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Baseball Primer Newsblog — The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand Tuesday, September 13, 2011HardballTalk: Gleeman at the movies: “Moneyball” reviewA Gleebert-length review.
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Posted: September 13, 2011 at 04:43 PM | 50 comment(s)
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1. Rally Posted: September 13, 2011 at 06:42 PM (#3923595)In addition, Clayton is listed at 6'0, 175, which is probably pretty close to what he was most of his playing career, never a big guy. Maybe Clayton has bulked up since his career ended, but he's playing a guy who was seriously roided up back in 2002.
The realism of the baseball scenes isn't the greatest, but it's also not particularly consequential - not very much of the movie involves newly shot baseball scenes.
He also probably looks more like a ML infielder than a 37-year old Tejada.
Summary: It will probably make Primates happy. Whether or not you hate the movie will probably depend on what you think of Billy Beane's daughter. It's one of the ten best baseball movies ever.
I remember attending a game in KC back during the Ordaz Era (that's what we call the early 2000's here in KC) - and someone acutally had a sign at the game that said "Luis is Ordazzling"
Okay, this is awesome, that they'd go back and do something like that.
Out of curiosity, what are your other nine?
You must have missed the part in that other thread where it clearly states IT IS NOT A BASEBALL MOVIE!!!11!! What must a director do to get this point across?
I think Paul didn't want his name used.
Eight Men Out, Bull Durham, League of Their Own, Field of Dreams, Major League
After that I'd be splitting hairs depending on mood - Bad News Bears, Damn Yankees, The Rookie, Angels in the Outfield, everything else I'm meh or less on.
After "Grease," anything is possible.
Brand to Johnny Damon while touring the Coliseum after Damon was traded from Kansas City: "This is a picture of Mr. Beane with Nancy Reagan, taken when she was first lady of the nation, not California. Don't touch that"
PSH is manager Art Howe. Jonah Hill is "Paul Brand."
Billy Beane: Paul, get me those stat sheets up for our conference call with Kenny Williams.
Paul Brand: Sure thing Mr. Beane. [phone rings] Hello? Well I would love to sell you some weed, Jeremy, but I'm at my ####### job right now. Obviously, because you called me at work, you know that I'm at my place of *work,* so I can't just leave here and sell you some weed. I can sell you some weed when I'm done.
IMO it's pretty hard to come up with ten good baseball movies. Still, Angels in the Outfield but not Pride of the Yankees?
(I'm no Yankee fan, but I'm still a sucker for PotY.)
Paul Brand: I'm over here with my laptop, isolated and alone, looking at this terrible baseball-reference team page, and I have to look over at that. That looks like the most fun I've ever seen in my entire life, and it's B.S. - excuse my language. I'm just saying that I cut and paste; I'm like an accountant. Look, we all know sabermetrics is a joke—no offense—it's just that everyone uses payroll disparity as an excuse, and it's bullshit—and I'm sorry. I'm not putting down your profession, but it's just the way I feel. I don't want to sit here, all by myself, re-sorting this shitty roster on Excel—no offense—and I just think that why the hell do we have Terrence Long. When is Terrence Long going to win anything? Is he going to be an MVP? No. There's three weeks left 'til we lost in the playoffs, give me a ######' break! I'm sorry for cursing.
A week ago, I had nothing. Now I'm a major league first baseman, I'm gonna make 32 bucks tonight. I owe Mr. Beane everything I have. Which after tonight will be 39 bucks.
Yes.
I will be hearing this, in Jonah Hill's voice, all day now.
This is the most disappointing-sounding part to me. I am so tired of this cliché...
It's not. He praised Hill and explicitly said that he wasn't the reason; it was the script.
IMHO, the best one since Bull Durham. Funnier too. Pitt will probably receive an Oscar nomination.
EDIT: And like "The Blind Side," you don't have to be a sports fan to enjoy this film. Of course, Joe Morgan will stay away. (He doesn't watch movies written, produced, and directed by Billy Beane.)
East coast bias?
Haha, PSH's character in The Big Lebowski was named "Brandt" and said something nearly identical to The Dude. Dropping Johnny Damon in for Jeff Bridges is a nice touch.
Reasons it won't matter if you camp out
1) You already don't bathe
2) You have no social life to miss while in line
3) You will be able to talk to fellow linesitters in acronyms
4) You already own the latest and greatest electronic stuff to keep you occupied
5) Your mom will be happy to have you out of the basement for a few days.
I never once thought this would work as a movie until I saw the trailer. Now I'm moderately excited to go see it.
Not as excited as I am to go watch Real Steel and laugh for 2 hours. Movies like that make me wish I still smoked pot. That is just the type of movie I used to get baked and go watch
New York, obviously.
Redford was pushing 50 when he did THE NATURAL (Hobbs certainly wasn't supposed to be THAT old), so there's precedent.
Yes he did.
I saw it with a woman I was dating. It wasn't a deal breaker that she thought it was a good film, but damn, it was close. To anyone who would like me to cede the point, yes, Sandra looked lovely. I enjoy many of her films.
And only 2 years younger than his manager, Wilford Brimley. Brimley's only 77, but has looked 70 since he was 40.
Alas it's not clear these are mutually exclusive categories.
Similar to James Gammon in Major League; he was less than a decade older than Berenger but I would have guessed the age difference was 20 years or more.
Speaking of The Natural, it was on the tube here in Mexico last night, but with the title El mejor (The Best). Just doesn't have the same ring to it.
I saw a poster for The Hangover 2 in Paris, except it was titled "Very Bad Trip 2".
In Mexico, it was ¿Qué paso ayer? (What happened yesterday?), which was odd, since "hangover" translates easily.
In other news, Keith Law absolutely crushed the Moneyball movie last night on Twitter and his personal (i.e., non-ESPN) blog. Like the Astros sale, opinions are all over the map on this movie.
He complains that watching a guy talk on the phone swinging a deal makes for a boring scene (to which I agree)
Then later complains that a GM flying half-way across the country to discuss a trade for a reliever with another GM face to face is unrealistic (also agreed)
But it's a movie, you're going to have to make some kind of compromise there.
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According to a Jerry Crasnick column on espn.com last fall,
"Moneyball" isn't Clayton's first foray into cinema. In the 2002 Disney film "The Rookie," which chronicles pitcher Jim Morris' improbable journey from Texas high school science teacher to Tampa Bay Devil Rays reliever, Texas shortstop Royce Clayton strikes out in a climactic scene at the end of the movie. The Internet Movie Database says that Clayton played himself in an uncredited role. In reality, Clayton spent some time on the set, but was portrayed by an actor whose name he can't recall.
"He took some of the worst hacks I've ever seen," Clayton said. "I was like, 'How hard would it have been to find somebody who had actually swung a bat before?'"
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