ensure that the virus isn’t still spreading among those exposed before the players were isolated. No new positives on the tests reported yesterday, so it looks like the Nationals will play Monday if nothing changes. Kyle Schwarber, Jon Lester, Josh Harrison & Alex Avila are reportedly expected to be sidelined. That’s far from a worst case scenario.
   31. Misirlou cut his hair and moved to Rome Posted: April 04, 2021 at 01:50 PM (#6011544)
Kyle Schwarber, Jon Lester, Josh Harrison & Alex Avila are reportedly expected to be sidelined. That’s far from a worst case scenario.


Ex Cub factor strikes again.
   32. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2021 at 04:52 PM (#6011574)
Mark Zuckerman
@MarkZuckerman
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2h
Of the 10 players who either tested positive (4) or are in quarantine for being close contacts (6), Rizzo says the majority were going to be on the Opening Day roster but "several" were not.
Seems like the Nationals & MLB should be more explicit here. Professional gamblers have probably known what’s going on from the start, it’s the ordinary bettors that are still in the dark.
   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2021 at 08:13 PM (#6011592)
The bad news: Monday’s game has been postponed by MLB.

The good news: I now have tickets for Opening Day, assuming they play Tuesday.
   34. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: April 04, 2021 at 08:18 PM (#6011594)
Covid-19 pandemic: Sweden reverses face mask guidelines for public transport

Sweden's government is recommending wearing face masks on public transport during the rush hour, reversing its earlier Covid guidance.

It will also cut from the current eight to four per table the number of people sitting together in restaurants, and ban alcohol sales after 20:00.

PM Stefan Löfven unveiled the measures, which will take effect soon.

Elsewhere in Europe, Italy and Austria are the latest countries to be placed in lockdowns over the Christmas period.

Sweden, which has never imposed a full lockdown, has seen nearly 360,000 cases and 8,000 deaths - many more than its Scandinavian neighbours.
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2021 at 10:32 PM (#6011617)
Now some uncertainty about whether Monday’s game will be postponed, with no official announcement:
Reports Sunday evening indicated that Monday’s matchup between the Nationals and Braves had been postponed. But two people familiar with the matter said discussions about a postponement and the schedule ramifications were ongoing. Neither MLB nor the Nationals had made an official announcement by Sunday night.

“There’s been no protocol on an exact amount of full-team workouts you have to have before you can start a game,” Rizzo said earlier Sunday on a video conference call with reporters. “So in essence we could be told we’re playing tomorrow with a very, very short workout schedule before. This brings up a reminder that the position players haven’t worked out in a week and pitchers haven’t thrown any competitive pitches in that same period of time.
   36. base ball chick Posted: April 04, 2021 at 10:50 PM (#6011626)
there was some guy writing on fangraphs to complain about how some writer thinks we should all be trying to protect each other from the virus and the writer said he wasn't gonna live his life as if everything isn't "normal" because he is young and healthy and frankly he doesn't care if people get the virus through him and die

and i think he is one of the few honest ones i have heard give their reasons for refusing to social distance or wear masks
   37. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2021 at 10:57 PM (#6011630)
MLB makes it official: Nationals will begin the season Tuesday.
   38. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 06, 2021 at 01:11 PM (#6011999)
The [possibly] final word on the Nationals Opening Day roster:
Tuesday’s announcement was accompanied by a dizzying series of roster moves, which included placing catchers Yan Gomes and Alex Avila; left-handers Patrick Corbin, Brad Hand and Jon Lester; infielders Josh Harrison and Jordy Mercer; first baseman Josh Bell; and outfielder Kyle Schwarber on the Covid-19 related injured list. Right-hander Will Harris was also placed on the 10-day injured list after his recent procedure to address a blood clot.

In a sequence of corresponding roster moves, the Nats recalled catcher Tres Barrera; right-handers Ryne Harper and Kyle McGowin; infielders Carter Kieboom and Luis Garcia; lefty Sam Clay; and outfielder Yadiel Hernandez from their alternate training site. Washington also selected the contracts of veteran catcher Jonathan Lucroy and outfielder Cody Wilson. Wilson was specifically designated as a “replacement player,” indicating that he can be removed from the 40-man roster and sent back to the minors without clearing waivers as the affected Nationals players are cleared to return to the roster.
Not good, but could have been worse. Looks like Trea Turner was cleared today, maybe some more by tomorrow.

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