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Tuesday, November 09, 2021

For Yankees, Matt Olson is there for the taking

Somewhere in all that haze, though, is one near-certainty for the Yankees: Matt Olson, the All-Star first baseman for the Oakland Athletics, is there for the taking.

Given Oakland’s history of trading big names as they become more expensive in salary arbitration, Yankee fans have already been salivating over Olson’s hypothetical availability.

To that we can add reporting: Multiple league executives in touch with the A’s say that another reset is coming from the franchise, and Olson is one of several players who will likely be on the move.

The A’s decision to allow Bob Melvin to interview with other clubs served to confirm what the industry already expected about the direction. Melvin, one of the most respected managers in the game, had one year and $4 million remaining on his contract.

The A’s could have blocked his move to San Diego, but they allowed him to walk without any compensation—save for the ability to get his money off the books.

Olson, who turns 28 in March, has two arbitration years remaining before qualifying for free agency. He is due a raise from the $5 million he earned in 2021, a season in which he posted a .911 OPS and hit 39 home runs.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 11:28 AM | 25 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. bfan Posted: November 09, 2021 at 12:10 PM (#6052072)
Goodness, the author makes it sound as if Olson is an unprotected english maiden living on the western coast of the country, circa 900 a.d., while the yankees are vikings, intent on having their way with him.
   2. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 01:37 PM (#6052094)
Voit and Torres for Olson and Manaea?
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:04 PM (#6052101)

Voit and Torres for Olson and Manaea?


There is a meme going around about how Yankees fans are asking for everyone's top player in exchange for the three players they don't want anymore - Luke Voit, Gleyber Torres, and Clint Frazier.

So yea, the A's are going to want actual prospects, not guys the Yanks don't want.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:14 PM (#6052108)
I would assume Voit and Torres have substantial trade value, right? (Regardless of the Yankees desire to upgrade)
   5. Howie Menckel Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:18 PM (#6052111)
Frazier has been offered by Yankees fans as trade bait for years - sometimes to comic effect.

I mean, if the guy is/was so good and cheap, why trade him?
   6. Jose is Absurdly Correct but not Helpful Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:21 PM (#6052113)
I doubt it, at least to the degree the Yankees would want to get something in return. Voit had an awful year obviously both in performance and health so I suspect teams would see him as a question mark. Torres is trickier I think. There is probably a deal to be worked for Voit for some other guy who had a down year out there. Torres though...if I'm the Yankees I'm afraid I'm dealing a way a perennial All Star but at the same time if I'm a team making a trade for Torres I see a guy who hasn't hit since 2019 and yeah 2020 was a mess for everyone but are you giving up an elite package for that? I wouldn't. But I wouldn't trade him for less if I was the Yankees either.
   7. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:22 PM (#6052115)
Voit is like a 2-3 WAR player with injury red flags, who will make $5-6M next year and is going into his 30s. Torres hasn't been good at all the last two years and will make $5-6M next year. So I don't know about "substantial". But the A's certainly aren't interested in adding guys that make $10M+ next year.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:27 PM (#6052119)
The way this usually seems to go is the Yankees will get Olson for a bunch of 18-19 year old kids that aren't highly ranked, everything thinks the A's got ripped off, and 1 or 2 of those guys go on to become pretty good regulars.
   9. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:29 PM (#6052120)
   10. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:33 PM (#6052122)
Voit is like a 2-3 WAR player with injury red flags, who will make $5-6M next year and is going into his 30s. Torres hasn't been good at all the last two years and will make $5-6M next year. So I don't know about "substantial". But the A's certainly aren't interested in adding guys that make $10M+ next year.
Well, neither of those guys make $10m+ so I don't know how that is relevant. Voit has 3 years of control left, but I mostly included him in the deal because I don't think the Yankees trade for Olson unless they also trade away Voit.

Let's make it a 3-teamer! Voit to the Guardians, who send prospects to the A's.
   11. Walt Davis Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:48 PM (#6052126)
Yep, Torres to the A's makes no sense for the A's unless the Yanks are throwing in cash too. Even then they'll want young players.

Sheesh, Voit got nearly $5 M last year in his first (super-2) arb year. That's more than Gleyber got (also super-2). Neither will bet much of a raise for 2022, Gleyber probably the slightly bigger one since he at least played nearly the full season. MLBTR projects Voit $5.4 and Gleyber $5.9.

Besides, what the Yanks need most is a CF. Laureano should be about 2/3 through his suspension and is newly arb eligible, I'm sure the A's would be happy to make him somebody else's concern.
   12. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:49 PM (#6052128)
The A's aren't going to trade arb-eligible Olsen for arb-eligible Voit.
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:57 PM (#6052131)
The A's aren't going to trade arb-eligible Olsen for arb-eligible Voit.
Correct. He was just a throw-in for my hastily constructed trade idea. But he is cheaper and has more years left of team control, and those are things the A's like.
   14. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 09, 2021 at 02:58 PM (#6052132)
It’s a little early to give up on Torres. Don’t see the Yankees doing that.
   15. Tom Nawrocki Posted: November 09, 2021 at 03:13 PM (#6052138)
Yep, Torres to the A's makes no sense for the A's unless the Yanks are throwing in cash too. Even then they'll want young players.


Gleyber Torres IS a young player. He's the same age within a couple of days of two of the Rookie of the Year finalists, and a year younger than another one.
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 03:20 PM (#6052139)
Yep, Torres to the A's makes no sense for the A's unless the Yanks are throwing in cash too. Even then they'll want young players.

Gleyber Torres IS a young player. He's the same age within a couple of days of two of the Rookie of the Year finalists, and a year younger than another one.
I was also confused by Walt's comment. I was under the impression that the A's are weak in the middle infield, but I admit I don't have great knowledge about their system so I might be overlooking someone.
   17. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: November 09, 2021 at 03:37 PM (#6052142)
Well, neither of those guys make $10m+ so I don't know how that is relevant.


$10M+ combined for the pair. The A's are quite obviously looking to cut costs this winter.

Gleyber Torres IS a young player.


Young in terms of controllable years. The A's aren't going to want a guy that is already arb-eligible that can be a FA in 3 seasons.
   18. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 03:42 PM (#6052147)
OK, I see what you mean now about the $10m. I guess we don't know if the A's want to cut costs by getting cheaper players, or by getting only league-minimum players.

Edit:
The A's aren't going to want a guy that is already arb-eligible that can be a FA in 3 seasons.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but why wouldn't they want that? 3 seasons before free agency is a decent amount of team control. Maybe they don't want to do a full tear-down.
   19. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: November 09, 2021 at 03:57 PM (#6052152)
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   20. Nasty Nate Posted: November 09, 2021 at 04:01 PM (#6052153)
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   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: November 09, 2021 at 05:52 PM (#6052164)
It’s a little early to give up on Torres. Don’t see the Yankees doing that.

Torres is all of 24. They'd be crazy to dump him as if he were 34. Once he's returned to his natural position at 2B it wouldn't surprise me at all to see a rebound in his hitting.
   22. TJ Posted: November 09, 2021 at 08:17 PM (#6052185)
Yeah, the A’s could trade Olson to the Yankees for Gleybar and some guys the Yanks don’t want. Or they could ship Olson to, say, the Padres for pre-arb Jake Cronenworth and a bunch of good prospects…
   23. The Honorable Ardo Posted: November 09, 2021 at 09:26 PM (#6052197)
Who knows what Torres will become if he stays in the Bronx. It's a certainty, though, that if he's traded to Oakland, he'll become the next Marcus Semien.
   24. base ball chick Posted: November 10, 2021 at 11:48 AM (#6052241)
seems i remember like every year how yankees fans think that some other team is gonna trade them a really good player for a couple of guys (expensive for their numbers) that the yanks no longer want.

IF oakland want to dump olsen just because of salary, they are not gonna want to take on MORE salary for 3 players who are gonna be even more expensive next year. cmon
   25. Nasty Nate Posted: November 10, 2021 at 11:55 AM (#6052243)
First of all, I am not a Yankees fan! And my off-the-cuff idea was for 2 players who will make LESS salary than the outgoing 2.

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