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Wednesday, March 17, 2021

GQ: Mookie Betts Can’t Stop Getting Better

Early on Betts determined that he would turn down whatever contract extension he was offered in order to make it to free agency, where he’d be able to earn something closer to his true market value. He just as soon would have re-signed in Boston, he says—but only if they made the right offer.

Just like learning to lay off outer-half curveballs, turning down big dollars took practice. “The very first contract extension I ever saw was super hard to turn down,” he says. “It was like $90 million or something. They slid over the sheet of paper, and I saw the number, and I was like, ‘Oh, my gosh.’ I had never seen that before, so that was hard to turn down. But once you can figure out how to say no, then it becomes easy as anything. Saying no the first time is the hardest thing.”

It got easier—but also stranger. He couldn’t wrap his head around asking for anything less than what he knew he deserved. “I don’t care if you’re working at Waffle House or for the Red Sox or for the Dodgers,” he says. “You should just get paid what you’re worth.” Ultimately the Red Sox decided they’d rather trade Betts than lose him to free agency, shipping him to Los Angeles. Dodgers executive Friedman concedes the obvious. “It’s not often that a player of his caliber is available via trade,” he says. Dave Roberts, the team’s manager, is more blunt: “My first reaction was ‘I can’t believe it’s really going to happen.’ ”

Betts thought he’d be with the Sox for life, and says he loved his time there—he and Bri had begun looking at new houses before the trade. But he isn’t sentimental about the bonds between player and team. The Red Sox “didn’t owe me anything; I didn’t owe them anything. The city didn’t owe me anything; I didn’t owe the city anything. We did what we were supposed to do. And at that point,” he says, “it’s a business.” The Sox couldn’t—or just wouldn’t—pay him what he knew he was worth. So he wound up with a team that could.

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   1. jmurph Posted: March 17, 2021 at 02:36 PM (#6008961)
My understanding is Payroll Flexibility is going to be the subject of next month's cover story, so this is fine, I feel nothing.
   2. Rally Posted: March 17, 2021 at 02:38 PM (#6008963)
Dustin Pedroia is one who took the team friendly extensions. Even that hasn’t worked out great for the team, from 18-21 he’ll have made over 50 million despite not being healthy enough to contribute in any of those seasons. Red Sox got a huge bargain on the years up to 2017 though.

If Pedroia had gone year to year, he would have hit the FA market as a 28 year old, coming off a 5 win 2012 season. He would have had 33 WAR in his first 6 full seasons. Compare him to Cano, a free agent after his age 30 season, Cano also had 33 WAR in his last 6 at the time he hit the market. How close could Dustin have come to that 240 million deal? He wasn’t as good in his walk year, but overall similar production and he was younger.

Cano will earn 214 million before his career is done, Pedroia 127.

   3. Jay Seaver Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:08 PM (#6008967)
Betts thought he’d be with the Sox for life, and says he loved his time there—he and Bri had begun looking at new houses before the trade.


(Sits back, waits for all the folks who said Mookie would never re-sign with the team to backtrack. It'll probably be a while.)
   4. Scott Ross Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:15 PM (#6008969)
(Sits back, waits for all the folks who said Mookie would never re-sign with the team to backtrack. It'll probably be a while.)


Nah, they'll just tell you that's what he has to say so as not to alienate anyone.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:41 PM (#6008971)
What, he's bowling over 300 now?

It was like $90 million or something

Shoulda gone $100 M the first time you twits.
   6. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:44 PM (#6008972)
(Sits back, waits for all the folks who said Mookie would never re-sign with the team to backtrack. It'll probably be a while.)
Mookie would never have re-signed with Boston for the amount they were willing to pay him. That's always been true, and IIRC that's what those folks were saying. No backtracking needed.

That aside, the above quote is almost the only part of the lengthy article that talks about negotiations with Boston. The whole article is about Betts, and he is awesome, so the article is great. If the discussion here is focused on the given excerpt in order to air the same grievances that have dominated every Betts thread for the last year, get over yourselves. Take it to Twitter, where petulance never sleeps. Or, y'know, read TFA and revel in more Mookie stuff.
   7. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:52 PM (#6008974)
And while Betts's chatter may have seemed to some like a kind of dereliction of duty—a violation of some unwritten baseball code of the sort championed by the crusty ex-players who populate broadcast booths—he says distractions like that are basically the only way to stay sane. “It's impossible to lock in for four hours, three and a half hours, however long our game is,” he says. “The more I can let my mind wander, the more I can bring it back and focus [on] each pitch, each play, each inning. If you tell me to lock in the whole time, then I'm going to be awful. I just can't do it.” Like his fellow millennials, the sport's most exciting player has determined that baseball is best experienced while also sort of doing something else.
   8. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:53 PM (#6008975)
Does the article discuss whether the pandemic affected the negotiations? I thought it was an amazingly good deal for Mookie given all the uncertainty but, in pre-covid terms and with all the deferments, it doesn't seem like a huge deal. It does had an interesting clause that, if he's traded, the salary is no longer deferred. Anyway, even by MLB's usually trivial NPV calculations, the value is reduced from $365 to $306. Of course we need to compare that to MLB NPV's of other contracts, not their headline numbers.

Note, barring that trade, the most money Mookie is actually paid in any calendar year looks to be $24 M. Philosophically the exact opposite of Bauer's very weird deal.
   9. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:54 PM (#6008976)
By now he's posted enough perfect 300 games that he's stopped keeping count. And anyway, he says, perfect games are “cool to people that don't bowl.” True bowlers just want to win, and so for the past few winters Mookie Betts has entered a run of local bowling tournaments in Texas, where a bunch of pro bowlers tune up ahead of their season. ... When he started competing in tournaments, the aim was simply to not come in last. Now it's to win money, which he managed to do on the Texas run. The $365 million man took home some cash — $300, he thinks — at one tournament. With sincerity, he calls it the best few hundred dollars he ever made. “It's not really about the money. Obviously it's more just to say I did it,” Betts tells me. “It's hard as hell to cash in a tournament like that. With professionals. I was proud of myself, for sure.”
   10. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:56 PM (#6008977)
He struggled for his first six weeks in Greenville, South Carolina. “I was just trash,” he says. The line between success and failure in baseball can be maddeningly thin, but he knew which side he was on. “That was the first time in my life, really, that I failed miserably.” It hurt. Doubt crept in. A career in baseball could mean years struggling to climb the minor-league ladder. Monthslong stretches between home runs. He started to consider alternatives. “I know I can be successful in basketball,” he recalls thinking. “I know I can be successful bowling. Why am I going to sit here and waste my time doing this?” And so, five years before winning the 2018 American League MVP award, Mookie Betts signed up to take the ACT college admissions test. “I pretty much almost quit baseball,” he says.

The baseball gods had other plans. He had scheduled the test for early one Saturday morning, after a Friday-night game—not technically his last, but spiritually the end of the line. When that game went into extra innings, he decided to reschedule the ACT—the team was playing the next night, too, and he didn't want to tire himself out with hours of multiple-choice questions.
   11. jmurph Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:59 PM (#6008978)
If the discussion here is focused on the given excerpt in order to air the same grievances that have dominated every Betts thread for the last year, get over yourselves. Take it to Twitter, where petulance never sleeps.

Ha, no. I'm good, but thanks anyway.

And it turns out when teams make profoundly stupid decisions it tends to linger in the minds of their fans, who knew.
   12. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 03:59 PM (#6008979)
When he was in high school, his mom barred him from playing football—he was just too small, and she worried that he'd get hurt. (“He came out of high school weighing 150 [pounds],” Diana tells me. “So you can imagine that in ninth grade he probably weighed 100.”) Still, Betts wanted to hang out with his friends on the team, so he signed up to serve as the water boy. “I was the best,” he says now. “I was the GOAT of water boys. I took pride in it.” Players would toss the bottles around, leaving them for Betts to pick up. He never held this against them. “I didn't think, My man, don't throw it on the ground. Hand it to me. They're playing their sport. The last thing they really need to think about is throwing a water bottle or whatever.”
   13. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:06 PM (#6008981)
Does the article discuss whether the pandemic affected the negotiations?
No, but again, read TFA.
   14. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:08 PM (#6008983)

That aside, the above quote is almost the only part of the lengthy article that talks about negotiations with Boston. The whole article is about Betts, and he is awesome, so the article is great. If the discussion here is focused on the given excerpt in order to air the same grievances that have dominated every Betts thread for the last year, get over yourselves. Take it to Twitter, where petulance never sleeps. Or, y'know, read TFA and revel in more Mookie stuff.


You see, that to me is a terrible attitude. It's not up to us to decide who we root for? Just pick a team and go with whatever decision they make? They straight up traded the 2nd best player in the game SO THEY COULD DUMP SALARY!! The Sox organization deserves to hear just how badly they ###### up by not prioritizing keeping Betts on the team. They need to be reminded of that every ####### time they need to decide whether or not to extend a young player. Otherwise why have any vested interest in the actual players? Just root for the cheap salary and the uniform, right? See how tricksy the team can be to win the all-important WAR/$$ battle? Is it really all that surprising that the Rays can't develop a fan base? Does any fan really want their team run that way?
   15. Mike A Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:15 PM (#6008986)
And anyway, he says, perfect games are “cool to people that don't bowl.”
They're cool to me, and I bowl.

Granted, I'm far, far from Mookie's level.
   16. Jay Seaver Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:18 PM (#6008987)
Mookie would never have re-signed with Boston for the amount they were willing to pay him. That's always been true, and IIRC that's what those folks were saying.


Funny, I don't remember it being near that nuanced. There was a lot of "Mookie made up his mind to leave long ago", with the implication that even if Boston was competitive, the tie-breaker would work against them, which does not seem to be the case.

Oh, and I read the article yesterday. It's great, although I must admit that all the fashion photos (what with it being a GQ article and all) had me scratching my head, both because I'm too old/white/utilitarian where that stuff is concerned to get it and because it seems stiff and posed in a way that counters what makes Mookie so much fun.
   17. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:32 PM (#6008989)
So bowling scoring question ... suppose you're in a tourney and you both bowl 300. I assume there's some sort of tie-breaker but does that count to the score -- i.e. is it possible to bowl over 300?
   18. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:44 PM (#6008990)
IIRc, if two bowlers bowl 300, it's a tie.
   19. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: March 17, 2021 at 04:53 PM (#6008992)
So he bowls to the score! Like a true HOFer.
   20. villageidiom Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:08 PM (#6008996)
You see, that to me is a terrible attitude. It's not up to us to decide who we root for?
See, what I'm saying is, you've had dozens of threads to state that, and there's no need to make this thread about that when there's so much other good stuff here to talk about.
   21. Mike A Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:11 PM (#6008997)
It is a tie if both bowlers throw a 300.

In the PBA, I believe they would have a 1-ball roll-off to see who wins/advances. It's similar to a playoff in golf, your score would not change.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:14 PM (#6008999)
It's similar to a playoff in golf, your score would not change.


Or a tiebreaker in baseball to determine playoff HFA, where the teams remain tied in the standings, rather than a one-game playoff that unties tied teams.
   23. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:44 PM (#6009001)
there's so much other good stuff here to talk about.
Such as how to break ties in bowling!
   24. Walt Davis Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:50 PM (#6009003)
My question was not about how to break ties but whether the tie-breaking procedure would allow you to bowl over 300. This is important to whether Mookie can continue to get better forever! Personally I won't be impressed until he pitches a perfect game.
   25. Starring Bradley Scotchman as RMc Posted: March 17, 2021 at 05:54 PM (#6009005)
perfect games are “cool to people that don't bowl.”

Wouldn't folks who don't bowl be the very people who wouldn't care about perfect games at all, and thus would not think them cool?
   26. Mike A Posted: March 17, 2021 at 06:12 PM (#6009007)
Mookie could always shoot for the elusive 900 series, or 3 perfect games in a row. It's only been done by 36 people in history (sanctioned).

Incidentally, an 800 series is much, much harder than a perfect game. Yet, like a hole-in-one versus the much more difficult albatross (2 on a par 5), the perfect game sounds cooler.

Watching Mookie, I think he had the talent to go pro in bowling. Granted, he would have made like 400 million dollars less.

There was a time when bowlers were rock stars, though. The first million dollar sports endorsement actually went to bowler Don Carter in 1964. Nowadays, not so much.
   27. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 17, 2021 at 06:14 PM (#6009008)
Mookie would never have re-signed with Boston for the amount they were willing to pay him.
Players of Betts caliber are so rare that paying them fair market value seems like a no-brainer. Letting short-term financial considerations thwart that is very poor management, IMHO. Teams can make a heck of a lot of money on a 1-team, sure Hall of Famer, during their career, and long after. The Yankees are still making money off of Babe Ruth, which is also probably a sore subject for some here.
   28. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 17, 2021 at 06:21 PM (#6009011)
Yet, like a hole-in-one versus the much more difficult albatross (2 on a par 5), the perfect game sounds cooler.
Apropos of the recent talk of Bryson DeChambeau hitting so long that he could cut the dog leg on some par 5s and drive the green, is there a name for a 4-under par shot, besides a hole-in-one?

EDIT: Reluctantly doing my own research, I see “condor” is the favored term.
   29. Mike A Posted: March 17, 2021 at 06:34 PM (#6009012)
Apropos of the recent talk of Bryson DeChambeau hitting so long that he could cut the dog leg on some par 5s and drive the green, is there a name for a 4-under par shot, besides a hole-in-one?
Yes, as noted, it's a condor. There have been only been 6 verified in golf history. The latest condor was actually a 2 on a very rare par 6 hole, which feels like it shouldn't count.

My favorite golf bird term is the 'archaeopteryx,' a score of 15+ over par on a single hole. This was achieved by Tommy Armour in the 1927 Shawnee Open with a smooth 23.
   30. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 17, 2021 at 06:57 PM (#6009015)

Oh, and I read the article yesterday. It's great, although I must admit that all the fashion photos (what with it being a GQ article and all) had me scratching my head, both because I'm too old/white/utilitarian where that stuff is concerned to get it and because it seems stiff and posed in a way that counters what makes Mookie so much fun.


I thought it was sort of neat to see him dressed up and stylish, he's typically pretty dressed down, with a patchy sort of beard thing going on. I was definitely scratching my head of some of the prices though. Suits I get, but how does a shirt differentiate itself enough to be >$1000? It's 100% the brand/designer at that point, right? I mean even luxury cars typically do have better quality builds, or go faster, handle better, whatever, even if the $$$ for them scales disproportionately. You've got the shirt cut, and the fabric, really can't get past those at a certain point.
   31. Howie Menckel Posted: March 17, 2021 at 07:05 PM (#6009016)
"But once you can figure out how to say no, then it becomes easy as anything. Saying no the first time is the hardest thing.”


suddenly, I'm back in Catholic school, 40+ years ago....

(“He came out of high school weighing 150 [pounds],” Diana tells me. “So you can imagine that in ninth grade he probably weighed 100.”)

another flashback!
   32. Lowry Seasoning Salt Posted: March 18, 2021 at 12:09 AM (#6009050)
Dustin Pedroia is one who took the team friendly extensions. Even that hasn’t worked out great for the team, from 18-21 he’ll have made over 50 million despite not being healthy enough to contribute in any of those seasons. Red Sox got a huge bargain on the years up to 2017 though.


I think the often under-appreciated extension (and career) is Brett Gardner. NY locked him up for 4/$50M and got 15 bWAR for those years. All told so far, 13 years, $74M, 43 bWAR. Guessing it's unlikely this century has produced (m)any players who were a better full-career bargain for the team and yielded so much on-field value.
   33. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2021 at 01:47 AM (#6009057)
Well, according to our friends at b-r, Trout is at a mere $153 M for 75 WAR ... which is a slightly higher rate than Gardner but inflation or something. Granted, by the time his career is finished, that might have blown out to be as bad as 75 WAR for about $525 M which is still a meager $7/WAR.

Mike Trout's pretty good.
   34. Steve Balboni's Personal Trainer Posted: March 18, 2021 at 01:39 PM (#6009100)
I have been one of those Red Sox fans who (while upset that Mookie was gone), felt that it was unlikely that Betts was going to stay on the team after the 2020 season if he had not been traded. Betts makes it pretty clear in this piece that he would have stayed in Boston if they had offered the most money, so those who think people like me are being too easy on the management for not keeping Betts in Boston for his whole career are saying- I presume - that the Red Sox should have offered him the most money.

So when Betts took the 12/$365m deal soon after getting traded to Los Angeles, he must have been very confident that he would not get a bigger deal upon hitting free agency, right? Do you believe this? Betts was scheduled to make $27 million in 2020 for Boston. The AAV of his 12-year deal with LA is $30.5 - he makes $32.9 million each of the final two years of the deal (2031 and 2032). In 2020 dollars, that is less than $24.5 million.

If Betts really was purely about getting the best deal, he would not likely get all the way to his free agent season, and before even playing a game for his new team, lock into a deal that doesn't pay him much more over the next 12 years than what he was making in 2020.

Reports suggest the Red Sox offered him a 10/$300 extension at one point. Obviously, this is very similar AAV, but for two fewer years. It is very logical that the Red Sox would try to lock in a beloved franchise player for 10 years at that money - that report is very believable. And I could see why Betts would reject it - he could command more than $30m/year. In late 2019, Gerrit Cole signed a 9/$324 deal; In early 2020, Manny Machado signed a 10/$300 deal. Betts is better than these players, and he is also way more marketable.

So unless you believe Betts was so freaked out about the market in the post-COVID world for his services, then it doesn't seem like Betts went for the maximum money. Maybe he moved to Los Angeles, fell in love with it, and decided he would no longer seek the last possible dollar - but this piece makes it very clear that is not how he thinks, even to this day.

Of course, I wish he was in Boston for his whole career - he is a joy to watch, both incredibly likable and uniquely skilled. And if the Red Sox hadn't done some poor signings, like Eovaldi, Sandoval, etc., maybe that deal would have been 10/$330m, and he'd be in Boston today. But management obviously wanted to keep Betts. If they traded him, it was because they thought either a) he would not stay in Boston under any circumstances, or b) they were going to have to go a lot higher than $30m a year to keep him.

I believe they thought it was b, but something happened in 2020 (probably either COVID or falling in love with LA) that causes Betts to pull back from the "I'm getting every last dollar I can" position.

   35. Nasty Nate Posted: March 18, 2021 at 02:19 PM (#6009110)
and there's no need to make this thread about that when there's so much other good stuff here to talk about.
For the second time in 2 years, Mookie has been the best player on the best team. Not cheapo "best" teams either: the '18 Sox were 119-57, and the Dodgers were 56-22. His most recent at-bat was a HR in a World Series-clinching game. To be blunt, he's bigger than just his relationship to Sox front office failures. He's a big deal.
   36. Darren Posted: March 18, 2021 at 03:37 PM (#6009117)
I came here to rehash all of the arguments we've been having for a year now, but VI is right. What's the point? This is a really nice article about a pretty cool guy. I thought he looked great with the shaved head/beard combo, and decked out in cool suits.

On the bowling, does anyone else worry that he's putting a lot of stress on his wrist and shoulder by bowling so much at such a competitive level? I guess it has probably helped him to strengthen his wrists up to this point, but maybe it catches up to him in his 30s?

   37. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2021 at 04:48 PM (#6009123)
So unless you believe Betts was so freaked out about the market in the post-COVID world for his services

I think being "freaked out" would have been the only rational response. Turning down a guaranteed $365 even with heaps of deferment at a time when virtually no revenue was being generated, there were no vaccines, cities/states/countries were going in and out of lockdowns, a likely winter surge was on the horizon ... and the CBA is about to expire. That's when you don't even think about quibbling over an extra 10%.
   38. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 18, 2021 at 04:49 PM (#6009124)
On the bowling, does anyone else worry that he's putting a lot of stress on his wrist and shoulder by bowling so much at such a competitive level?
I don’t claim to follow the sport, but don’t recall ever hearing much about bowling injuries.
   39. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 18, 2021 at 05:05 PM (#6009125)
On the bowling, does anyone else worry that he's putting a lot of stress on his wrist and shoulder by bowling so much at such a competitive level?


Nah, he's got that small guy, super strong wrist thing going like Aaron. When he turns on one with those strong wrists, they stay hit. Aren't like 95% of his homers to LF or left-centre? When he gets locked in, he throws in one of those 3 homers games, which is super fun.
   40. Walt Davis Posted: March 18, 2021 at 06:44 PM (#6009135)
93 of 155 to LF, another 37 to LCF (per b-r's HR log) ... one uncategorized probably because, just before it, with a 9-2 lead, Dave Roberts actually challenged (successfully) an inning-ending DP and everybody had stopped paying attention. I know they are rare but mildly surprised he hasn't had a ITPHR yet. So that's another way he can get better.
   41. Ziggy: social distancing since 1980 Posted: March 18, 2021 at 07:16 PM (#6009139)
Does he get special dispensation to bowl? Usually player contracts prohibit them from playing so much as pogs.
   42. Darren Posted: March 20, 2021 at 08:53 PM (#6009385)
I remember there was a big thing about basketball back when Aaron Boone got hurt but not much since.
   43. Rally Posted: March 22, 2021 at 01:59 PM (#6009585)
I didn’t realize Mookie already holds the record for 3 HR games with 6. Tied with Mize and Sosa. And only one of those games was against the Orioles, I would have guessed 2 or 3.
   44. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: March 22, 2021 at 02:14 PM (#6009590)
I remember there was a big thing about basketball back when Aaron Boone got hurt but not much since.


Because of Jeff ####### Kent MLB players can't even wash their own trucks anymore.
   45. Ron J Posted: March 22, 2021 at 02:54 PM (#6009601)
#44 And thanks to Glenallen Hill they aren't allowed to have imaginary spiders.
   46. sunday silence (again) Posted: March 22, 2021 at 05:28 PM (#6009626)
Bobby Tolan says "hello."
   47. Howie Menckel Posted: March 22, 2021 at 07:47 PM (#6009639)
Clint Barmes is at fault for why players can't lug around packages of venison anymore, which is a damn shame.
   48. Ron J Posted: March 22, 2021 at 08:12 PM (#6009645)
I've put a fair amount of time into OOTP and have had a fair number of accidental handgun injuries. I'm sure it's based on real life things but I can't think of any players who accidentally shot themselves.

Speaking of OOTP (yeah I know nobody cares about your OOTP), oddest "injury" started a playthrough with the 1997 Orioles. Lost Mike Mussina to "decided to join the Peace Corps"
   49. Mike A Posted: March 22, 2021 at 09:04 PM (#6009650)
Pretty much everyone I know who bowls regularly has had an injury. I mean, most of the time it's pretty minor - a tweaked elbow, sprained wrist, sore knee, etc.

So even though Mookie is in better shape than the vast, vast, vast majority of bowlers...he's throwing a 15-pound object over and over again in a somewhat awkward motion, so there's still a chance he gets hurt. But you could say that about a lot of non-baseball activities. I am curious if bowling was worked into the contract at all. I couldn't find anything on it.
   50. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 22, 2021 at 09:33 PM (#6009654)
Clint Barmes is at fault for why players can't lug around packages of venison anymore, which is a damn shame.
And thanks to Nick Johnson, they can never leave their houses and have to wear head-to-toe Nerf at all times.
   51. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 22, 2021 at 11:43 PM (#6009665)
There was a time when bowlers were rock stars, though.

I'm not yet 50, and I remember when bowling was one of the highlights of the afternoon broadcasts of ABC Wide World of Sports.
   52. SoSH U at work Posted: March 23, 2021 at 01:02 AM (#6009671)
I'm not yet 50, and I remember when bowling was one of the highlights of the afternoon broadcasts of ABC Wide World of Sports.


Chris Schenkel could make any sport worth watching.
   53. Rally Posted: March 23, 2021 at 07:56 AM (#6009678)
Ron,

The most recent OOTP sudden retirement was a 25 year old reliever who donated a kidney to his cousin. A few years ago a player on my team retired because he wanted to dedicate his life to his church, the church of Satan. I may have slightly edited that one. He was a 17 game winner, and the retirement came a few weeks before the start of the playoffs.

Another player broke his arm while arm-wrestling with a wookiee.
   54. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 23, 2021 at 09:24 AM (#6009682)
I've put a fair amount of time into OOTP and have had a fair number of accidental handgun injuries. I'm sure it's based on real life things but I can't think of any players who accidentally shot themselves.

Plaxico Burress is the obvious guy that comes to mind. NFL, of course. But the term "Glock leg" exists for a reason.
   55. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 23, 2021 at 02:42 PM (#6009725)
Anyone else see the article about the massive "Thank you Red Sox" billboard an LA fan put up outside of Fenway?

That's just mean.
   56. Jose Is An Absurd Balladeer Posted: March 23, 2021 at 03:01 PM (#6009729)
I found it rather nice. The Sox helped their buddies in LA finally win a title. I always liked the Dodgers. It's not like the Dodgers are some rival of the Sox.
   57. Jay Seaver Posted: March 23, 2021 at 03:24 PM (#6009734)
I'll probably sigh deeply and sadly every time I walk past it (although it may not be that often, since it appears to face away from the path I walk from Kenmore to Gate E), but, honest, I'll be doing that when the PA announcer mentions starting right fielder Hunter Renfroe or the like.

I'd like it more if I knew it faced whatever office John Henry or Chaim Bloom occupies.

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