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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Saturday, March 03, 2007Forbes: Best General Managers In SportsForbes.com’s first-ever proprietary look at GMs in the NFL, NBA, NHL and MLB grades each GM on two yardsticks. First, there’s the performance (regular season winning percentage and postseason wins) during the GM’s tenure versus the performance of his predecessor. Second, there’s the GM’s relative (to the league median) payroll compared with his predecessor’s relative payroll. And the NBA’s Minnesota Timberwolves GM Kevin McHale tops our list. Only the 98 current GMs with at least three years of service were reviewed. In terms of enhancing the value of a sports franchise, winning is more important than payroll. So we double-weight winning percentage in our scoring to discount GMs (like Mark Shapiro of the Cleveland Indians) who successfully cut costs but in so doing damaged their franchise. Our rankings will surely raise some eyebrows. |
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1. TFTIO was writing C programs in the '90s Posted: March 03, 2007 at 06:32 PM (#2306238)In Pictures: Sports' Hottest General Managers
Doesn't the mere thought of what might actually be behind that link scare people?
Doesn't the mere thought of what might actually be behind that link scare people?
look at the photo of billy beane.
Hahahaha! Way to go, fact-checkers!
The only smart thing he's done in years is hire Parcells, and he ruined that by not letting Parcells choose his players and by undermining him in terms of dealing with players.
It also doesn't hurt if team winning percentages in your sport range .200 and .800 (NBA, NFL), rather than .400 and .600 (MLB). Thus, we get B. Beane as the best MLB GM, but only #26 overall.
It works the other way, too, of course. Notice which sports are at both the top and bottom of the Forbes list.
Which may explain why baseball, where records cluster more around .500, has almost all its representatives clustered between 26th and 70th on the list. Littlefield and Bavasi make a bold move toward the bottom, however :)
The baseball rankings seem almost like you could have achieved them throwing blind at a dartboard, though. Kenny Williams and Doug Melvin are near the bottom. Brian Sabean and Pat Gillick are relatively high. Why not just the other way around? No reason, really, for or against. This is one of the problems with lists that crunch a couple of arbitrary numbers and then present the results as if they meant anything (mixing four kinds of apples and oranges at the same time).
And I like any poll that puts Theo no better than 30. He might be the very definition of overrated.
Or being the GM of a new franchise. C'mon, Don Waddell is 6 on the list, with a team that never made the playoffs in its 6 years in the NHL.
(the funny thing about him is that last year, he guaranteed a spot in the playoff for the Thrashers. Which didn't happen. So, this year, he actually made three dreadfull moves to try to put his team in the playoffs).
And the two GMs who made the WS last year are behind Elgin Baylor.
Not on baseball, but how is Pioli only 20?
Primey.
Agreed. There is not an owner in all of professional sports who would suggest Kevin McHale is a better GM than, say, John Schuerholz or Scott Pioli.
Two immediate problems they have...
1. Focusing on winning improvement is a skewed test
2. Effectively ignoring the playoffs is quite far from the real world way that GMs are evaluated.
Also to note are that: not all playoffs are created equally. Getting into the baseball playoffs is different than hockey or basketball. You can slip into the playoffs year in and year out in these sports and lose every year and not really be serious. This counts for football too. Did they account for payroll in terms of league average? I hope so, because otherwise it wouldn't make sense. And lumping in all the sports together doesn't help it either.
A structural problem that has been mentioned is that GMs actually inherit talent from their predecessors, which means that GMs who take over bad teams often get a double bonus, since those teams also are likely to have more prospects/higher draft picks going forward.
58. Jim Hendry
61. Brian Cashman
And what is that love for Brian Sabean? If he didn't have BB, he would have been fired 5 years ago.
The only smart thing he's done in years is hire Parcells, and he ruined that by not letting Parcells choose his players and by undermining him in terms of dealing with players.
Do you really think Parcell is a good GM? I believe both the Jets and the Patriots were old and had little top shelf talent when he left as GM.
His record without Belicek on his staff is also sub-.500 with 1 playoff win.
I think it is much safer to separate the coaching and GM jobs, though Jimmy Johnson seem to handle it well. He seemed to more of a CEO type head coach who let his assistants handle the bulk of the coaching within his framework.
You'd expect that someone who writes for a living might know better.
Yes. And then, after the sanctions had taken hold, and after Smith's deal with Detroit was over, McHale signed him again.
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