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Thursday, March 25, 2021

Gio Gonzalez announces retirement

Gio Gonzalez’s tenure with his hometown Miami Marlins lasted less than one month. The two-time MLB All-Star announced Thursday on Instagram that his playing career is over:

Since the age of 4, my father and my mother introduced me and my younger brother to this sport called baseball, 31 years later, still played baseball, so many people I wanna thank from the bottom of my heart starting with the White Sox who took a chance with me, a young kid from HIALEAH, FL! The Oakland A’s who gave me my first career win, who showed me unconditionally love from the clubhouse, the staff who worked at the stadium and most important the incredible fans that stood by us in our good and bad seasons,the reporters who took the time to get to know me! THANK YOU!

Washington nationals, what an incredible 7 years you gave me and my family, because of you I will forever be thankful, you helped me become the man/ father I am today, the most unbelievable love I could ever ask for! So happy for the World Series title your team and fans WELL DESERVED! So many incredible people I have met in my time there, that helped with me and my family, THANK YOU!

Milwaukee, OMG MILWAUKEE, in a year and some change, TWO PLAYoff runs, with guys till this day I consider my brothers, btw best travel in baseball hands down!

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2021 at 03:44 PM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Walt Davis Posted: March 25, 2021 at 04:34 PM (#6010145)
A nice, durable peak -- 2010-18: 1700 IP, 1600 K, 117 ERA+, 120-86, 30 WAR, 16 WAA (FIP and ERA almost exactly match so I assume fWAR is about the same). The 130 innings before that were pretty useless as they often are for young pitchers and now just a smidgen of innings after.

I can't find confirmation but I assume this is injury-related. In 2019, he got off to a great start, missed two months, but then pitched pretty well when he came back. Then he went to the White Sox for 2020, missed a bit of time then got pulled from his final start with shoulder soreness. The White Sox declined his option, he doesn't seem to have thrown well in his workouts, got a shot with the Marlins anyway, got absolutely lit up in his spring debut the other day (1 out, 8 hits, 7 runs). I'll guess that shoulder injury was fairly serious. Anyway, 2019 Gio was a guy who was still a solid pitcher and only turning 34. Now, a season later, he's done.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2021 at 04:36 PM (#6010147)
I seem to remember some buzz early in his career that he was a bit of a problem to deal with, and that's part of why he was traded so much. From all I can tell, he turned out to be an exemplary teammate and a stand up guy off the field.
   3. McCoy Posted: March 25, 2021 at 04:37 PM (#6010148)
Good lord! I still remember the BTF thread about him quitting on his high school team.
   4. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 25, 2021 at 05:13 PM (#6010159)
I'm not sure about the early reports about his behaviour, but that's nice insta post. He's thanked every team, players, all the fans, the staff etc and it seems genuine.

As Walt said, for 8 years there he was pretty darn solid, a really nice career.
   5. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2021 at 05:24 PM (#6010162)
I'm not sure about the early reports about his behaviour,


I didn't recall anything, but it seems like most of his high school issues were about his mom complaining about his brother's lack of playing time.
   6. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: March 25, 2021 at 06:49 PM (#6010174)
A class act and a nice guy, but boy was he frustrating to watch. a committed nibbler who fell apart under every bright light.
   7. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: March 25, 2021 at 06:54 PM (#6010175)
#6 - For some reason, I opted to read that description as something on a random tombstone.
   8. A triple short of the cycle Posted: March 25, 2021 at 08:57 PM (#6010187)
Really liked Gio with the A's. He had some moxie. Which was nice since the A's traded their best and most popular player for him. Not all those trades panned out as well.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2021 at 09:25 PM (#6010189)
a committed nibbler who fell apart under every bright light.

That's not fair. You don't get to 30 WAR and 13 WAA by being a choker.
   10. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: March 25, 2021 at 09:50 PM (#6010191)
Pretty dreadful postseason performances, though: 8 starts, 4.91 ERA, and never made it even once to the 6th inning.
   11. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2021 at 10:28 PM (#6010195)
Pretty dreadful postseason performances, though: 8 starts, 4.91 ERA, and never made it even once to the 6th inning.

His career ERA is 3.70. 4.91 is far from dreadful against better competition. In any case, it's silly to judge a 2000 IP career on 30 IP, be they awful or excellent.
   12. Dr. Pooks Posted: March 26, 2021 at 09:09 AM (#6010213)
Two of the 4 players traded by the Nationals for Gonzalez to Oakland in 2011, AJ Cole (29) and Tommy Milone (34), are now 10 years later both currently in Dunedin for the Jays as NRIs trying to win roster spots in a crowded but mediocre rotation and pen.
   13. DL from MN Posted: March 26, 2021 at 09:32 AM (#6010215)
I thought as a lefty he might be able to move to the bullpen and contribute a couple more seasons. Good career, nonetheless.
   14. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: March 26, 2021 at 11:04 AM (#6010235)
That's not fair. You don't get to 30 WAR and 13 WAA by being a choker.


It certainly isn't, but that was the emotional experience of watching him! There are some players on your favorite team that you know intellectually are good and valuable and the team is better for having them, but are so frustrating to watch that you are glad when they move on. Gio was such a player. (super nice guy though).

I felt a bit of the same way about Ian Desmond. He always seemed to be hitting solo home runs and then striking out with runners on. In both cases the Nats moved on at the right time ( I guess with perfect clarity you trade Gio after the 2017 season, but it didn't make sense at the time).
   15. Karl from NY Posted: March 26, 2021 at 02:57 PM (#6010290)
a committed nibbler who fell apart under every bright light.

That's not fair. You don't get to 30 WAR and 13 WAA by being a choker.


Yeah. This is Armando Benitez Syndrome: he always fails in big spots because a big spot is defined as whenever he fails.
   16. The importance of being Ernest Riles Posted: March 29, 2021 at 11:42 AM (#6010553)
At his peak with the A's he was a ton of fun to watch. I'll always hold a soft spot for him.

But there was always uncertainty on which pitcher would show up. Good Gio was great, Bad Gio was absolutely maddening and frustrating. I never thought of him as a choker, as the possibility of Bad Gio was always a known risk whether it was the regular or post season.

I'd be curious to see if my memory of Good/Bad Gio is supported by a bimodal distribution in the quality of this starts.
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: March 29, 2021 at 11:47 AM (#6010555)
Baseball HQ has a DOM/DIS stat that tries to address that - dominant vs disaster.
   18. Bourbon Samurai stays in the fight Posted: March 29, 2021 at 03:33 PM (#6010588)
Yeah. This is Armando Benitez Syndrome: he always fails in big spots because a big spot is defined as whenever he fails.


I don't think you need to twist the record to show Gio failing in big spots.

Nats record in elimination playoff games started by Gio: 0-3. Everybody else: 8-1

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