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Sunday, August 14, 2022

Forecasting The 2022-23 Qualifying Offers: Position Players - MLB Trade Rumors

I really hoped an agreement on the International Draft would happen and the qualifying offers system would end.

jimfurtado Posted: August 14, 2022 at 10:01 AM | 12 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: August 14, 2022 at 03:38 PM (#6091595)
Have the Mets made any offers to Nimmo?
   2. cHiEf iMpaCt oFfiCEr JE Posted: August 14, 2022 at 04:29 PM (#6091624)
Puma last week:
Brandon Nimmo recently told The Post he was informed during the All-Star break the Mets want him beyond this season. Nimmo, set to hit free agency, hired Scott Boras as his agent last winter. It’s easy to envision a long-term deal for the outfielder that averages at least $20 million annually.
   3. villageidiom Posted: August 14, 2022 at 08:13 PM (#6091655)
I assume J.D. Martinez is not getting a QO. Bloom will want to give up on him a year too early rather than a year too late, and if Casas is ready then I think Hosmer slides into the DH spot. Or they just use the DH spot as many teams have, rotating other players through to give them a day off from the field. In that sense Christian Arroyo - assuming he's back - might effectively be the DH.
   4. TVerik - Dr. Velocity Posted: August 15, 2022 at 01:21 AM (#6091679)
Has Bloom let any player go too early rather than too late?

Why do you think this, vi?
   5. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: August 15, 2022 at 07:37 AM (#6091686)
then I think Hosmer slides into the DH spot.


Why would you ever want the corpse of Eric Hosmer taking at bats away from pretty much anybody if he's not even playing a shitty 1B? I think your 2nd option is much more viable.
   6. villageidiom Posted: August 15, 2022 at 11:31 AM (#6091701)
Has Bloom let any player go too early rather than too late?

Why do you think this, vi?
Too early: Hunter Renfroe, Andrew Benintendi, Adam Ottavino, Kyle Schwarber, Michael Chavis
Perfect timing: JBJ (the first time), Heath Hembree, Brandon Workman (the first time)
Too late: ...nobody? At least nobody that wasn't already too late by the time Bloom took over.

I think some would argue JBJ the second time was too late, but they acquired him too late.

You can slot Christian Vazquez in whichever of the first two categories you prefer. And obviously in the "too early" category is Mookie Betts.

Why would you ever want the corpse of Eric Hosmer taking at bats away from pretty much anybody if he's not even playing a shitty 1B? I think your 2nd option is much more viable.
The QO this year will I assume be around $18 million. JD Martinez is now basically a 1-WAR DH with no power, entering his age-35 season. Eric Hosmer can do at least that, younger, with the ability to play 1B and with better baserunning, for the minimum salary. If they can get Martinez back for something under $10 million for 1 year then maybe they will, but when Eric Hosmer is a potential improvement on the role that's already a bad sign for the incumbent.
   7. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: August 15, 2022 at 12:31 PM (#6091713)
The QO this year will I assume be around $18 million. JD Martinez is now basically a 1-WAR DH with no power, entering his age-35 season. Eric Hosmer can do at least that, younger, with the ability to play 1B and with better baserunning, for the minimum salary. If they can get Martinez back for something under $10 million for 1 year then maybe they will, but when Eric Hosmer is a potential improvement on the role that's already a bad sign for the incumbent.


Oh, I totally agree with you on not QO'ing JD, I just think using Hosmer as a DH is a complete waste. I typically like to actually have a guy who can hit there, I think rotating injured guys through the slot is silly (just give them the day off!), but a low-ceiling, old, declining hitter is the worst. I would much rather keep hoping with Dalbec or Franchy - at least there's a shot they figure it out and put up a .750-.800 OPS. Hosmer is not going to do that, so why take away opportunities from others?
   8. Walt Davis Posted: August 15, 2022 at 03:37 PM (#6091739)
Has Bloom let any player go too early rather than too late?

Paging Mr Betts, Mr Mookie Betts, to the white courtesy phone please.
   9. villageidiom Posted: August 15, 2022 at 05:26 PM (#6091760)
I think rotating injured guys through the slot is silly (just give them the day off!),
The intent I had was that they would rotate healthy players through to give them a break here and there, and hopefully keep them from getting injured.

Of course to do that they'd need to have healthy players, and if this scheme involves Christian Arroyo getting playing time then they can run it for like a week before they don't have enough healthy players to make it work.
   10. Baldrick Posted: August 15, 2022 at 05:35 PM (#6091761)
I understand that economics is a critical part of how the gams are won and lost, but good god it's hard to think of something that sounds less interesting to read than 'Forecasting The 2022-23 Qualifying Offers: Position Players - MLB Trade Rumors.'

Been hanging out in these parts for two decades now and I increasingly wonder if baseball might be better for the non-thinking fan.
   11. ReggieThomasLives Posted: August 15, 2022 at 05:50 PM (#6091762)
If WAR was all that counted in the standings these discussions would be more interesting, but that vagaries of randomness dull the impact of cost appropriate team building.
   12. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 15, 2022 at 06:31 PM (#6091769)
I would much rather keep hoping with Dalbec or Franchy - at least there's a shot they figure it out and put up a .750-.800 OPS.


Neither of those 2 players will ever figure that out. Neither has a decent enough command of the strike zone to be consistently decent. It's wishcasting, time to move on.

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